repeating doses

[Julie Armour]

Hello,
I am a brand new member, but I have been interested in homeopathy for a long time. I have a question about when to repeat a dose. If there is some improvement, but it doesn't last, when and how often do you think a dose should be repeated. Should it be given in a higher dose if after say three doses has a positive effect, but not long lasting one?
thanks,
Julie

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Julie
Welcome to both homeopathy and Minutus.
A very good question that needs detailed consideration of the case being treated and then both the remedy choice and its potency.
The answer depends very much on the course of treatment and what is happening.
In acute cases, you can repeat the remedy within few minutes.

If the remedy and potency is correct, you would expect a reaction quickly.
For example, a few days ago I had a case of little girl of 8 with tonsillitis, pain on swallowing and on drinking and no appetite and going hot and cold. Merc 30 worked within 10 minutes - so a girl who was lying on a settee feeling sorry for herself got up and started to take part in games. She went on to make a full recovery. No need for repeating.
On another occasion with a patient suffering from pneumonia, Ant-t 200C in water had done nothing after 5 minutes. Here we had urgency as patient had a very high pulse and breathing rates. So it was plussed and repeated - again nothing after 5 minutes so plussed again and this time within 1 minute the patient reported that the post nasal flow that had caused all the problems of severe and painful cough and now the lung problems was stopped. As if someone had turned a tap off.

He then slept for a few hours and was on the road to recovery.

(Plussing is where the remedy is added to small quantity of water and is succussed prior to each dose.)

Kent's advice is not to repeat the same dose - so by plussing we increase the potency slightly.
Again in acute cases - and as you say the remedy may last only for a short while so we need to question the choice of remedy and potency. If you are sure of the remedy choice - as I was with the Ant-t case - then increase the potency and for example go from a 30C to a 200C and check to see what happens. If it still does not last long, recheck your remedy.
If one is treating a chronic case, then one must question not only the choice of remedy and it potency but also whether anything is anti-doting the remedy. Kent advises as to never leave a remedy that has done good. So if you are getting good results but it does not last long, you probably need to go into a higher potency and check anti-doting.
Permit me to also give an analogy from a car. If the car's engine is not tuned correctly or if it has 'flooded', it may not start easily.

So we may need to crank the starter repeatedly. But when it starts, it may not run well and be very uneven. But we would immediately stop cranking the starter (continuation would damage the starter motor and the engine) as soon as there is a sign of life in the engine. We then wait until the engine either picks up and clears itself or stops again where we go back to cranking the engine.

The lesson is therefore NOT to repeat the remedy if you see signs of its action in the patient.
I am sure colleagues will add to this and you will have good guidance.
Kind regards

Soroush
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Subject: [Minutus] repeating doses
Hello,

I am a brand new member, but I have been interested in homeopathy for a long time. I have a question about when to repeat a dose. If there is some improvement, but it doesn't last, when and how often do you think a dose should be repeated. Should it be given in a higher dose if after say three doses has a positive effect, but not long lasting one?

thanks,

Julie

[healthinfo6]

This may be TMI for you right now but worth reading.
http://www.simillimum.com/education/lit ... rticle.php
Are you treating acute, chronic condition?

Are you taking a C or X dry pill dose vs liquid LM?
Your problem sounds like you are repeating the SAME dry dose without upping the potency by succussion, this is the older 4th Organon type prescribing of wait and watch with dry dose repetition.
Our founder and genius, Hahnemann, discovered that our vital force doesn't react well to repeating unchanged same doses and wrote in his 5th Organon to NOT use repated dry doses but take the C pills and prepare in water. This is called the SPLIT DOSE method. Each dose taken is shaken, succussed just before use. You can then take a new succussed dose each time you feel it is wearing off.
This also follows Hahnemann's enlightenment that taking smaller doses is gentler and works better than larger. By preparing 1, 2 or 3 C dry pills in water, you are able to take the equivalent of ONE dry dose spread over multiple doses.
Since you don't mention having aggravations of your same condition nor other new symptoms, it sounds like you may have a good remedy just need to take it differently.
For C split dose prep from a C dry pill, use these instructions:
Preparing and Administering the Medicinal Solution
in
http://www.simillimum.com/education/lit ... icle02.php
To evaluate if you have aggravations or new unrelated symptoms and if you are taking too much remedy or the wrong remedy, read
http://www.simillimum.com/education/lit ... icle03.php
Susan

[Julie Armour]

I was treating tennis elbow that I got after too much garden work. It persisted even a month later. So I guess it was an acute problem at least at first. I should have used a remedy right away, but I didn't. Then I tried Bryonia 30C. I never use the dry doses, only the water ones. I tapped the prepared solution 10 times and then took a teaspoon. There was some improvement right away, but then a few hours later the elbow was very sore again. I repeated this same dose with the 10 taps the next day, and then two days later. Each time there was some improvement, but then it went away. However, today it seems better. I haven't taken the remedy today at all. Should I just wait?
Thanks so much,
Julie

[Julie Armour]

This article is not too much info for me. I have studied this before. I know how to prepare the solutions and do the succussions, but I appreciate the article. I will review it. I am also very glad to see that this group practices the methods of Hahnemann in his 5th Organon.
Thanks again,
Julie

[Sheri Nakken]

a few of us do
Sheri

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[Rochelle]

Dr Subarta Banerjea doses 1 teaspoon every hour for 10 doses for something like this – stirring between each dose. He tells patients to make the solution up in a water bottle and shake and sip rather than mess around with teaspoons. You should have repeated your dose when the elbow started to get sore again rather than wait until the next day. The soreness again was an indication that you needed another dose.
Rochelle Marsden MSc, RSHom, MNWCH, AAMET

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Julie Armour
I was treating tennis elbow that I got after too much garden work. It persisted even a month later. So I guess it was an acute problem at least at first. I should have used a remedy right away, but I didn't. Then I tried Bryonia 30C. I never use the dry doses, only the water ones. I tapped the prepared solution 10 times and then took a teaspoon. There was some improvement right away, but then a few hours later the elbow was very sore again. I repeated this same dose with the 10 taps the next day, and then two days later. Each time there was some improvement, but then it went away. However, today it seems better. I haven't taken the remedy today at all. Should I just wait?

Thanks so much,

Julie

[Julie Armour]

Okay, thanks.
Julie

[Ellen Madono]

Hi Julie,

Often the thin sheets of connective tissues are affected by elbow strain. These tissues have poor blood flow around them and they take a long time to heal. If it really hurts at the joint and not in the muscle, and you really don't want to put any strain on it, I would use Rhuta 30c - 6c. 30c once and day and see what happens with the pain in a week. Adjust the frequency of the dosing depending on the affect. If you felt really irritated by the injury, Rhuta is like that, so is Bryonia but it not so commonly used for connective tissue damage.

Best,
Ellen Madono

[Ellen Madono]

The remedy choice and the expectations of how fast the strain should cure are the problem not the dosing method. Put your remedy in a small bottle or jar and make sure you strike it hard against you palm before taking it.