Potencies
Re: Potencies
If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you - but I've had my fill with this discussion.
Jeff
Jeff
Re: Potencies
It's kind of funny to see you respond emotionally to a purely technical
stuff.
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From: jtikari
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:37 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are
kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the
stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies
and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you -
but I've had my fill with this discussion.
Jeff
stuff.
-geo-
-----Mensagem Original-----
From: jtikari
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:37 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are
kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the
stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies
and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you -
but I've had my fill with this discussion.
Jeff
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Potencies
No - only the near potencies are kept.
For example 10 & 11, 28 & 29, 198 and 199 etc.
Hope you are clear now!
Best wishes
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jtikari
Sent: 15 May 2012 13:37
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you - but I've had my fill with this discussion.
Jeff
For example 10 & 11, 28 & 29, 198 and 199 etc.
Hope you are clear now!
Best wishes
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jtikari
Sent: 15 May 2012 13:37
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
If you are trying to tell me that all potencies between 12C and 200 C are kept stored, then you can believe what you like. I am talking about the stuff that has to be discarded. No pharma can store all in-between potencies and if you are suggesting that nothing is discarded, well that's up to you - but I've had my fill with this discussion.
Jeff
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Potencies
OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
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Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
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Re: Potencies
As I remember, it has to do with volume of water moving at said velocity through volume of space, something like that, and that the "settings" were determined experientially. According to the person giving the lecture, some people feel they find that fluxion potencies do not behave *exactly* like the same in CH -- surprise -- but by at least standardizing what the fluxion products are *called*, we make it work. (Sorry, dim memory of dim memory...)
Michael Quinn, head of Hahnemann Labs > used to be *wonderful* about providing answers about remedy making. I hope the lab since his death has someone who can continue that tradition, because he was a marvelous information source.
If you are curious enough, ask them! (I'm curious so I would ask, but at this point the information overload would probably kill me...
)
Shannon
OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
Michael Quinn, head of Hahnemann Labs > used to be *wonderful* about providing answers about remedy making. I hope the lab since his death has someone who can continue that tradition, because he was a marvelous information source.
If you are curious enough, ask them! (I'm curious so I would ask, but at this point the information overload would probably kill me...
Shannon
OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Re: Potencies
That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
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How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
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Re: Potencies
Michael Quinn's Lab used a Korsakoff machine. The Fluxion process is not approved by the FDA or HPUS
Everyone probably has the information Julian Winston posted on his website, if not here is the address
http://www.julianwinston.com/archives/f ... iation.php
Lynn
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That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
Everyone probably has the information Julian Winston posted on his website, if not here is the address
http://www.julianwinston.com/archives/f ... iation.php
Lynn
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That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Potencies
Exactly.......nobody knows what a fluxion potency really is in CH scale......
Quinn start potentisation by hand for the first 15 potencies, according to their website, then switches to K.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Quinn start potentisation by hand for the first 15 potencies, according to their website, then switches to K.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
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Re: Potencies
I agree with you. So, when it comes to potencies above 200 and including it.... we are dealing with something of its own nature, probably quite unrelated to CH dinamizations.
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From: Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:17 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
-geo-
From: Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:17 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Potencies
That is the usual answer I receive, including from the labs albeit in more details........but nobody has ever been able to tell HOW the determination of a potency made by fluxion has been done....experimentally??? Based on what???
How can somebody claim, and then use a 1M/fluxion and say it is a 1000CH?
Fluxion remedies do work, but the bottom line is that nobody knows what potency is used...
Joe.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
Re: Potencies
Despite the sorely-missed absence of Michael Quinn, Hahnemann Labs continues to offer good advice on altering remedy potencies. I haven't yet inquired about making remedies from scratch.
Peace,
Dale
OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
Peace,
Dale
OK, I have got to ask, because that is something I never understood and never found an explanation in the literature: how do you determine a potency with fluxion?
Looking forward to some clarification, please.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

