Sub molecular remedy imprints in homeopathy

[jtikari]

Homeopathy remedies to 3c+ are already molecular. Succussion beyond 12c makes them submolocular when even molecules are not present. If you are interested I can give you the link where you can discuss it.
Jeff
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[Shannon Nelson]

So you are saying that "the remedies of tomorrow" will all be ultra-low potency, 3c and below?
I'm trying to understand what you are saying here...

Thanks, I would be interested to see the link!
Shannon

[geo]

You mean we should use low potencies for in higher then C-12 there are no
more physical molecules in the "mixture"?
This has been extensively tested. In low potencies the primary action of the
remedy is too strong and interferes with the secondary action of the
organism.
Also... basic experimentation shows us that there is no need for any
molecules to be present in the remedy for it to act.
To question this is to question homeopathy in its basic fundamental
principles. Maybe what you have in mind is some kind of a new system - I am
not sure...
-geo-
Homeopathy remedies to 3c+ are already molecular. Succussion beyond 12c
makes them submolocular when even molecules are not present. If you are
interested I can give you the link where you can discuss it.

Jeff
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[jtikari]

Exactly the opposite -geo-. Molecular imprints are what is desired i.e above 12c generally. Some low weight molocules survive even beyond to around 23c and so 30c would be the best bet.
Jeff

[jtikari]

http://dialecticalohmeopathy.wordpress.com/
Shanon go to the above link.
Jeff

[jtikari]

-geo- go to: http://dialecticalohmeopathy.wordpress.com/
for a clearer understanding.
Jeff

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Jeff
We are often told that with the dilutions involved, there are no molecules left.
Why is that Uranium 60 C still shows signs of radioactivity?
And why is that when I bought my plutonium 30 and 200 C from Helios, it came separate to the other remedies I had ordered at the same time and wrapped in a few layers of aluminium foil.

When I queried, they said that they had found that the plut had affected other remedies in its vicinity.
The dynamic effect of potentisation is not simple to explain.

If you take two bottle of a liquid that has a bouquet, empty 1/3 of one and succuss it and then compare the bouquet, you will find that the smell is different. It is as if something has become alive in it!
Next question - How many angles can dance on the tip of a pin!
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jtikari
Sent: 01 June 2012 14:38
To: Mintus Group
Subject: [Minutus] Sub molecular remedy imprints in homeopathy
Homeopathy remedies to 3c+ are already molecular. Succussion beyond 12c makes them submolocular when even molecules are not present. If you are interested I can give you the link where you can discuss it.
Jeff

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[geo]

I see... Cool. That is sort of what we all are doing here :>))
-geo-

-----Mensagem Original-----
From: jtikari
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:17 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sub molecular remedy imprints in homeopathy

Exactly the opposite -geo-. Molecular imprints are what is desired i.e above
12c generally. Some low weight molocules survive even beyond to around 23c
and so 30c would be the best bet.
Jeff

[geo]

Sorry Jeff.... right now that is jsut too long for me. Maybe some other
time.
-geo-

-----Mensagem Original-----
From: jtikari
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:35 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sub molecular remedy imprints in homeopathy

-geo- go to: http://dialecticalohmeopathy.wordpress.com/
for a clearer understanding.

Jeff

[healthinfo6]

The author has many interesting, less techie, thought provoking articles on that site, one trashes Sankaran and basically is saying LEARN the basics and stop looking for a new guru to follow:
Some friends have expressed their apprehension that criticizing wrong theories and practices happening in homeopathy in public will harm the good will and reputation of our community and our therapeutic system.
I do not subscribe to that view. All these ‘wrong things’ in homeopathy are done and promoted by their propagators in public, with out any concern about the harm they are doing, through articles, books, interviews and seminars all over the world, making homeopathy a topic of unending mockery before the scientific community. All these things are already known to general public better than homeopaths themselves.
These people have already done enough damage to homeopathy through their unscientific theories and nonsense practices. They supply arms and ammunition to skeptics to attack homeopathy. There is no meaning in covering up this dirt. Public dirt should be washed in public, to get the lost reputation and credibility of homeopathy back.
If homeopathic community continue let these people go like this, we cannot even dream about making homeopathy a scientific medical system, and get it recognized as such even in a far distant future.
In his Homeopathic Links interview, Vithoulkas says: “Sankaran alone has done more harm to homeopathy than all the enemies of homeopathy together.”
Andre Saine writes on his website: “Sankaran demonstrated several basic errors of methodology and reasoning in his example of how he ‘discovers’ a remedy”
How would the followers of Sankaran respond to these statements?
Collect all mentals, physical generals and particular symptoms of your patient, with all qualifications such as causations, sensations, locations, modalities and concomitants. Then grade the symptoms into uncommon, common, mental, physical general and particulars. Then repertorize. Compare the materia medica of drugs coming top in repertorization, and decide a similimum. That is the simple way of homeopathic practice- and the most successful way.
If a drug is similimum according to totality of symptoms, it does not matter whether that drug belongs to animal, mineral or plant kingdoms. It does not matter to which ‘sub kingdom’ or ‘family’ the drug belongs. Such a knowledge does not make any difference in your similimum.
Selecting similimum is most important in homeopathy. Similarity of symptoms is our guide in selecting similimum. All these talk about ‘kingdoms’, sub kingdoms, families and such things only contribute in making homeopathy complex, and confuse the young homeopaths. It may help in creating an aura around the teacher, which would attract people to seminars. That is not a silly thing, where money matters above homeopathy!
http://dialecticalohmeopathy.wordpress. ... an-method/
Susan