If someone "naps" after eating, and especially after over-carbing, is
that more likely to be blood sugar being high, or going high and then
low?
Sometimes he has talked about dozing for basically an entire *day*
after a "pasta pigout." I'm guessing that is more apt to be diabetic?
Thanks,
Shannon
OT-blood sugar
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healthinfo6
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Re: OT-blood sugar
From my own experience, being diabetic now but carb senstive most of my life, it's not the sugar but the insulin release that causes the tiredness. Certain foods may have high carbs but don't cause as much insulin release for me as others which may be lower carb. So, some blueberries are worse for me than lots of corn chips and salsa, which actually lower my blood sugar and don't immediately make me tired as bliueberries do. That's an individual sensitivity that you can test out with a blood glucose meter.
You can search and read up on glycemic index and glycemic load of foods which show, generally, their effect on blood sugar vs. their absolute carb value. So, fiber has carbs, but is very low glycemic. Carrots are higher carb vegetable but lower glycemic index because of the fiber in them vs. drinking carrot juice.
Also, a starch, like pasta, metabolizes to sugar slower than eating fruit/fructose and foods with glucose/sucrose that raise blood sugar much faster.
The person you mention could have prediabetes, reactive hypoglycemia or becoming diabetic aleady. If fasting blood sugar is above 105, you're considered diabetic. The traditional 5-6 hour glucose tolerance test would show exactly how disordered the blood sugar metabolism is if not yet diabetic. You fast and then drink a Coke like sugar drink and blood is measured over 1/2 hour than hourly periods for 5 hours to show how you handle this glucose load. There are various graphs showing different types of hypoglycemia, some where blood sugar spikes up, then goes very low. Once diabetic, blood sugar goes high and stays high. An example is:
http://hypoglykemie.nl/gtt.htm
A more progressive MD would take insulin levels in addition to blood sugar ones. HIgh insulin levels generally are not good long term for health and can show how insulin resistant you may be. This means it takes more insulin for your cells to use glucose. Insulin resistance may also be an inherited trait that constituional homeopathy may help with.
Diabetes is the final stage of this blood sugar deterioration which mostly takes years. Allopathy usually only measures fasting blood sugar which can be normal until closer to diabetes. The GTT will show abnormalities years before, what actually is happening between the "normal" fasting values, as mine did when I was 17 but I didn't become diabetic until around 45 and I had "normal" fasting blood sugar until close to becoming diabetic. Inherited diabetes type 2 can happen even if following a no-carb ketogenic diet, as I had been. Thus, I have high blood sugar levels without eating any carbs.
Is sounds like your friend has blood sugar issues.
Susan
You can search and read up on glycemic index and glycemic load of foods which show, generally, their effect on blood sugar vs. their absolute carb value. So, fiber has carbs, but is very low glycemic. Carrots are higher carb vegetable but lower glycemic index because of the fiber in them vs. drinking carrot juice.
Also, a starch, like pasta, metabolizes to sugar slower than eating fruit/fructose and foods with glucose/sucrose that raise blood sugar much faster.
The person you mention could have prediabetes, reactive hypoglycemia or becoming diabetic aleady. If fasting blood sugar is above 105, you're considered diabetic. The traditional 5-6 hour glucose tolerance test would show exactly how disordered the blood sugar metabolism is if not yet diabetic. You fast and then drink a Coke like sugar drink and blood is measured over 1/2 hour than hourly periods for 5 hours to show how you handle this glucose load. There are various graphs showing different types of hypoglycemia, some where blood sugar spikes up, then goes very low. Once diabetic, blood sugar goes high and stays high. An example is:
http://hypoglykemie.nl/gtt.htm
A more progressive MD would take insulin levels in addition to blood sugar ones. HIgh insulin levels generally are not good long term for health and can show how insulin resistant you may be. This means it takes more insulin for your cells to use glucose. Insulin resistance may also be an inherited trait that constituional homeopathy may help with.
Diabetes is the final stage of this blood sugar deterioration which mostly takes years. Allopathy usually only measures fasting blood sugar which can be normal until closer to diabetes. The GTT will show abnormalities years before, what actually is happening between the "normal" fasting values, as mine did when I was 17 but I didn't become diabetic until around 45 and I had "normal" fasting blood sugar until close to becoming diabetic. Inherited diabetes type 2 can happen even if following a no-carb ketogenic diet, as I had been. Thus, I have high blood sugar levels without eating any carbs.
Is sounds like your friend has blood sugar issues.
Susan
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Re: OT-blood sugar
Thanks Susan, very comprehensive!
Yep, it sure sounds to me like he has blood sugar issues.
In addition to the "napping" (some of which sounds WAY beyond anything I would call a "nap"!) he has gone from rail-thin, to that familiar middle-aged pudge. Which I read *means* high blood sugar (when the waist measurement is greater than the hip measurement).
Okay, but it sounds like the sleep thing in itself isn't definitive... In itself could even be a digestive issue, tho I doubt it in this case. I'll have to think about how to approach it.
Well, thanks!
Shannon
Yep, it sure sounds to me like he has blood sugar issues.
In addition to the "napping" (some of which sounds WAY beyond anything I would call a "nap"!) he has gone from rail-thin, to that familiar middle-aged pudge. Which I read *means* high blood sugar (when the waist measurement is greater than the hip measurement).
Okay, but it sounds like the sleep thing in itself isn't definitive... In itself could even be a digestive issue, tho I doubt it in this case. I'll have to think about how to approach it.
Well, thanks!
Shannon
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Re: OT-blood sugar
At minimum, a fasting blood sugar test. Could also be wheat allergies. A wheat/gluten free pasta could be tried and aee if same sleepiness happens.
That familiar middle-aged pudge is described by Hahnemann as latent psora in Chronic Diseases,
Susan
That familiar middle-aged pudge is described by Hahnemann as latent psora in Chronic Diseases,
Susan
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Re: OT-blood sugar
Foods with high glycemic index cause this tiredness after consumption. Examples are white rice.
Low glycemic index food such as apples do not!
Pls see http://www.glycemicindex.com/
Soroush
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] OT-blood sugar
From my own experience, being diabetic now but carb senstive most of my life, it's not the sugar but the insulin release that causes the tiredness. Certain foods may have high carbs but don't cause as much insulin release for me as others which may be lower carb. So, some blueberries are worse for me than lots of corn chips and salsa, which actually lower my blood sugar and don't immediately make me tired as bliueberries do. That's an individual sensitivity that you can test out with a blood glucose meter.
You can search and read up on glycemic index and glycemic load of foods which show, generally, their effect on blood sugar vs. their absolute carb value. So, fiber has carbs, but is very low glycemic. Carrots are higher carb vegetable but lower glycemic index because of the fiber in them vs. drinking carrot juice.
Also, a starch, like pasta, metabolizes to sugar slower than eating fruit/fructose and foods with glucose/sucrose that raise blood sugar much faster.
The person you mention could have prediabetes, reactive hypoglycemia or becoming diabetic aleady. If fasting blood sugar is above 105, you're considered diabetic. The traditional 5-6 hour glucose tolerance test would show exactly how disordered the blood sugar metabolism is if not yet diabetic. You fast and then drink a Coke like sugar drink and blood is measured over 1/2 hour than hourly periods for 5 hours to show how you handle this glucose load. There are various graphs showing different types of hypoglycemia, some where blood sugar spikes up, then goes very low. Once diabetic, blood sugar goes high and stays high. An example is:
http://hypoglykemie.nl/gtt.htm
A more progressive MD would take insulin levels in addition to blood sugar ones. HIgh insulin levels generally are not good long term for health and can show how insulin resistant you may be. This means it takes more insulin for your cells to use glucose. Insulin resistance may also be an inherited trait that constituional homeopathy may help with.
Diabetes is the final stage of this blood sugar deterioration which mostly takes years. Allopathy usually only measures fasting blood sugar which can be normal until closer to diabetes. The GTT will show abnormalities years before, what actually is happening between the "normal" fasting values, as mine did when I was 17 but I didn't become diabetic until around 45 and I had "normal" fasting blood sugar until close to becoming diabetic. Inherited diabetes type 2 can happen even if following a no-carb ketogenic diet, as I had been. Thus, I have high blood sugar levels without eating any carbs.
Is sounds like your friend has blood sugar issues.
Susan
Low glycemic index food such as apples do not!
Pls see http://www.glycemicindex.com/
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of healthyinfo6@aol.com
Sent: 21 June 2012 11:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] OT-blood sugar
From my own experience, being diabetic now but carb senstive most of my life, it's not the sugar but the insulin release that causes the tiredness. Certain foods may have high carbs but don't cause as much insulin release for me as others which may be lower carb. So, some blueberries are worse for me than lots of corn chips and salsa, which actually lower my blood sugar and don't immediately make me tired as bliueberries do. That's an individual sensitivity that you can test out with a blood glucose meter.
You can search and read up on glycemic index and glycemic load of foods which show, generally, their effect on blood sugar vs. their absolute carb value. So, fiber has carbs, but is very low glycemic. Carrots are higher carb vegetable but lower glycemic index because of the fiber in them vs. drinking carrot juice.
Also, a starch, like pasta, metabolizes to sugar slower than eating fruit/fructose and foods with glucose/sucrose that raise blood sugar much faster.
The person you mention could have prediabetes, reactive hypoglycemia or becoming diabetic aleady. If fasting blood sugar is above 105, you're considered diabetic. The traditional 5-6 hour glucose tolerance test would show exactly how disordered the blood sugar metabolism is if not yet diabetic. You fast and then drink a Coke like sugar drink and blood is measured over 1/2 hour than hourly periods for 5 hours to show how you handle this glucose load. There are various graphs showing different types of hypoglycemia, some where blood sugar spikes up, then goes very low. Once diabetic, blood sugar goes high and stays high. An example is:
http://hypoglykemie.nl/gtt.htm
A more progressive MD would take insulin levels in addition to blood sugar ones. HIgh insulin levels generally are not good long term for health and can show how insulin resistant you may be. This means it takes more insulin for your cells to use glucose. Insulin resistance may also be an inherited trait that constituional homeopathy may help with.
Diabetes is the final stage of this blood sugar deterioration which mostly takes years. Allopathy usually only measures fasting blood sugar which can be normal until closer to diabetes. The GTT will show abnormalities years before, what actually is happening between the "normal" fasting values, as mine did when I was 17 but I didn't become diabetic until around 45 and I had "normal" fasting blood sugar until close to becoming diabetic. Inherited diabetes type 2 can happen even if following a no-carb ketogenic diet, as I had been. Thus, I have high blood sugar levels without eating any carbs.
Is sounds like your friend has blood sugar issues.
Susan