Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
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Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
Yo forgot to change the subject - this is not about magnesium it seems:
Cancer is not a fungus. maybe you are speaking metaphorically - "like" a fungus?
Oh really ... so how then did the homeopathic approach I use, cure my own breast cancer in 2000 and that of several animals of clients over the past decades?
By good homeopathy yes. And it helps to use a lot of antioxidants.
I disagree that cancer is "normal".
It results after the onslaught of chemical insults to the thymus as a protective system against chronic diseases including cancer.
The pH of the body needs to be within a narrow healthy range - it is not always a lower/acidic pH that encourages cancer - cancer will also happen in cases of metabolic alkalosis - in fact in Cushing's syndrome for example, which always involves metabolic alkalosis - the cancer rate is 50%.
So a *correct* pH makes for a healthy body - it is not a matter of specifically lowering or raising it.
I read it and I do not see that.
What Rife did was to ultrafilter a culture and find that different frequencies of light caused different colors for whatever was in there...
The conclusions drawn were various but I have not seen corroborration of them by electron miscroscope - which would certainly be appropriate and easy to do in 2013.
They worked with B typhus - there is no such thing as B coli (there is E coli).
They showed that microbes can be pleomorphic - they did not prove any microbe was cancer though they assumed it.
Not the same thing,.
I read it - that was what demonstrated pleomorphism - a known feature of many microbes.
Not related to cancer though Rife felt that cancer was a microbe. I see no proof of that in HIS work.
We now know that at least some cancers involve a virus.
(not a fungus)
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Cancer is not a fungus. maybe you are speaking metaphorically - "like" a fungus?
Oh really ... so how then did the homeopathic approach I use, cure my own breast cancer in 2000 and that of several animals of clients over the past decades?
By good homeopathy yes. And it helps to use a lot of antioxidants.
I disagree that cancer is "normal".
It results after the onslaught of chemical insults to the thymus as a protective system against chronic diseases including cancer.
The pH of the body needs to be within a narrow healthy range - it is not always a lower/acidic pH that encourages cancer - cancer will also happen in cases of metabolic alkalosis - in fact in Cushing's syndrome for example, which always involves metabolic alkalosis - the cancer rate is 50%.
So a *correct* pH makes for a healthy body - it is not a matter of specifically lowering or raising it.
I read it and I do not see that.
What Rife did was to ultrafilter a culture and find that different frequencies of light caused different colors for whatever was in there...
The conclusions drawn were various but I have not seen corroborration of them by electron miscroscope - which would certainly be appropriate and easy to do in 2013.
They worked with B typhus - there is no such thing as B coli (there is E coli).
They showed that microbes can be pleomorphic - they did not prove any microbe was cancer though they assumed it.
Not the same thing,.
I read it - that was what demonstrated pleomorphism - a known feature of many microbes.
Not related to cancer though Rife felt that cancer was a microbe. I see no proof of that in HIS work.
We now know that at least some cancers involve a virus.
(not a fungus)
Namaste,
Irene
REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
> The tumor further isolates its contents from oxygen causing a pleomorphic entity to shift to a more advanced stage of its life-cycle and becomes a fungus. This is cancer.
Cancer is not a fungus. maybe you are speaking metaphorically - "like" a fungus?
=Cancer is a fungus. It occurs at the mycelial stage of the
pleomorphic life-cycle. Most of the time
is stems from Candida albicons.
Oh really ... so how then did the homeopathic approach I use, cure my own breast cancer in 2000 and that of several animals of clients over the past decades?
=Please tell. I'm all ears.
By good homeopathy yes. And it helps to use a lot of antioxidants.
I disagree that cancer is "normal".
It results after the onslaught of chemical insults to the thymus as a protective system against chronic diseases including cancer.
=The tumor formation is a natural reaction. It is identical to a placenta. Impaired metabolism causes undigested foods to rot in the
GI tract and this creates a breeding ground for pathogens including fungi that ramify into the intestinal walls breaching them. The waste toxins then circulate and accumulate in various tissues choking them off from adequate nutrition and waste removal. The disease processes then begin and often cancer results.
The pH of the body needs to be within a narrow healthy range - it is not always a lower/acidic pH that encourages cancer - cancer will also happen in cases of metabolic alkalosis - in fact in Cushing's syndrome for example, which always involves metabolic alkalosis - the cancer rate is 50%.
So a *correct* pH makes for a healthy body - it is not a matter of specifically lowering or raising it.
=You are reading too much into what I said. The pH of the blood is what is important and the
more acid it is the better. There is no single pH of the body, it varies widely. Otherwise I agree with your statements.
I read it and I do not see that.
What Rife did was to ultrafilter a culture and find that different frequencies of light caused different colors for whatever was in there...
The conclusions drawn were various but I have not seen corroborration of them by electron miscroscope - which would certainly be appropriate and easy to do in 2013.
=You are not referring to the same experiment I was mentioning. Electron microscopes are
worthless. They cannot observe the behavior of living organisms. It's like figuring out the movie
story line by only viewing the posters in the lobby.
They worked with B typhus - there is no such thing as B coli (there is E coli).
They showed that microbes can be pleomorphic - they did not prove any microbe was cancer though they assumed it.
Not the same thing,.
=Rife referred to it as b coli. I agree that he was obviously viewing E coli. The pleomorphic transformation was the key to the experiment. I was not aware that this was put into writing, I only heard of it in the Stafford recordings. Surely someone has transcribed them regarding this experiment. Rife also worked extensively with Typhus but not in this particular experiment.
I read it - that was what demonstrated pleomorphism - a known feature of many microbes.
Not related to cancer though Rife felt that cancer was a microbe. I see no proof of that in HIS work.
We now know that at least some cancers involve a virus.
(not a fungus)
=A virus is just an earlier stage of the pleomorphic cycle, it eventually will become a yeast and then a fungus. The relative pH controls the pleomorphic transformations. Anaerobic digestion occurs within the tumor capsule. This is a natural part of the healing cycle. Yes, a microbe is responsible for this action and its presence is the result of pleomorphic shifting due to pH. Just because microscopic technology cannot see it does not mean that it isn't there. Rife's microscope photos are proof positive of that fact. Many others have also stated that cancer is a fungus. Opening the lymph channels carries away the Necrone responsible for the decay and the cancer process then stops. Other factors such as oxygen also play a role.
=Rife mentioned that when he found the source it would be a microbe and he went on to subsequently discover it. He found two and named them. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
Cancer is not a fungus. maybe you are speaking metaphorically - "like" a fungus?
=Cancer is a fungus. It occurs at the mycelial stage of the
pleomorphic life-cycle. Most of the time
is stems from Candida albicons.
Oh really ... so how then did the homeopathic approach I use, cure my own breast cancer in 2000 and that of several animals of clients over the past decades?
=Please tell. I'm all ears.
By good homeopathy yes. And it helps to use a lot of antioxidants.
I disagree that cancer is "normal".
It results after the onslaught of chemical insults to the thymus as a protective system against chronic diseases including cancer.
=The tumor formation is a natural reaction. It is identical to a placenta. Impaired metabolism causes undigested foods to rot in the
GI tract and this creates a breeding ground for pathogens including fungi that ramify into the intestinal walls breaching them. The waste toxins then circulate and accumulate in various tissues choking them off from adequate nutrition and waste removal. The disease processes then begin and often cancer results.
The pH of the body needs to be within a narrow healthy range - it is not always a lower/acidic pH that encourages cancer - cancer will also happen in cases of metabolic alkalosis - in fact in Cushing's syndrome for example, which always involves metabolic alkalosis - the cancer rate is 50%.
So a *correct* pH makes for a healthy body - it is not a matter of specifically lowering or raising it.
=You are reading too much into what I said. The pH of the blood is what is important and the
more acid it is the better. There is no single pH of the body, it varies widely. Otherwise I agree with your statements.
I read it and I do not see that.
What Rife did was to ultrafilter a culture and find that different frequencies of light caused different colors for whatever was in there...
The conclusions drawn were various but I have not seen corroborration of them by electron miscroscope - which would certainly be appropriate and easy to do in 2013.
=You are not referring to the same experiment I was mentioning. Electron microscopes are
worthless. They cannot observe the behavior of living organisms. It's like figuring out the movie
story line by only viewing the posters in the lobby.
They worked with B typhus - there is no such thing as B coli (there is E coli).
They showed that microbes can be pleomorphic - they did not prove any microbe was cancer though they assumed it.
Not the same thing,.
=Rife referred to it as b coli. I agree that he was obviously viewing E coli. The pleomorphic transformation was the key to the experiment. I was not aware that this was put into writing, I only heard of it in the Stafford recordings. Surely someone has transcribed them regarding this experiment. Rife also worked extensively with Typhus but not in this particular experiment.
I read it - that was what demonstrated pleomorphism - a known feature of many microbes.
Not related to cancer though Rife felt that cancer was a microbe. I see no proof of that in HIS work.
We now know that at least some cancers involve a virus.
(not a fungus)
=A virus is just an earlier stage of the pleomorphic cycle, it eventually will become a yeast and then a fungus. The relative pH controls the pleomorphic transformations. Anaerobic digestion occurs within the tumor capsule. This is a natural part of the healing cycle. Yes, a microbe is responsible for this action and its presence is the result of pleomorphic shifting due to pH. Just because microscopic technology cannot see it does not mean that it isn't there. Rife's microscope photos are proof positive of that fact. Many others have also stated that cancer is a fungus. Opening the lymph channels carries away the Necrone responsible for the decay and the cancer process then stops. Other factors such as oxygen also play a role.
=Rife mentioned that when he found the source it would be a microbe and he went on to subsequently discover it. He found two and named them. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
I think what's meant here is that formation of cancerous *cells* is a normal part of body processes.
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!

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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells (Diploid totipotent) that are parted out and used as basic construction materials to create tissue, bones, teeth etc.
The natural formation of protective tumors are produced by the stem cell conversion into Trophoblast cells that form the placenta/tumor. Fibrin is the basic construction material which is normal to the body and is not seen by the immune system which is what makes cancer so insidious.
While active, the tumor emits hCG hormone which prevents an attack by the white cells. Both cancer and pregnancy emit this hormone. If this mechanism were not in place, the fetus would be attacked and a pregnancy could not occur.
When anaerobisis is halted within the tumor, the hCG hormone stops and digestive enzymes, primarily Trypsin and Chymotrypsin will erode the fibrin coating of the tumor exposing its contents. The white cells then enter and devour the ex-necrotic tissue. The tumor is thus dissolved and all signs of its presence disappear other than some light scar tissue in a few incidences. When an injury occurs it is this process that orchestrates the healing. If the lymphatic flow is attenuated, this process goes out of control and the environment for disease is thus created. All tumors begin as benign, as the pH shifts to a more alkaline state, excess acids are excreted and the humors appear as being acidic, but the actual disease process is hyperalkalinity within the tumor. As the pH range widens between the fluids and the environment within the tumor, Progenator cryptocides shifts from a yeast to a fungal form and the tumor becomes partially malignant. Typically only about 15% of the tumor becomes cancerous. Cancer is usually the end result. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen www.lulu.com/comdyne
-------------------------------------------------------------------I think what's meant here is that formation of cancerous *cells* is a normal part of body processes.
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!
The natural formation of protective tumors are produced by the stem cell conversion into Trophoblast cells that form the placenta/tumor. Fibrin is the basic construction material which is normal to the body and is not seen by the immune system which is what makes cancer so insidious.
While active, the tumor emits hCG hormone which prevents an attack by the white cells. Both cancer and pregnancy emit this hormone. If this mechanism were not in place, the fetus would be attacked and a pregnancy could not occur.
When anaerobisis is halted within the tumor, the hCG hormone stops and digestive enzymes, primarily Trypsin and Chymotrypsin will erode the fibrin coating of the tumor exposing its contents. The white cells then enter and devour the ex-necrotic tissue. The tumor is thus dissolved and all signs of its presence disappear other than some light scar tissue in a few incidences. When an injury occurs it is this process that orchestrates the healing. If the lymphatic flow is attenuated, this process goes out of control and the environment for disease is thus created. All tumors begin as benign, as the pH shifts to a more alkaline state, excess acids are excreted and the humors appear as being acidic, but the actual disease process is hyperalkalinity within the tumor. As the pH range widens between the fluids and the environment within the tumor, Progenator cryptocides shifts from a yeast to a fungal form and the tumor becomes partially malignant. Typically only about 15% of the tumor becomes cancerous. Cancer is usually the end result. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen www.lulu.com/comdyne
-------------------------------------------------------------------I think what's meant here is that formation of cancerous *cells* is a normal part of body processes.
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!

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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
Greetings
You wrote:
“There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells”
If that is the case, how is that it is possible to identify metastatic cells as to having a source organ like Breast, kidney, skin etc?
Also put in other words, cancer is not a disease per se – it is indeed a disease or malfunction of the immune system.
Regards
Soroush
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Subject: Re: Cancer? ...was Re: [Minutus] Re: Magnesium hydrate
There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells (Diploid totipotent) that are parted out and used as basic construction materials to create tissue, bones, teeth etc.
The natural formation of protective tumors are produced by the stem cell conversion into Trophoblast cells that form the placenta/tumor. Fibrin is the basic construction material which is normal to the body and is not seen by the immune system which is what makes cancer so insidious.
While active, the tumor emits hCG hormone which prevents an attack by the white cells. Both cancer and pregnancy emit this hormone. If this mechanism were not in place, the fetus would be attacked and a pregnancy could not occur.
When anaerobisis is halted within the tumor, the hCG hormone stops and digestive enzymes, primarily Trypsin and Chymotrypsin will erode the fibrin coating of the tumor exposing its contents. The white cells then enter and devour the ex-necrotic tissue. The tumor is thus dissolved and all signs of its presence disappear other than some light scar tissue in a few incidences. When an injury occurs it is this process that orchestrates the healing. If the lymphatic flow is attenuated, this process goes out of control and the environment for disease is thus created. All tumors begin as benign, as the pH shifts to a more alkaline state, excess acids are excreted and the humors appear as being acidic, but the actual disease process is hyperalkalinity within the tumor. As the pH range widens between the fluids and the environment within the tumor, Progenator cryptocides shifts from a yeast to a fungal form and the tumor becomes partially malignant. Typically only about 15% of the tumor becomes cancerous. Cancer is usually the end result. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen www.lulu.com/comdyne
----------------------------------------------------------I think what's meant here is that formation of cancerous *cells* is a normal part of body processes.
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!
You wrote:
“There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells”
If that is the case, how is that it is possible to identify metastatic cells as to having a source organ like Breast, kidney, skin etc?
Also put in other words, cancer is not a disease per se – it is indeed a disease or malfunction of the immune system.
Regards
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of comdyne2002
Sent: 30 December 2012 13:21
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Cancer? ...was Re: [Minutus] Re: Magnesium hydrate
There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells (Diploid totipotent) that are parted out and used as basic construction materials to create tissue, bones, teeth etc.
The natural formation of protective tumors are produced by the stem cell conversion into Trophoblast cells that form the placenta/tumor. Fibrin is the basic construction material which is normal to the body and is not seen by the immune system which is what makes cancer so insidious.
While active, the tumor emits hCG hormone which prevents an attack by the white cells. Both cancer and pregnancy emit this hormone. If this mechanism were not in place, the fetus would be attacked and a pregnancy could not occur.
When anaerobisis is halted within the tumor, the hCG hormone stops and digestive enzymes, primarily Trypsin and Chymotrypsin will erode the fibrin coating of the tumor exposing its contents. The white cells then enter and devour the ex-necrotic tissue. The tumor is thus dissolved and all signs of its presence disappear other than some light scar tissue in a few incidences. When an injury occurs it is this process that orchestrates the healing. If the lymphatic flow is attenuated, this process goes out of control and the environment for disease is thus created. All tumors begin as benign, as the pH shifts to a more alkaline state, excess acids are excreted and the humors appear as being acidic, but the actual disease process is hyperalkalinity within the tumor. As the pH range widens between the fluids and the environment within the tumor, Progenator cryptocides shifts from a yeast to a fungal form and the tumor becomes partially malignant. Typically only about 15% of the tumor becomes cancerous. Cancer is usually the end result. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen www.lulu.com/comdyne
----------------------------------------------------------I think what's meant here is that formation of cancerous *cells* is a normal part of body processes.
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!

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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
When people make statements like "we all have cancer cells in our bodies," this implies that there are specific cancer cells that linger until activated, at which time they induce the disease. This is not true. Cancer is caused by metabolic dis-function. Normal cells, which are infected by cancer take on different characteristics that make them more similar than different. Researchers call them undifferentiated and differentiated. Basically, cells change their basic character when the DNA/RNA is spliced by a virus or mycoplasma. The point is that they are not like normal cells.
As the cells replicate they become less and less complex to the point that they appear to be plant-like but the differentiated ones retain the characteristics of the tissue from where they originated.
The deadly skin cancer cells of the melanoma variety are a good example. They retain the coloration of the original tissue and most of the basic characteristics. Lung cancer cells were found in a tumor in my father's neck which led to his murder by the staff radiologist who know full-well that incinerating the tumor would kill him.
Lastly, cancer isn't a disease but rather a defense mechanism by which the body attempts to rid itself of necrotic tissue and its toxic residue. The immune system has nothing to do with it as it cannot see the fibrin tissue as foreign to the body until the hCG production is halted. After the digestive enzymes have then eroded the fibrin coating, the immune system kicks in and devours the tumor. The presence of excessive toxins attenuates the primal function of the immune system but when these are removed and the immune system is stimulated (with perhaps homepopathics?) the body takes over and Nature follows its intended course.
A specific vaccine can be made from suppurating wounds. By sterilizing it under UV-C light, the residue can be re-injected subcutaneously far away from the initial infection thus inducing a cytokinetic storm. Just like the fire department responding to a false alarm, the increased number of white cells arrive at the scene only to find no infection. As they travel through the blood stream they eventually encounter the origin of infection and add their destructive powers to the inflammatory reaction thus overcoming the crisis. Here homeopathy could very well become the treatment of finality. It is for this reason that I joined this impressive group. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
www.lulu.com/comdyne
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"There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells"
If that is the case, how is that it is possible to identify metastatic cells as to having a source organ like Breast, kidney, skin etc?
Also put in other words, cancer is not a disease per se – it is indeed a disease or malfunction of the immune system.
As the cells replicate they become less and less complex to the point that they appear to be plant-like but the differentiated ones retain the characteristics of the tissue from where they originated.
The deadly skin cancer cells of the melanoma variety are a good example. They retain the coloration of the original tissue and most of the basic characteristics. Lung cancer cells were found in a tumor in my father's neck which led to his murder by the staff radiologist who know full-well that incinerating the tumor would kill him.
Lastly, cancer isn't a disease but rather a defense mechanism by which the body attempts to rid itself of necrotic tissue and its toxic residue. The immune system has nothing to do with it as it cannot see the fibrin tissue as foreign to the body until the hCG production is halted. After the digestive enzymes have then eroded the fibrin coating, the immune system kicks in and devours the tumor. The presence of excessive toxins attenuates the primal function of the immune system but when these are removed and the immune system is stimulated (with perhaps homepopathics?) the body takes over and Nature follows its intended course.
A specific vaccine can be made from suppurating wounds. By sterilizing it under UV-C light, the residue can be re-injected subcutaneously far away from the initial infection thus inducing a cytokinetic storm. Just like the fire department responding to a false alarm, the increased number of white cells arrive at the scene only to find no infection. As they travel through the blood stream they eventually encounter the origin of infection and add their destructive powers to the inflammatory reaction thus overcoming the crisis. Here homeopathy could very well become the treatment of finality. It is for this reason that I joined this impressive group. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
www.lulu.com/comdyne
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"There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells"
If that is the case, how is that it is possible to identify metastatic cells as to having a source organ like Breast, kidney, skin etc?
Also put in other words, cancer is not a disease per se – it is indeed a disease or malfunction of the immune system.
Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
Hi Carmi,
It's interesting that you mentioned the alkalinity of the body as a prerequisite for recovery from cancer. Here's an article confirming the role of alkalinity (induced via baking soda) in the recovery process:
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/20 ... n-and.html
I wonder if there's a homeopathic remedy equal to traditional baking soda, which would have the same effect.
Regards,
Ana
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There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells (Diploid totipotent) that are parted out and used as basic construction materials to create tissue, bones, teeth etc.
The natural formation of protective tumors are produced by the stem cell conversion into Trophoblast cells that form the placenta/tumor. Fibrin is the basic construction material which is normal to the body and is not seen by the immune system which is what makes cancer so insidious.
While active, the tumor emits hCG hormone which prevents an attack by the white cells. Both cancer and pregnancy emit this hormone. If this mechanism were not in place, the fetus would be attacked and a pregnancy could not occur.
When anaerobisis is halted within the tumor, the hCG hormone stops and digestive enzymes, primarily Trypsin and Chymotrypsin will erode the fibrin coating of the tumor exposing its contents. The white cells then enter and devour the ex-necrotic tissue. The tumor is thus dissolved and all signs of its presence disappear other than some light scar tissue in a few incidences. When an injury occurs it is this process that orchestrates the healing. If the lymphatic flow is attenuated, this process goes out of control and the environment for disease is thus created. All tumors begin as benign, as the pH shifts to a more alkaline state, excess acids are excreted and the humors appear as being acidic, but the actual disease process is hyperalkalinity within the tumor. As the pH range widens between the fluids and the environment within the tumor, Progenator cryptocides shifts from a yeast to a fungal form and the tumor becomes partially malignant. Typically only about 15% of the tumor becomes cancerous. Cancer is usually the end result. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen www.lulu.com/comdyne
----------------------------------------------------------I think what's meant here is that formation of cancerous *cells* is a normal part of body processes.
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!
It's interesting that you mentioned the alkalinity of the body as a prerequisite for recovery from cancer. Here's an article confirming the role of alkalinity (induced via baking soda) in the recovery process:
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/20 ... n-and.html
I wonder if there's a homeopathic remedy equal to traditional baking soda, which would have the same effect.
Regards,
Ana
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Subject: Re: Cancer? ...was Re: [Minutus] Re: Magnesium hydrate
There is no such thing as a "cancer cell." Tumors are formed from stem cells (Diploid totipotent) that are parted out and used as basic construction materials to create tissue, bones, teeth etc.
The natural formation of protective tumors are produced by the stem cell conversion into Trophoblast cells that form the placenta/tumor. Fibrin is the basic construction material which is normal to the body and is not seen by the immune system which is what makes cancer so insidious.
While active, the tumor emits hCG hormone which prevents an attack by the white cells. Both cancer and pregnancy emit this hormone. If this mechanism were not in place, the fetus would be attacked and a pregnancy could not occur.
When anaerobisis is halted within the tumor, the hCG hormone stops and digestive enzymes, primarily Trypsin and Chymotrypsin will erode the fibrin coating of the tumor exposing its contents. The white cells then enter and devour the ex-necrotic tissue. The tumor is thus dissolved and all signs of its presence disappear other than some light scar tissue in a few incidences. When an injury occurs it is this process that orchestrates the healing. If the lymphatic flow is attenuated, this process goes out of control and the environment for disease is thus created. All tumors begin as benign, as the pH shifts to a more alkaline state, excess acids are excreted and the humors appear as being acidic, but the actual disease process is hyperalkalinity within the tumor. As the pH range widens between the fluids and the environment within the tumor, Progenator cryptocides shifts from a yeast to a fungal form and the tumor becomes partially malignant. Typically only about 15% of the tumor becomes cancerous. Cancer is usually the end result. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen www.lulu.com/comdyne
----------------------------------------------------------I think what's meant here is that formation of cancerous *cells* is a normal part of body processes.
And for that reason, the body has several immune functions that are specifically able to search out and destroy them.
Once symptoms / diagnosis of "cancer" occur, that means that the immune system has not been able to keep up.
So "cancer" can be combatted in various ways, including reduction of the tumors (which lightens the load on the immune system), and also including strengthening the immune (and eliminative etc.) system.
I do think it's an important point, that our immune system is specifically outfitted for finding and destroying cancer cells, *if* it has the needed raw materials (aka nutrition) to work with. Without side-effects!

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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
It is not a prerequisite - a too alkaline blood results in 50% cancer rate.
Carmi's theories do not hold any water.
One needs a correct pH to e healthy - not alkaline, not acidic, but ideal. And it is by no means the only relevant factor in cancer recovery.
In the case I referred to for example, there was very alkaline pH (blood pH is what I refer to) when breast cancer occurred. Homeopathy fixed the cancer - but still there is the continued alkaline pH due to another underlying issue.
Blogs are not useful as sources of any valid information - you need to use scientific works.
The claim here is that:
"There is little dispute that cancer is an ACIDIC condition which can be measured in terms of tumor pH."
Au contraire - there is ALL kinds of dispute - saying there is not, does not make it true! Anyone can make an unsubstantiated claim.
pH is not a determinant for possibility or probability of cancers forming.
They form equally well in acidic or alkaline environment.
There's a lot of hype out there about becoming more alkaline - it's incorrect!
The body functions optimally at the correct pH of blood and body tissues . Not more acidic. Not more alkaline.
The optimal pH is likely close to pH of 7.4. At this pH the body has the most efficient absorption and use of nutrients. Symptoms of illness tend to show if pH is outside the range of 7.35 to 7.45.
(Some claimed experts say 7.365 is ideal; others claim 7.461 is optimal for absorbing nutrients - they do not say which nutrients - but that is above the pH at which symptoms of illness occur.)
The point it - Most illnesses cause skewing of the pH, either to more alkaline (resulting in up to 50% cancer rates) or to more acidic - also resulting in increased cancer rates though I do to know the percentage.
Until someone proves otherwise, I consider pH to be an indicator of health and metabolic balance or imbalance and not a precursor of any specific situation such as cancer.
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Carmi's theories do not hold any water.
One needs a correct pH to e healthy - not alkaline, not acidic, but ideal. And it is by no means the only relevant factor in cancer recovery.
In the case I referred to for example, there was very alkaline pH (blood pH is what I refer to) when breast cancer occurred. Homeopathy fixed the cancer - but still there is the continued alkaline pH due to another underlying issue.
Blogs are not useful as sources of any valid information - you need to use scientific works.
The claim here is that:
"There is little dispute that cancer is an ACIDIC condition which can be measured in terms of tumor pH."
Au contraire - there is ALL kinds of dispute - saying there is not, does not make it true! Anyone can make an unsubstantiated claim.
pH is not a determinant for possibility or probability of cancers forming.
They form equally well in acidic or alkaline environment.
There's a lot of hype out there about becoming more alkaline - it's incorrect!
The body functions optimally at the correct pH of blood and body tissues . Not more acidic. Not more alkaline.
The optimal pH is likely close to pH of 7.4. At this pH the body has the most efficient absorption and use of nutrients. Symptoms of illness tend to show if pH is outside the range of 7.35 to 7.45.
(Some claimed experts say 7.365 is ideal; others claim 7.461 is optimal for absorbing nutrients - they do not say which nutrients - but that is above the pH at which symptoms of illness occur.)
The point it - Most illnesses cause skewing of the pH, either to more alkaline (resulting in up to 50% cancer rates) or to more acidic - also resulting in increased cancer rates though I do to know the percentage.
Until someone proves otherwise, I consider pH to be an indicator of health and metabolic balance or imbalance and not a precursor of any specific situation such as cancer.
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
I do nto know who invented that fiction.
You started out speaking about pleomorphism - which is the ability of some *bacteria* to alter their shape or size in response to environmental conditions. Rife saw it with his microscope. Whoever assumed that meant one organism changed into another one was mistaken - there is no such ting as a life cycle between viruses and fungi - except maybe in sci-fi stories!
In Rife's time,in 1932, light microscopes could not see a whole lot of what was really happening in the growth medium with the smaller living organisms (they were bacteria not viruses that Rife was seeing) - he managed to cause color changes to be viewed but could not prove what was causing that exactly.
It most definitely is not!
The placenta is a controlled-growth tissue.
Cancer is tissue whose cells have damaged DNA and which grow in an UNcontrolled fashion.
That's the east of our worries.
Impaired nutrition results in a shortage of good nutrients to run the mechanisms of the body - that's far more relevant.
If foods merely "rotted" in the intestines, that would be bacterial fermentation - not fungal. Even if fungi were present they would not "rot" food - (they'd lIkely be digested as microprotein). Bacteria do all the rotting work. Depending on what bacteria are present, that can even be beneficial!
A theory that holds no water.
What really happens is that cancer patients get radiation treatment for cancer, and it knocks out what's left of the immune system, as a result of which they can get an intestinal fungal infections. the rate of this is documented:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC495110/
It's no reason to suggest fungi penetrate intestinal walls much less cause cancer - that's back to front - fungal infection results AFTER cancer.
No - fungi invade only when the immune system is extremely compromised.
They do not cause cancer. In fact the toxins of fungi such as aspergillus are actually toxic to cancer cells and are used in some modern cancer treatments:-)
Not so. An acid pH is not healthy. You can try to wander about with concentrated sulfuric acid in your veins - it will not keep you alive!
On the contrary - It varies very narrowly in the blood and tissues, and needs to be slightly alkaline (pH 7.4, 7.0 being neutral. An acid pH is an indicator of a very ill person. Acceptable "normal" range is 7.35 to 7.45 - it's very narrow! and it is not acidic - acid is below 7.0)
There is no fungus of cancer.
Cancer does not involve fungus (except as a treatment).
They only THOUGHT they showed it.
There is no such tign sas a pleomorphic life cycle.
PLeomorphic bacteria can somewhat change shape to suit their needs in different growth media - bu there is no such ting as a bacteria turninginto somethig else besides a bacteria of the same type with a slightly different physical shape. Bacteria cannot turn into fungus or virus etc - no organism can turn into a different one.
Does not happen and is not possible.
Each living organism invokes its genetic code to determine what it looks like and how it replicates and also how the pleomorphism of bacteria works for that bacteria. It does not become a different bacteria in the process - it's still the same one. (Unless Monsanto gets hold of it that is - they stick gene bits for pesticides into plants - and go other nasty genetic things with far reaching consequences - but that's not a process in nature and is not pleomorphism).
Nope....though pH MIGHT be one possible factor in inducing survival by pleomorph activity.
Pleomorph bacteria change to another pleomorph state due to environmental changes that threaten survival.
An example:
The bacterium that causes Lymes disease (Borrelia burgdorferii) is in the spirochete category of bacteria and also happens to be a pleomorph. It cycles between a cyst form (to help it survive as the cyst has a surrounding wall that makes it impervious to many drugs) and a bio-film active form - which can function and replicate as opposed to just sitting there as a cyst form - but which is then much more susceptible to attack.
Escherichia coli is also a pleomorph - it can encapsulate to withstand environmental issues - usually lack of water or presence of drugs - but has to unencapsulate to grow and reproduce. THAT is what pleomorphism is about. Nothing changes form one organism into another. E coli remains E coli and Borrelia burgdorferii remains Borrelia burgdorferii in each respective pleomorph form.
Now you are jumping to a tumor. What capsule?
Cancers need no capsule and have none. They consist of cells much like the normal cells from which the cancer arises.
Cancer stem cells are tissue specific. Breast Cancer stem cells are behind a breast cancer tumor - including any metastasized version of it in a new location - it is still breast tissue if the primary cancer is breast cancer.
of nothing except that bacteria perform pleomorph activity.
They have great imaginations and a great lack of scientific knowledge and understanding.
In another email you sneer at electron microscope photographs.
They indeed show static pictures of surfaces and of cross sections inside and of detailed structure - but at a detailed level that shows what one is looking at - not like the Rife pictures that are just colors that change - and which can be interpreted in dozens of ways.
Cancer stem cells occur for each type of cancer. The latest research shows that these - and the normal tissues where a cancer can form - both change forms from a static one that replicates fast - to a mobile one that can send a cell of in a new direction but which cannot replicate en route.
IN the case of the cancer stem cell, this change to mobile form versus static form (called epithelial form), is triggered by a heat shock protein (specifically HSP 27) and that is what results in a metaastasis of the cancer to a new area - where it changes back to epithelial form so it can multiply. The multiplication/replication - is triggered by a micro-RNA gene fragment.
SO this is the PHYSICAL mechanism of cancer - not a fungus as out of date theories have suggested.
It's not 1932 any more. It's almost 2013. Progress in understanding the MECANISM of cancer - HAS been made!
ANy new theory you want to come up with need to fit the newly known FACTS.
The above is shown as fact - not colored lights open to interpretation - but visible and chemically present triggers with specific target areas on the cells that are visible under the electron microscope - and which respond predictably to triggers of receptors on the surface - even if they are not doing the boggie woogie all in one picture - a series of pictures is really no big deal - much as a movie consists of still frames:-)
SO we know at a very detailed level what cancer looks like and consists of.
Sorry but there's no fungus involved.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
You started out speaking about pleomorphism - which is the ability of some *bacteria* to alter their shape or size in response to environmental conditions. Rife saw it with his microscope. Whoever assumed that meant one organism changed into another one was mistaken - there is no such ting as a life cycle between viruses and fungi - except maybe in sci-fi stories!
In Rife's time,in 1932, light microscopes could not see a whole lot of what was really happening in the growth medium with the smaller living organisms (they were bacteria not viruses that Rife was seeing) - he managed to cause color changes to be viewed but could not prove what was causing that exactly.
It most definitely is not!
The placenta is a controlled-growth tissue.
Cancer is tissue whose cells have damaged DNA and which grow in an UNcontrolled fashion.
That's the east of our worries.
Impaired nutrition results in a shortage of good nutrients to run the mechanisms of the body - that's far more relevant.
If foods merely "rotted" in the intestines, that would be bacterial fermentation - not fungal. Even if fungi were present they would not "rot" food - (they'd lIkely be digested as microprotein). Bacteria do all the rotting work. Depending on what bacteria are present, that can even be beneficial!
A theory that holds no water.
What really happens is that cancer patients get radiation treatment for cancer, and it knocks out what's left of the immune system, as a result of which they can get an intestinal fungal infections. the rate of this is documented:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC495110/
It's no reason to suggest fungi penetrate intestinal walls much less cause cancer - that's back to front - fungal infection results AFTER cancer.
No - fungi invade only when the immune system is extremely compromised.
They do not cause cancer. In fact the toxins of fungi such as aspergillus are actually toxic to cancer cells and are used in some modern cancer treatments:-)
Not so. An acid pH is not healthy. You can try to wander about with concentrated sulfuric acid in your veins - it will not keep you alive!
On the contrary - It varies very narrowly in the blood and tissues, and needs to be slightly alkaline (pH 7.4, 7.0 being neutral. An acid pH is an indicator of a very ill person. Acceptable "normal" range is 7.35 to 7.45 - it's very narrow! and it is not acidic - acid is below 7.0)
There is no fungus of cancer.
Cancer does not involve fungus (except as a treatment).
They only THOUGHT they showed it.
There is no such tign sas a pleomorphic life cycle.
PLeomorphic bacteria can somewhat change shape to suit their needs in different growth media - bu there is no such ting as a bacteria turninginto somethig else besides a bacteria of the same type with a slightly different physical shape. Bacteria cannot turn into fungus or virus etc - no organism can turn into a different one.
Does not happen and is not possible.
Each living organism invokes its genetic code to determine what it looks like and how it replicates and also how the pleomorphism of bacteria works for that bacteria. It does not become a different bacteria in the process - it's still the same one. (Unless Monsanto gets hold of it that is - they stick gene bits for pesticides into plants - and go other nasty genetic things with far reaching consequences - but that's not a process in nature and is not pleomorphism).
Nope....though pH MIGHT be one possible factor in inducing survival by pleomorph activity.
Pleomorph bacteria change to another pleomorph state due to environmental changes that threaten survival.
An example:
The bacterium that causes Lymes disease (Borrelia burgdorferii) is in the spirochete category of bacteria and also happens to be a pleomorph. It cycles between a cyst form (to help it survive as the cyst has a surrounding wall that makes it impervious to many drugs) and a bio-film active form - which can function and replicate as opposed to just sitting there as a cyst form - but which is then much more susceptible to attack.
Escherichia coli is also a pleomorph - it can encapsulate to withstand environmental issues - usually lack of water or presence of drugs - but has to unencapsulate to grow and reproduce. THAT is what pleomorphism is about. Nothing changes form one organism into another. E coli remains E coli and Borrelia burgdorferii remains Borrelia burgdorferii in each respective pleomorph form.
Now you are jumping to a tumor. What capsule?
Cancers need no capsule and have none. They consist of cells much like the normal cells from which the cancer arises.
Cancer stem cells are tissue specific. Breast Cancer stem cells are behind a breast cancer tumor - including any metastasized version of it in a new location - it is still breast tissue if the primary cancer is breast cancer.
of nothing except that bacteria perform pleomorph activity.
They have great imaginations and a great lack of scientific knowledge and understanding.
In another email you sneer at electron microscope photographs.
They indeed show static pictures of surfaces and of cross sections inside and of detailed structure - but at a detailed level that shows what one is looking at - not like the Rife pictures that are just colors that change - and which can be interpreted in dozens of ways.
Cancer stem cells occur for each type of cancer. The latest research shows that these - and the normal tissues where a cancer can form - both change forms from a static one that replicates fast - to a mobile one that can send a cell of in a new direction but which cannot replicate en route.
IN the case of the cancer stem cell, this change to mobile form versus static form (called epithelial form), is triggered by a heat shock protein (specifically HSP 27) and that is what results in a metaastasis of the cancer to a new area - where it changes back to epithelial form so it can multiply. The multiplication/replication - is triggered by a micro-RNA gene fragment.
SO this is the PHYSICAL mechanism of cancer - not a fungus as out of date theories have suggested.
It's not 1932 any more. It's almost 2013. Progress in understanding the MECANISM of cancer - HAS been made!
ANy new theory you want to come up with need to fit the newly known FACTS.
The above is shown as fact - not colored lights open to interpretation - but visible and chemically present triggers with specific target areas on the cells that are visible under the electron microscope - and which respond predictably to triggers of receptors on the surface - even if they are not doing the boggie woogie all in one picture - a series of pictures is really no big deal - much as a movie consists of still frames:-)
SO we know at a very detailed level what cancer looks like and consists of.
Sorry but there's no fungus involved.
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Re: Cancer? ...was Magnesium hydrate
> It's interesting that you (Carmi Hazen) mentioned the alkalinity of the body as a prerequisite for recovery from cancer.
=Adding alkalinity to the body is necessary to counter excess acidity in the circulatory fluids. Doing so increases oxygenation which is required to restore homeostasis. However, this will only slow down the cancer temporarily as it adjusts to the changed environment. Within the cancer the alkalinity is actually excessive and adding more alkalinity will only make matters worse. High dose alkalinity was the basis for the H.E. Sartori protocol which was improved upon by A. Keith Brewer. It is the most effective "end stage" treatment protocol and has turned many terminal cases around at the 11th hour. It can only be used for short periods of time and will kill the patient if continued too long.
It is not a prerequisite - a too alkaline blood results in 50% cancer rate. Carmi's theories do not hold any water.
=I did not say that alkalinity of the body is a precursor for cancer. What I said was that the blood is too alkaline, not the entire body with its various fluids. Within the tumors the pH is very different than outside of them. Their biological processes produce massive amounts of excreted lactic acid. As more and more acid accumulates, the blood draws out more alkalininty from the reserves and then from muscle and bone. The pH of the blood will be high. All of this is covered and documented in my book.
One needs a correct pH to be healthy - not alkaline, not acidic, but ideal. And it is by no means the only relevant factor in cancer recovery.
In the case I referred to for example, there was very alkaline pH (blood pH is what I refer to) when breast cancer occurred. Homeopathy fixed the cancer - but still there is the continued alkaline pH due to another underlying issue.
=I never said anything different and I totally agree with your last statement. You are reading much more into my statements than what I actually said.
Blogs are not useful as sources of any valid information - you need to use scientific works.
The claim here is that:
"There is little dispute that cancer is an ACIDIC condition which can be measured in terms of tumor pH."
Au contraire - there is ALL kinds of dispute - saying there is not, does not make it true! Anyone can make an unsubstantiated claim.
pH is not a determinant for possibility or probability of cancers forming. They form equally well in acidic or alkaline environment.
=I agree. What do you claim I said to the contrary? I don't recall making such statements. pH does in fact control pleomorphic transformation. Don't get on the "scientific" kick. There is nothing "scientific" about modern medicine, its all guess work and is most often wrong. Such terms are used to cloak gross ignorance. I never said that cancer was an acidic condition. Never have and never will. Where did you get that from? It didn't come from me.
There's a lot of hype out there about becoming more alkaline - it's incorrect!
The body functions optimally at the correct pH of blood and body tissues . Not more acidic. Not more alkaline.
The optimal pH is likely close to pH of 7.4. At this pH the body has the most efficient absorption and use of nutrients. Symptoms of illness tend to show if pH is outside the range of 7.35 to 7.45.
(Some claimed experts say 7.365 is ideal; others claim 7.461 is optimal for absorbing nutrients - they do not say which nutrients - but that is above the pH at which symptoms of illness occur.)
The point it - Most illnesses cause skewing of the pH, either to more alkaline (resulting in up to 50% cancer rates) or to more acidic - also resulting in increased cancer rates though I do to know the percentage.
Until someone proves otherwise, I consider pH to be an indicator of health and metabolic balance or imbalance and not a precursor of any specific situation such as cancer.
=No, pH is the control mechanism for pleomorphism. Rife & Kendall proved this beyond any doubt. Metabolic and hormonal imbalance produces shifts in pH, that is true, but saliva and urine testing only indicate the state at the moment as it changes throughout the day due to many factors including but not limited to diet. A far better test is to measure the urine phosphorus to calcium ratio. I also cover that in my book. A pH of 7.461 is highly indicative of cancer or some other degenerative disease going on somewhere in the body.
Www.lulu.com/comdyne Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
=Adding alkalinity to the body is necessary to counter excess acidity in the circulatory fluids. Doing so increases oxygenation which is required to restore homeostasis. However, this will only slow down the cancer temporarily as it adjusts to the changed environment. Within the cancer the alkalinity is actually excessive and adding more alkalinity will only make matters worse. High dose alkalinity was the basis for the H.E. Sartori protocol which was improved upon by A. Keith Brewer. It is the most effective "end stage" treatment protocol and has turned many terminal cases around at the 11th hour. It can only be used for short periods of time and will kill the patient if continued too long.
It is not a prerequisite - a too alkaline blood results in 50% cancer rate. Carmi's theories do not hold any water.
=I did not say that alkalinity of the body is a precursor for cancer. What I said was that the blood is too alkaline, not the entire body with its various fluids. Within the tumors the pH is very different than outside of them. Their biological processes produce massive amounts of excreted lactic acid. As more and more acid accumulates, the blood draws out more alkalininty from the reserves and then from muscle and bone. The pH of the blood will be high. All of this is covered and documented in my book.
One needs a correct pH to be healthy - not alkaline, not acidic, but ideal. And it is by no means the only relevant factor in cancer recovery.
In the case I referred to for example, there was very alkaline pH (blood pH is what I refer to) when breast cancer occurred. Homeopathy fixed the cancer - but still there is the continued alkaline pH due to another underlying issue.
=I never said anything different and I totally agree with your last statement. You are reading much more into my statements than what I actually said.
Blogs are not useful as sources of any valid information - you need to use scientific works.
The claim here is that:
"There is little dispute that cancer is an ACIDIC condition which can be measured in terms of tumor pH."
Au contraire - there is ALL kinds of dispute - saying there is not, does not make it true! Anyone can make an unsubstantiated claim.
pH is not a determinant for possibility or probability of cancers forming. They form equally well in acidic or alkaline environment.
=I agree. What do you claim I said to the contrary? I don't recall making such statements. pH does in fact control pleomorphic transformation. Don't get on the "scientific" kick. There is nothing "scientific" about modern medicine, its all guess work and is most often wrong. Such terms are used to cloak gross ignorance. I never said that cancer was an acidic condition. Never have and never will. Where did you get that from? It didn't come from me.
There's a lot of hype out there about becoming more alkaline - it's incorrect!
The body functions optimally at the correct pH of blood and body tissues . Not more acidic. Not more alkaline.
The optimal pH is likely close to pH of 7.4. At this pH the body has the most efficient absorption and use of nutrients. Symptoms of illness tend to show if pH is outside the range of 7.35 to 7.45.
(Some claimed experts say 7.365 is ideal; others claim 7.461 is optimal for absorbing nutrients - they do not say which nutrients - but that is above the pH at which symptoms of illness occur.)
The point it - Most illnesses cause skewing of the pH, either to more alkaline (resulting in up to 50% cancer rates) or to more acidic - also resulting in increased cancer rates though I do to know the percentage.
Until someone proves otherwise, I consider pH to be an indicator of health and metabolic balance or imbalance and not a precursor of any specific situation such as cancer.
=No, pH is the control mechanism for pleomorphism. Rife & Kendall proved this beyond any doubt. Metabolic and hormonal imbalance produces shifts in pH, that is true, but saliva and urine testing only indicate the state at the moment as it changes throughout the day due to many factors including but not limited to diet. A far better test is to measure the urine phosphorus to calcium ratio. I also cover that in my book. A pH of 7.461 is highly indicative of cancer or some other degenerative disease going on somewhere in the body.
Www.lulu.com/comdyne Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen