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jtikari
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Re: Potencies

Post by jtikari »

If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you - but I've had my fill with this discussion.
Jeff


geo
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Re: Potencies

Post by geo »

It's kind of funny to see you respond emotionally to a purely technical
stuff.
-geo-

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From: jtikari
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:37 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are
kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the
stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies
and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you -
but I've had my fill with this discussion.

Jeff


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Potencies

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

No - only the near potencies are kept.
For example 10 & 11, 28 & 29, 198 and 199 etc.
Hope you are clear now!
Best wishes

Soroush
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Sent: 15 May 2012 13:37
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you - but I've had my fill with this discussion.
Jeff


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Potencies

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
 
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Potencies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

As I remember, it has to do with volume of water moving at said velocity through volume of space, something like that, and that the "settings" were determined experientially. According to the person giving the lecture, some people feel they find that fluxion potencies do not behave *exactly* like the same in CH -- surprise -- but by at least standardizing what the fluxion products are *called*, we make it work. (Sorry, dim memory of dim memory...)

Michael Quinn, head of Hahnemann Labs > used to be *wonderful* about providing answers about remedy making. I hope the lab since his death has someone who can continue that tradition, because he was a marvelous information source.

If you are curious enough, ask them! (I'm curious so I would ask, but at this point the information overload would probably kill me... :-) )

Shannon
OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Potencies

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Lynn Cremona
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Re: Potencies

Post by Lynn Cremona »

Michael Quinn's Lab used a Korsakoff machine. The Fluxion process is not approved by the FDA or HPUS

Everyone probably has the information Julian Winston posted on his website, if not here is the address

http://www.julianwinston.com/archives/f ... iation.php
Lynn
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That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Potencies

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Exactly.......nobody knows what a fluxion potency really is in CH scale......
Quinn start potentisation by hand for the first 15 potencies, according to their website, then switches to K.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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geo
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Re: Potencies

Post by geo »

I agree with you. So, when it comes to potencies above 200 and including it.... we are dealing with something of its own nature, probably quite unrelated to CH dinamizations.
-geo-
From: Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:17 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com


Dale Moss
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Re: Potencies

Post by Dale Moss »

Despite the sorely-missed absence of Michael Quinn, Hahnemann Labs continues to offer good advice on altering remedy potencies. I haven't yet inquired about making remedies from scratch.
Peace,
Dale
OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com


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