Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

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Sheri Nakken
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

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I and many others do NOT agree with this. I will post my info again. The key is to learn about the diseases and learn the reality and lose the fear of them.

Sheri

At 05:52 PM 2/25/2013, you wrote:


Sheri Nakken
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

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It doesn't matter whether they have fear - doesn't make so-called
homeopathic immunization work.
Key is to learn about the diseases so you don't have fear
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Maria Bohle
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

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Just for informational purposes:

My daughter was fully vaccinated as a child. However since I have become a homeopath she has received no more vaccinations and her children are not allopathically vaccinated either.

Daughter was a practicing Emergency Medical Technician for over 15 years. Her workplace demands the Hepatitis B vaccine. Daughter told them she already had gotten it, but didn't remember where she put the papers. They told her they would have to schedule her for a titre test. In the interim, she took a Hep B 200C nosode, a week or so later when she had her blood drawn the test indicated she had a high Hep B titre, the ambulance people felt she must have gotten the vaccine a few months before the test.

I also have a friend who raises dogs, vaccine free. She takes these dogs to dog shows and has several generations of very healthy dogs that do well in the shows.
This friend uses the vaccination nosodes the dogs are expected to have been vaccinated for - she tells me the titres indicate she has vaccinated, so we know the nosodes can trigger the immune system to respond.

Warmly, Maria
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From: "Sheri Nakken"
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:06:04 PM
Subject: [Minutus] Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden
It doesn't matter whether they have fear - doesn't make so-called
homeopathic immunization work.
Key is to learn about the diseases so you don't have fear
http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ &
http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases
Next classes start February 25 and March 7


Christine Wyndham-Thomas
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

Post by Christine Wyndham-Thomas »

If only we could do the same with microchips!
Regards
Christine


Maria Bohle
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

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The FDA just admitted recently that 90 or 94% of all vaccinations are ineffective,

but the mercury, formaldehyde and other preservatives are not ineffective, they can potentially cause lots of problems.
At least homeopathic prophylaxis doesn't inject foreign proteins and doesn't have the preservatives in it.

For parents that want some kind of protection, the nosodes seem to work well, and as Golden said, 'IF' the patient were to contract the disease a 200C of the nosode usually ended the problem.

warmly, Maria
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From: "Sheri Nakken"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com, "homeopathy open"
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:05:23 PM
Subject: [Minutus] Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden
I and many others do NOT agree with this. I will post my info again. The key is to learn about the diseases and learn the reality and lose the fear of them.

Sheri

At 05:52 PM 2/25/2013, you wrote:


Tanya Marquette
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

Post by Tanya Marquette »

this is really interesting
1. do you have a reference for the FDA admission of vaccine ineffectiveness?
2. are you saying that 1 dose of 200c would be the typical protocol to create titers
for any of the communicable diseases?
3. natural raising/raw feeding dog folks I know say that it takes 3 generations to
genetically undo the damage of vaccines in the original generation
4. and last, this could be the answer for dogs/cats whose owners need to deal with
local rabies vaccine requirements.
t
From: Maria Bohle
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:51 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

The FDA just admitted recently that 90 or 94% of all vaccinations are ineffective,

but the mercury, formaldehyde and other preservatives are not ineffective, they can potentially cause lots of problems.
At least homeopathic prophylaxis doesn't inject foreign proteins and doesn't have the preservatives in it.

For parents that want some kind of protection, the nosodes seem to work well, and as Golden said, 'IF' the patient were to contract the disease a 200C of the nosode usually ended the problem.

warmly, Maria
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From: "Sheri Nakken"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com, "homeopathy open"
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:05:23 PM
Subject: [Minutus] Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden
I and many others do NOT agree with this. I will post my info again. The key is to learn about the diseases and learn the reality and lose the fear of them.

Sheri

At 05:52 PM 2/25/2013, you wrote:


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Two points:

1. Isaac Golden has done HP with nosodes for over 20 years and to thousands of children: show me the problems, show me the corpses......on the contrary he has clearly demonstrated that HP children are a lot healthier than others, and he is not faking his results.

2. I N D I V I D U A L I S A T I O N is also valid for how each and every person has his/her/its immune system working, and we have no way to evaluate it.

Can I bother you again with personal experiences?
Heavily vaccinated as a child and apparently no bad reaction. Smallpox vaccination before traveling as a young teen, huge local reaction (3 times), then nothing until an internship in pediatrics: one morning I woke up with each and every single lymph node in my body swollen, but no general symptoms, so I go to the ward, showing that to the pediatrician who freaks out and sends me home after taking blood tests; by that time I was worried I had a sudden onset of Hodgkin's or some other horrific cancer; then I started feeling lousy and feverish, so I felt better, it was probably just viral....it was parainfluenza B, generally totally benign; go figure why I got it and why I created symptoms....anyway, that got me a few days off.

Then had to have repeated BCG (had it in school) for hospital work, nevertheless, despite the repeated injections, my Mantoux is still negative. No active or passive tuberculosis despite exposure to patients.

Later on in surgical specialisation, I was requested to have Hepatitis B vaccination as I was constantly in contact with blood and secretions. Not being completely stupid, I first checked for antibodies: nil; first injection, antibodies nil, not unexpected; second one, nil, hmmmm; third one, still nothing but by then I was administratively and "legally" "fully protected"....but I decided that having gone that far I would repeat the series; you guessed it, after 6 injections, no antibodies; fast forward, blood tests before NZ immigration, still nothing (and no HIV) despite having worked in ERs and surgery in Africa in endemic regions.

I sailed through a few bad epidemics (Mycoplasma, flus....) but succumbed to 2 of them, one overseas and one while taking a class in Wellington, realised afterwards that it was the famous bird flu....

So: totally random but my infections are never very serious, feels more like a kind of a "boot camp" when my immune system decides I need it....I seem to have good genetics, and I take good care of myself, so personally and for my family, I did not use any HP with the exception of meningitis B for the kids as it keeps creeping up here and it kills in a few hours.

I spend a lot of time with patients who ask, explaining about vaccines, HP, general health etc,..... but then I have to abide by the parent's wishes. Yes many are scared. I do trust Isaac and his statistical results, I am not worried at all by "too many nosodes" so I do use HP and I do not theorise on "baseless fear".

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

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The legal aspect is entirely separate from any considerations of effectiveness -- you'd need to find out whether it would be *legally* considered sufficient.


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

Post by Shannon Nelson »

The goals and effects of Golden's protocol are far different from those of conventional "immunization" and his 20-plus year study of the results on I-forget-how-many children seems to make a compelling case for its usefulness.

Sheri, have you read his study? Very interesting, and as I remember very thorough.

Shannon
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Subject: Homeopathic Immunisation: interviews with Dr Isaac Golden

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

"its a good way as a homeopath to have a guaranteed income from so many patients, I think."

That is a serious public accusation of unethical practice, bordering slander and defamation.

You are lucky we do not live in the same country.

And as of now all your emails are redirected immediately to trash.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com
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