Can I give Ignatia Amara 200K at the same time with Amylium Nitrosis 200K ?

[Sheri Nakken]

NOOOOOOOOOOO
Please just give ONE remedy that matches the whole symptom picture.............
Homeopathy is not like allopathy which gives one drug for this and another for that.
I think Edouard was being facetious? Joking? Pulling your leg?

Sheri

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[Sheltiekriebels]

I don't know much about Klassik homeopathy that is why I ask here. So making a joke with it. I think that is so very low.
Jacqueline

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Jacqueline
I am sorry about the jokes - we get similar questions every so often so some colleagues have lost patience.
In my view, homeopathy is no joking matter - but sometimes, a joke can drive the point home.
Sheri's response is excellent:

" Please just give ONE remedy that matches the whole symptom picture.............
Homeopathy is not like allopathy which gives one drug for this and another for that."
Another colleague had sent a msg (was filtered off by me) that because the potencies are above 12C there will not be any interaction between the remedies. This is WRONG and what he was over looking is that each remedy reacts with the vital force of the patient and not with each other. The aim should therefore be to find the remedy (Similimum) that matches the relevant totality of the patient's presenting symptoms.
Unfortunately some colleagues treat potentised substance like conventional medicine, take this for your headache, this for your constipation, this for your joint pains and … No - a good homeopath will find a remedy that has all those symptoms covered.
Hope this has helped.
Rgds

Soroush

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I don't know much about Klassik homeopathy that is why I ask here. So making a joke with it. I think that is so very low.
Jacqueline

[Lora]

Jacqueline has a serious concern about her pet. What kind of professional would joke about someone's health? Very inappropriate and rude. Knowledge is power so remember it is more important to educate than criticize another practitioner. I am very tired of the sarcasm and bashing that is here. Let's not forget the 1st aphorism- The physician's high and ONLY mission is to restore the sick to health, to cure, as it is termed.
I would start with the Ignatia if the picture fits and observe how the dog reacts.
Lora

[Edouard Broussalian]

Sometimes being facetious is all that is left...... LOL
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NOOOOOOOOOOO
Please just give ONE remedy that matches the whole symptom picture.............
Homeopathy is not like allopathy which gives one drug for this and another for that.
I think Edouard was being facetious? Joking? Pulling your leg?

Sheri

At 04:05 PM 3/13/2012, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases
Next classes start March 15 & 20 & 22

[Edouard Broussalian]

Of course was making fun of the vet, not of you!

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I don't know much about Klassik homeopathy that is why I ask here. So making a joke with it. I think that is so very low.
Jacqueline

[Shannon Nelson]

It's an especially difficult situation because we do have / have had participants here who do on occasion give more than one remedy at a time, and it's been a source of... let's just say a source of tension and dissent, in the past. Sorry, Jacqueline, that you caught some of the effects of that. No harm was meant...

Shannon

[healthinfo6]

There's more to this which needs exploration...
I've taken LM antipsoric while on 200C antimiasmatic and both worked, but not taking at same time.
I've antidoted 200C with another 200C a few times when the remedy was incorrect or causing problems or action completed and taking extra caused problem.
I've taken X, low C potenicies while on 200C and both worked without antidoting.
As we discussed about combo remedies on mail list, the vital force may seem to know which one to use in a combo when needed and disregard the others as Rosemary discovered.
I have a bad cold and took ColdCalm, a Boiron combo of 8 or more 6C potencies. Each remedy is for a different phase/symptom of a cold. It seemed to help and not antidote the antipsoric LM I'm on right now. But I didn't take it for each stage of cold every day. Tried taking Belladonna 6C which is in the combo, seperately as it seemed the right remedy that day but not sure if that did anything but it didn't antidote the LM I'm on. I didn't take LM same day as Belladonna but the LM action wasn't interrupted as it lasts for about 5 days and I wouild have felt so if it did.
It's possible both 200Cs are needed for this pet and if taken apart, their action can work at same time, but I wouldn't take both on same day.
As I await my freshly prepared LM2-20 Medh from Helios to arrive, I will be experimenting as to if it's possible to use both an antimiasmatic LM and antispsoric LM for two dissimilar inherited chronic diseases at same time. Since the Medh 200C lowered my blood sugar dramatically on each dose but not lasting besides other wonderful improvements, the LM Medh gives hope of doing so daily besides reversing inherited diabetes. I already know the LM antispsoric is curing bipolar but the antimiasmatic doesn't, whether two remedies of same potency can work simultaneously is yet to be shown, but I'll easily know as I'm familiar with their actions and my symptoms.
My current thinking is may have to alternate LMs per week, or resort to LM/200C mix as different potencies may work simultaneously but not sure if same potencies will. Or if an LM2 of one and LM10 of the other at same time can coexist and work since I'm at different points for each.
Susan

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Susan
With you acting both as patient and prescriber things can get rather confused.
Please note well that when you are taking an LM for chronic symptoms, if an acute develops you should stop the chronic treatment, get the acute resolved and then go back. Indeed the acute remedy may give one a good indication as whether the chronic remedy may need changing. Clearly therefore, it would be an absolute folly to confuse the analysis by resorting to a combo and then not knowing what worked and what did not.
Do not forget that Hahnemann had tried all of these schemes and learnt from them and has given us the resultant golden nuggets in the Organon. Do not throw them away.
Best wishes

Soroush
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There's more to this which needs exploration...
I've taken LM antipsoric while on 200C antimiasmatic and both worked, but not taking at same time.

I've antidoted 200C with another 200C a few times when the remedy was incorrect or causing problems or action completed and taking extra caused problem.

I've taken X, low C potenicies while on 200C and both worked without antidoting.
As we discussed about combo remedies on mail list, the vital force may seem to know which one to use in a combo when needed and disregard the others as Rosemary discovered.
I have a bad cold and took ColdCalm, a Boiron combo of 8 or more 6C potencies. Each remedy is for a different phase/symptom of a cold. It seemed to help and not antidote the antipsoric LM I'm on right now. But I didn't take it for each stage of cold every day. Tried taking Belladonna 6C which is in the combo, seperately as it seemed the right remedy that day but not sure if that did anything but it didn't antidote the LM I'm on. I didn't take LM same day as Belladonna but the LM action wasn't interrupted as it lasts for about 5 days and I wouild have felt so if it did.
It's possible both 200Cs are needed for this pet and if taken apart, their action can work at same time, but I wouldn't take both on same day.
As I await my freshly prepared LM2-20 Medh from Helios to arrive, I will be experimenting as to if it's possible to use both an antimiasmatic LM and antispsoric LM for two dissimilar inherited chronic diseases at same time. Since the Medh 200C lowered my blood sugar dramatically on each dose but not lasting besides other wonderful improvements, the LM Medh gives hope of doing so daily besides reversing inherited diabetes. I already know the LM antispsoric is curing bipolar but the antimiasmatic doesn't, whether two remedies of same potency can work simultaneously is yet to be shown, but I'll easily know as I'm familiar with their actions and my symptoms.
My current thinking is may have to alternate LMs per week, or resort to LM/200C mix as different potencies may work simultaneously but not sure if same potencies will. Or if an LM2 of one and LM10 of the other at same time can coexist and work since I'm at different points for each.
Susan

[Sheltiekriebels]

Thank you Sorous for you're message. It is a good response from Sheri's. But I think the sitiuation is complex. Mitochondrial disorders are very rare, no one knows what is going to happen next. Normally you don't give remedy's their whole life, with a mithochondrial Disorder you start with a remedy and you can't stop. Or else it is going wrong right away.

My dogs have lost 4 dogs in 1 1/2 years. I have 4 left with an mitochondrial disorder. The others who died were 15, 14 1/2, 14 and 12 years old. And I think that the change was to much for them, this triggerd the mitochondrial Encephalopathy. Normally they don't have a relapse in winter. Only in summer, because than it is getting warmer and warmer means, that theyre body's responsing in neurological symptoms and somethimes overheating. But this time when winter was falling in, I had 2 more dogs with neurological symptoms. This is why the Holistic vet prescribed Ignatia Amara 200K (to stop this proces) And for the mitochondrial Encephalopathy the Amylium Nitrosis 200K. But the weather is changing hard, so from -15*C in 6 weeks to probably the end of the week 18*C or 20*C degrees and I am certain if this happens than my girls would be having so much problems, because the change is to big, that is why I wanted to know if I can start both remedy's. Normally I would not do that toghetter, but the weather is their biggest enemy! But they need now for 3 weeks the Ignatia Amara to stop the process that triggerd their mitochondrial Encephalopathy again.
Jacqueline