This reminds me of a very interesting excerpt I read recently:
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly. For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Beston 1888-1968
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Roger B wrote:
dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely... :)
Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely... :)
Yeah, but I disagree with that. They are our younger brothers who have not completed the journey from rocks to human beings.
Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: falconti@together.net
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 23:43:31 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
This reminds me of a very interesting excerpt I read recently:
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly. For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Beston 1888-1968
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , Roger B wrote:
Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: falconti@together.net
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 23:43:31 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
This reminds me of a very interesting excerpt I read recently:
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly. For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Beston 1888-1968
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , Roger B wrote:
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Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely... :)
And what consequences for either of these positions?
It seems the real question is how, we humans, respect other life forms.
The problem has been in our modern, western world a high level of hubris that
seems to think everything in life revolves around us. Cultures who had different
spiritual/philosophical positions became viewed as less than human or ignorant,
or quaint, or brain deficient.
t
From: Roger B
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:00 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
Yeah, but I disagree with that. They are our younger brothers who have not completed the journey from rocks to human beings.
Roger
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: falconti@together.net
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 23:43:31 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
This reminds me of a very interesting excerpt I read recently:
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly. For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Beston 1888-1968
--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, Roger B wrote:
It seems the real question is how, we humans, respect other life forms.
The problem has been in our modern, western world a high level of hubris that
seems to think everything in life revolves around us. Cultures who had different
spiritual/philosophical positions became viewed as less than human or ignorant,
or quaint, or brain deficient.
t
From: Roger B
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:00 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
Yeah, but I disagree with that. They are our younger brothers who have not completed the journey from rocks to human beings.
Roger
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: falconti@together.net
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 23:43:31 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
This reminds me of a very interesting excerpt I read recently:
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly. For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Beston 1888-1968
--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, Roger B wrote:
Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely... :)
I am sure that I did not fully describe my position. There is only one Being in Reality, and it is the Universal Soul. All beings are One. I am my dog.
I particularly like when the atheists try to insult and irritate believers by saying things like "dog bless me" or "oh my dog". And I say to myself, "yes". I am not my brother's keeper. I am my brother, and my "enemy", and the insect that I helped outside several weeks ago.
By holding this attitude, it does wonders for resentments and anger and other harmful feelings. They simply evaporate. I am my enemy, and I did to my "enemy" what he/she is doing to me now, to the other "me" in another body. And it is time to stop the conflict at least within my own mind by recognizing the FACT that I am doing it to my SELF.
Roger
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: tamarque@earthlink.net
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 05:04:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
And what consequences for either of these positions?
It seems the real question is how, we humans, respect other life forms.
The problem has been in our modern, western world a high level of hubris that
seems to think everything in life revolves around us. Cultures who had different
spiritual/philosophical positions became viewed as less than human or ignorant,
or quaint, or brain deficient.
t
From: Roger B
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:00 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
Yeah, but I disagree with that. They are our younger brothers who have not completed the journey from rocks to human beings.
Roger
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: falconti@together.net
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 23:43:31 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
This reminds me of a very interesting excerpt I read recently:
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly. For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Beston 1888-1968
--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, Roger B wrote:
I particularly like when the atheists try to insult and irritate believers by saying things like "dog bless me" or "oh my dog". And I say to myself, "yes". I am not my brother's keeper. I am my brother, and my "enemy", and the insect that I helped outside several weeks ago.
By holding this attitude, it does wonders for resentments and anger and other harmful feelings. They simply evaporate. I am my enemy, and I did to my "enemy" what he/she is doing to me now, to the other "me" in another body. And it is time to stop the conflict at least within my own mind by recognizing the FACT that I am doing it to my SELF.
Roger
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: tamarque@earthlink.net
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 05:04:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
And what consequences for either of these positions?
It seems the real question is how, we humans, respect other life forms.
The problem has been in our modern, western world a high level of hubris that
seems to think everything in life revolves around us. Cultures who had different
spiritual/philosophical positions became viewed as less than human or ignorant,
or quaint, or brain deficient.
t
From: Roger B
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:00 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
Yeah, but I disagree with that. They are our younger brothers who have not completed the journey from rocks to human beings.
Roger
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: falconti@together.net
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 23:43:31 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: dogs and homeopathic philosophy - slightly OT, but not entirely...
This reminds me of a very interesting excerpt I read recently:
"We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals…
We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves.
And therein we err and err greatly. For the animal shall not be measured by man.
In a world older and more complete than ours, they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear.
They are not brethren; they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."
Henry Beston 1888-1968
--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, Roger B wrote: