proving - Sepia

[jtikari]

With a 200 potency - never
I mean there will never be a proving with that potency (provided the labelled potency is correct)
Dr. Jeff Tikari

[Shannon Nelson]

What is your basis for saying this?

Giving a remedy to excess is exactly the way that provings are done; there are many probings, of many remedies, using 200c potency. Why do you think sepia would be any different?

Shannon

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Evidence please Jeff that one cannot prove a remedy at 200C!
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Subject: [Minutus] proving - Sepia
With a 200 potency - never

I mean there will never be a proving with that potency (provided the labelled potency is correct)
Dr. Jeff Tikari

[Ellen Madono]

Hi,

I give 30c daily, but I only do this when I have the Homeopathic Facial Analysis (see VCCH.org). Then I know there will be no provings. I could go to 200c, but this is unnecessary as a beginning.
In any case, I always keep careful track of the patient for the first week. 6c daily will prove. Have never tried 200c. Sounds too strong for an unknown remedy. You never really knows until the patient really uses the remedy.

I might do daily with a 6c, but I would be expecting proving symptoms and watching carefully. 200c is too strong without very good confirmatory analysis like Homeopathic Facial Analysis.
Flu, fever and previous symptoms coming up early in the remedy exposure is good (according to Vithoulkas. See his book Levels of Heath). It proves that the remedy is working. But the patient condition has to improve or some symptoms have to be missing from proving symptoms.

If this patient is being give 200c daily, she should call her homeopath and aggressively ask her to check the symptoms that she is experiencing. The homeopath shoud want to know those symptoms because she wants to differentiate between useful proving symptoms, aggravations and wrong remedy. If the homeopath takes no interest, change homeopaths.
Best,
Ellen Madono

[Sheri Nakken]

I would suggest that HFA is only an extra tool and not foolproof to prevent provings.
Sheri

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[Shannon Nelson]

Important points are not only potency, but also repetition and size of dose.

For any sort of repetition, you would need to be sure you know how to evaluate whether the remedy is acting well. It's the person's *response to the remedy* that determines re-dosing, if any. It's essential to know what reactions mean "give more", and which ones mean "stop" or "give less".

In treating an acute, this isn't usually such an issue (provided not an extremely weak person and not an extremely severe illness), but in treating chronic issues (which use of sepia suggests?), these things become extremely important to understand, and really chronic matters shouldn't be treated without the appropriate training or guidance. Want to say what you're working on?

Shannon