Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
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Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
That's a decent A1C. I'm on Metformin 2550mg, Byetta injection, Apidra and Lantus insulins and my A1C was recently 11.5 which is average blood glucose of 270. And that's mostly on a NO carb diet ketogenic diet after adding insulin but with occasional carb cheating.
Unfortunately, my diabetes is clearly inherited and more difficult to control as age advances, with relatives who died early 60 and 70s from diabetes complications. Mine began in pre-disease state since around age 6 or 7. It starts with hypoglycemia then at the genetically predetermined age, usually mid 40's goes full blown disease.
Homeopathically, this is viewed as progression of a miasm. Currently I take Tuberculinum LM5, soon LM6, upto 3 teaspoons/day, a nosode remedy indicated for the Tubercular miasm which is considered the main miasm where diabetes has morphed from, which is helping with some diabetes symptoms, on occasion lowering blood sugar dramatically, but only if I stay very strict and not eat most carbs. This is part of miasmatic constitutional treatment which also includes alternating with an antipsoric constitutional remedy, currently on LM18, which complements the Tub, which hopefully helps regress if not fully cure the condition and is not meant for immediate short term blood sugar relief. I haven't found homeopathic remedies like Syzygium Jambolanum helpful, it is used to reduce blood sugar in urine and it never worked for me, but I only used Mother Tincture MT which is similar to using it as an herbal. In addition, the Tub is useful with bipolar and keeps that inherited disease in check allowing me to remain off of lithium, which I took for 35 years.
You truly experience the miracle that is classical homeopathy by following what has become known as Hahnemann's Advanced Methods by taking your antipsoric constitutional and antimiasmatic nosode remedies. Getting the hang of how often and how much to take of each takes some effort. You can experience great aggravations along with wonderful ameliorations.
Not much I could do to stop becoming diabetic, I was already seeing a homeopath and since then have seen many more.
There are various reasons you are type 2, some are inherited, some are diet, some are organ weaknesses. My weakness is liver and the liver is what Metformin drug works on, reducing glucose production in the liver. The liver controls sugar to fat conversion and vice versa and one reason diabetes is increasing greatly and at earlier ages worldwide may be the increase of cheaper/fast food consumed made with chemicals, preservatives, etc. The liver performs detox functions and the more foods with chemical ingredients, the more it has to work along with chemical exposure all around us. If you have a P450 cytochrome deficiency, which is one detox pathway in liver, you can even have more problems eating non-natural foods with chemicals and preservatives. If I skip a couple of Met doses, blood sugar zooms to 350+. It also helps with insulin resistance, which some, not all diabetics have, also considered genetic, where cells aren't using insulin properly or "letting it in" thus lack of energy, tiredness results. Also non-carb items, like Splenda/Sucralose, used for sugar substitution at times will raise my blood sugar even though it is not a carb but has some negative effect on the liver.
Finding what foods, not necessary only carbs, that affect your blood sugar, is helpful. Here, I've used the D'Adamo blood typing diet to identfiy items that may overall affect blood sugar levels. Also, eating more natural vs refined carbs, using glycemic index values of foods to eat those lower vs.higher, meaning how much a food will spike blood sugar. Rice cakes are notorious as higher glycemic while equivalent amount of carb as vegetables are less so. Fruit, which has fructose form of sugar, I've found won' t raise my blood sugar as much as glucose because fructose is metabolized differently than glucose and sucrose, possibly bypassing the liver. It will raise triglycerides if you have insulin resistance. I've found drinking liquid protein mixes better than eating for blood sugar control and generally eating smaller portions not large meals also better even with no carb foods. So, while insulin injection dosage is based on how much carbs you are about to eat, even eating fats/proteins in large amounts at one sitting can raise blood sugar.
I have Glimepiride drug but it is designed to increase insulin production and I felt that was counter productive for me and possibly harmful forcing the pancreas to produce more insulin when I already produce a-lot of it.
Byetta drug which is very expensive in USA, $400/month w/o insurance, is a synthetic form of the Gila heliomonster saliva which regulates glucose and other homeostatis functions. While it is used to regulate pancreas insulin release and stomach emptying, I've found it enhances energy and diabetes is also a form of mitochondrial disease which is where energy production happens I recently got a prescription for Bydureon, a once a week form of Byetta. I've yet to try it because I'm leery that I'll have too much energy during the week, since with daily Byetta I can control this as it is twice a day injection and I find needing to skip a dose here and there.
There is a homeopathic remedy made from same Gila saliva but I don't know if it would have same effects as the drug. Would be like taking homeopathic insulin, Insulinum, instead of insulin, haven't heard that being done or if it works.
If you are in India, you may be eating more higher refined carbs in traditional dishes and may want to eliminate those.
Susan
Unfortunately, my diabetes is clearly inherited and more difficult to control as age advances, with relatives who died early 60 and 70s from diabetes complications. Mine began in pre-disease state since around age 6 or 7. It starts with hypoglycemia then at the genetically predetermined age, usually mid 40's goes full blown disease.
Homeopathically, this is viewed as progression of a miasm. Currently I take Tuberculinum LM5, soon LM6, upto 3 teaspoons/day, a nosode remedy indicated for the Tubercular miasm which is considered the main miasm where diabetes has morphed from, which is helping with some diabetes symptoms, on occasion lowering blood sugar dramatically, but only if I stay very strict and not eat most carbs. This is part of miasmatic constitutional treatment which also includes alternating with an antipsoric constitutional remedy, currently on LM18, which complements the Tub, which hopefully helps regress if not fully cure the condition and is not meant for immediate short term blood sugar relief. I haven't found homeopathic remedies like Syzygium Jambolanum helpful, it is used to reduce blood sugar in urine and it never worked for me, but I only used Mother Tincture MT which is similar to using it as an herbal. In addition, the Tub is useful with bipolar and keeps that inherited disease in check allowing me to remain off of lithium, which I took for 35 years.
You truly experience the miracle that is classical homeopathy by following what has become known as Hahnemann's Advanced Methods by taking your antipsoric constitutional and antimiasmatic nosode remedies. Getting the hang of how often and how much to take of each takes some effort. You can experience great aggravations along with wonderful ameliorations.
Not much I could do to stop becoming diabetic, I was already seeing a homeopath and since then have seen many more.
There are various reasons you are type 2, some are inherited, some are diet, some are organ weaknesses. My weakness is liver and the liver is what Metformin drug works on, reducing glucose production in the liver. The liver controls sugar to fat conversion and vice versa and one reason diabetes is increasing greatly and at earlier ages worldwide may be the increase of cheaper/fast food consumed made with chemicals, preservatives, etc. The liver performs detox functions and the more foods with chemical ingredients, the more it has to work along with chemical exposure all around us. If you have a P450 cytochrome deficiency, which is one detox pathway in liver, you can even have more problems eating non-natural foods with chemicals and preservatives. If I skip a couple of Met doses, blood sugar zooms to 350+. It also helps with insulin resistance, which some, not all diabetics have, also considered genetic, where cells aren't using insulin properly or "letting it in" thus lack of energy, tiredness results. Also non-carb items, like Splenda/Sucralose, used for sugar substitution at times will raise my blood sugar even though it is not a carb but has some negative effect on the liver.
Finding what foods, not necessary only carbs, that affect your blood sugar, is helpful. Here, I've used the D'Adamo blood typing diet to identfiy items that may overall affect blood sugar levels. Also, eating more natural vs refined carbs, using glycemic index values of foods to eat those lower vs.higher, meaning how much a food will spike blood sugar. Rice cakes are notorious as higher glycemic while equivalent amount of carb as vegetables are less so. Fruit, which has fructose form of sugar, I've found won' t raise my blood sugar as much as glucose because fructose is metabolized differently than glucose and sucrose, possibly bypassing the liver. It will raise triglycerides if you have insulin resistance. I've found drinking liquid protein mixes better than eating for blood sugar control and generally eating smaller portions not large meals also better even with no carb foods. So, while insulin injection dosage is based on how much carbs you are about to eat, even eating fats/proteins in large amounts at one sitting can raise blood sugar.
I have Glimepiride drug but it is designed to increase insulin production and I felt that was counter productive for me and possibly harmful forcing the pancreas to produce more insulin when I already produce a-lot of it.
Byetta drug which is very expensive in USA, $400/month w/o insurance, is a synthetic form of the Gila heliomonster saliva which regulates glucose and other homeostatis functions. While it is used to regulate pancreas insulin release and stomach emptying, I've found it enhances energy and diabetes is also a form of mitochondrial disease which is where energy production happens I recently got a prescription for Bydureon, a once a week form of Byetta. I've yet to try it because I'm leery that I'll have too much energy during the week, since with daily Byetta I can control this as it is twice a day injection and I find needing to skip a dose here and there.
There is a homeopathic remedy made from same Gila saliva but I don't know if it would have same effects as the drug. Would be like taking homeopathic insulin, Insulinum, instead of insulin, haven't heard that being done or if it works.
If you are in India, you may be eating more higher refined carbs in traditional dishes and may want to eliminate those.
Susan
Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Hi Rochelle. How about Chromium Cruciferate by Ecological Formulas.
J.H.
In a message dated 2/12/2013 11:27:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, rochellemarsden@talktalk.net writes:
J.H.
In a message dated 2/12/2013 11:27:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, rochellemarsden@talktalk.net writes:
Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Because the increased D3 intake will cause more calcium to be metabalised
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence
Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Is that why I have put on weight !!! 
Rochelle
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Because the increased D3 intake will cause more calcium to be metabalised
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence

Rochelle
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Because the increased D3 intake will cause more calcium to be metabalised
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence
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Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
are you saying your bones are heavier? or you have spread your girth?
t
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Is that why I have put on weight !!!
Rochelle
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Sent: 13 February 2013 12:01
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Because the increased D3 intake will cause more calcium to be metabalised
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence
t
From: Rochelle
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:13 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Is that why I have put on weight !!!

Rochelle
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Sent: 13 February 2013 12:01
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Because the increased D3 intake will cause more calcium to be metabalised
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence
Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
I can still get into my clothes but am about 5 lbs heavier which I can’t shift despite all the exercise I do!!
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tamarque
are you saying your bones are heavier? or you have spread your girth?
t
From: Rochelle
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:13 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Is that why I have put on weight !!!
Rochelle
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Sent: 13 February 2013 12:01
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Because the increased D3 intake will cause more calcium to be metabalised
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tamarque
are you saying your bones are heavier? or you have spread your girth?
t
From: Rochelle
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:13 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Is that why I have put on weight !!!

Rochelle
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Sent: 13 February 2013 12:01
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Because the increased D3 intake will cause more calcium to be metabalised
{bigger bones} which will take up more magnesium.
Laurence
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Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
I don’t know your age, but menopausal (hormonal) changes imipact women’s
weight. Also, metabolic changes could have an effect.
I will say on a personal level, taking Vit D3, Calc, mag has never seemed to
impact my weight gain or loss. Exercise and what I eat seems to have a direct
effect.
t
From: Laurence
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Possibly; among other things. (g)
Laurence
weight. Also, metabolic changes could have an effect.
I will say on a personal level, taking Vit D3, Calc, mag has never seemed to
impact my weight gain or loss. Exercise and what I eat seems to have a direct
effect.
t
From: Laurence
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:41 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Possibly; among other things. (g)
Laurence
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Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Hello has anybody thought of Syzygium - if you read Boericke on Syzygium - it tells you what a great remedy this is to stabilize insulin and sugar in the body.
Gisela Di Carlo,Di.Hom
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:20:50 -0500
Subject: Re: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Hi Rochelle. How about Chromium Cruciferate by Ecological Formulas.
J.H.
In a message dated 2/12/2013 11:27:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, rochellemarsden@talktalk.net writes:
Gisela Di Carlo,Di.Hom
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:20:50 -0500
Subject: Re: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Hi Rochelle. How about Chromium Cruciferate by Ecological Formulas.
J.H.
In a message dated 2/12/2013 11:27:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, rochellemarsden@talktalk.net writes:
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Re: Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Sorry Rochlle - I thought we were talking about diabetics and not just weight gain -
Gisela
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From: JAHatERI@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:20:50 -0500
Subject: Re: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Hi Rochelle. How about Chromium Cruciferate by Ecological Formulas.
J.H.
In a message dated 2/12/2013 11:27:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, rochellemarsden@talktalk.net writes:
Gisela
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: JAHatERI@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:20:50 -0500
Subject: Re: FW: [Minutus] Diabetic Medicines for Type-II
Hi Rochelle. How about Chromium Cruciferate by Ecological Formulas.
J.H.
In a message dated 2/12/2013 11:27:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, rochellemarsden@talktalk.net writes: