Potentizing Machines

[Lynn Cremona]

Here are a few other articles and sites on remedy potentizing machines

from Hpathy.com :
http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-pharmacolo ... ies/print/
from Julian Winston's site:
Faces Of Homeopathy by Julian Winston (pages 100-102)
Santee Potentizer, Burdick Potentizer
From JW Website:
http://www.julianwinston.com/archives/index.php

http://julianwinston.com/archives/ek/ek ... ntizer.php
Kent Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/sk ... zer_bt.php

http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/sk ... ntizer.php
Skinner Potentizer
http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/bo ... ntizer.php
Boericke and his machine

http://julianwinston.com/archives/ek/ek ... ntizer.php
Allen Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/finck ... iation.php
Fincke Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/swan/ ... method.php
Swan Potentizer
A Brief History of Potentizing Machines, by Julian Winston Article
British Homeopathic Journal, April 1989:
http://www.homeoint.org/kotok/pdfs/brie ... potent.pdf
Faces Of Homeopathy by Julian Winston (pages 100-102)
Santee Potentizer, Burdick Potentizer
from Ainsworth's site
http://www.ainsworths.com/company/aboutus.aspx

from Remedia's site
Korsakoff and Flux Potentizers
http://www.remedia-homeopathy.com/homeopathy/Movies.htm l

Lynn
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[Edouard Broussalian]

Wonderful! Thanks!

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De : Lynn Cremona
À : minutus@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Vendredi 6 Mai 2011 23h41
Objet : [Minutus] Re:Potentizing Machines
Here are a few other articles and sites on remedy potentizing machines

from Hpathy.com :
http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-pharmacolo ... ies/print/
from Julian Winston's site:

Faces Of Homeopathy by Julian Winston (pages 100-102)
Santee Potentizer, Burdick Potentizer
From JW Website:
http://www.julianwinston.com/archives/index.php

http://julianwinston.com/archives/ek/ek ... ntizer.php
Kent Potentizer
http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/sk ... zer_bt.php
http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/sk ... ntizer.php
Skinner Potentizer
http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/bo ... ntizer.php
Boericke and his machine

http://julianwinston.com/archives/ek/ek ... ntizer.php
Allen Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/finck ... iation.php
Fincke Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/swan/ ... method.php
Swan Potentizer
A Brief History of Potentizing Machines, by Julian Winston Article
British Homeopathic Journal, April 1989:
http://www.homeoint.org/kotok/pdfs/brie ... potent.pdf
Faces Of Homeopathy by Julian Winston (pages 100-102)
Santee Potentizer, Burdick Potentizer
from Ainsworth's site
http://www.ainsworths.com/company/aboutus.aspx

from Remedia's site
Korsakoff and Flux Potentizers
http://www.remedia-homeopathy.com/homeopathy/Movies.htm l

Lynn
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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Many years ago at the beginning of my professional life I was going to buy one of these machines and consulted with Sheilagh Creasy.
She strongly warned me off them and advised that she suspected them for causing cancers in homeopaths.
In my mind, it is too big a risk to take. I have stuck to remedies from well known homeopathic pharmacies.
Soroush
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Sent: 07 May 2011 04:58
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Subject: Re : [Minutus] Re:Potentizing Machines
Wonderful! Thanks!
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De : Lynn Cremona
À : minutus@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Vendredi 6 Mai 2011 23h41
Objet : [Minutus] Re:Potentizing Machines
Here are a few other articles and sites on remedy potentizing machines

from Hpathy.com :
http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-pharmacolo ... ies/print/
from Julian Winston's site:

Faces Of Homeopathy by Julian Winston (pages 100-102)
Santee Potentizer, Burdick Potentizer

From JW Website:
http://www.julianwinston.com/archives/index.php

http://julianwinston.com/archives/ek/ek ... ntizer.php
Kent Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/sk ... zer_bt.php

http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/sk ... ntizer.php
Skinner Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/bt/bo ... ntizer.php
Boericke and his machine

http://julianwinston.com/archives/ek/ek ... ntizer.php
Allen Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/finck ... iation.php
Fincke Potentizer

http://julianwinston.com/archives/swan/ ... method.php
Swan Potentizer
A Brief History of Potentizing Machines, by Julian Winston Article
British Homeopathic Journal, April 1989:
http://www.homeoint.org/kotok/pdfs/brie ... potent.pdf

Faces Of Homeopathy by Julian Winston (pages 100-102)
Santee Potentizer, Burdick Potentizer
from Ainsworth's site
http://www.ainsworths.com/company/aboutus.aspx

from Remedia's site
Korsakoff and Flux Potentizers
http://www.remedia-homeopathy.com/homeopathy/Movies.htm l

Lynn
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De : Jean Doherty
À : minutus@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Jeudi 5 Mai 2011 13h56
Objet : Re: [Minutus] LIPPE
That was great. Can you post to Minutus also or must we join Twitter.
Thank you, Jean
Today an historical paper by Skinner on his Fluxion potentizer, and a rare picture of the machine.

http://bit.ly/kAYKlB

It's easier to follow no twitter as i think the List is not intended for the purpose of announcing papers

Best

Ed
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[Tanya Marquette]

What is the experience or evidence for Creasy saying this?
There are numerous radionics machines available today
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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Purely her observation of colleagues who had such machines and had developed / died of cancer.
Whether this observation is statistically valid is another matter.
However, this observation/advice by Sheilagh was sufficient for me to leave such machines alone.
If such machines can produce remedies, they should be able to differentiate one remedy from another. That is to say Nux-v from Bell for example or Nux-v 30 from Nux-v 200. Can they do it?
Rgds

Soroush
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What is the experience or evidence for Creasy saying this?
There are numerous radionics machines available today
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[Tanya Marquette]

Actually they can differentiate. Rife used a unit he built that was incredibly successful.
Today radionic units run a range of capacity. For most of them there are frequency codes for
hundreds of our remedies. Further, you can place a substance on the unit and it will read its
frequency and duplicate it in a bottle of water, for example. I have been given remedies made
on these machines that seem to be working. There biggest weakness it seems is that the
remedies don't have long shelf life. They are given with advisory to use within 3-4 months.
And that is fine in many circumstances.
I would think that an EMF device could pick up frequencies being given off to begin to
evaluate this judgement of Creasey's. And given that cancer is such a scourge today, it
would be necessary to do a comparative look at the rate of cancer in non-machine users
vs those who do use them. Wouldn't you think?
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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

That is why I said that it could be the observation may not be statistically valid.
But as no such study has been done, the safest course for me is to listen to the advice given by a master (mistress) of homeopathy.
I await the results of your research.
Soroush
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Sent: 07 May 2011 11:53
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Actually they can differentiate. Rife used a unit he built that was incredibly successful.
Today radionic units run a range of capacity. For most of them there are frequency codes for

hundreds of our remedies. Further, you can place a substance on the unit and it will read its

frequency and duplicate it in a bottle of water, for example. I have been given remedies made

on these machines that seem to be working. There biggest weakness it seems is that the

remedies don't have long shelf life. They are given with advisory to use within 3-4 months.

And that is fine in many circumstances.
I would think that an EMF device could pick up frequencies being given off to begin to

evaluate this judgement of Creasey's. And given that cancer is such a scourge today, it

would be necessary to do a comparative look at the rate of cancer in non-machine users

vs those who do use them. Wouldn't you think?
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[Lynn Cremona]

The articles I shared were about RemedyPotentizing Machines, some of which are used by all of the homeopathic pharmacies in lieu of hand succussing to the higher potencies. What you are referring to are Radionic Machines are a form of psychotronic device‑‑ i.e., a sophisticated dowsing device used by some to determine which remedy to use, or used to replicate remedies ....totally different from the machines like the ones used by our pharmacies.

It has been found that Radionically made potencies tend to have a very short shelf life and their effect don't hold well with patients.
If we don't support our homeopathic pharmacies by purchasing our remedies from them they will cease to exist for us.
There are companies out there (ie Celletech, aka National Homeopathic, Biomed, and Micro Nutrition Plus.) who make their remedies radionically, caveat emptor !

Lynn
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Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:14 AM
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[Ellen Madono]

Hi,

I met a man in Taiwan the other day who is using machine made frequencies of different tissues, diseased I think because he is looking for levels of pathology. He puts the bottle that is charged with the frequency on a metal plate. He has a battery operated sensor that he touches to the px's finger. He gets a numerical reading from the px (through an electronic sensor) and looks to see the degree that the reading matches the px frequency. I guess he is reading the identity of a "remedy"= frequency in the px. He gets a numerical reading (1-50, 30-40 being normal). He is also looking for organ function levels. He goes through about 30 broad tissue samples. Once he gets a poorly functioning organ (hyper or hypo according to the reading), he goes to another set (box of frequencies in water) of tissue samples frequencies looking for the specific type of pathology (not healthy frequency) for specific organs. He says his boxes are very sensitive to other frequencies (eg., a computer), and not that they lose potency from age. I heard that the homeopathic program Isis makes sound potencies so I am totally at sea with all of this. His work makes me think back to what I read from an older (now probably not alive) homeopath woman (Hulda Clark) living in the northern Midwest. She was chased around and ended up having a clinic in Mexico. She was looking for flukes and any number of diseased tissue types.

He follows his findings of px weaknesses or disease with homeopathic remedies possibly from the radionics machine. He appears to be using recipe combination remedies because he does not know anything about repertories. Apparently, this information was handed to him from a Chinese who studied in England. He knows the Organon and Chronic Diseases because they are translated into Chinese.
The testing part makes sense to me, but what do others think? He is certainly exposing himself to disease frequencies. But, I thought if we do not resonate with a frequency, there is no reaction. Using a nosode ect., is not going to give you that disease. A confusion of frequencies may be another issue. But any time I go to my large collection of remedies, I am exposed to a huge confusion of frequencies. After all sensitive people feel the frequency just holding the body.

The man had been very unhealthy when he started this work 15 years ago. Now he seems fairly healthy at age 80 but I could see cataracts in his eyes. Seems rather normal. Mind was very lively. I guess I should ask about cancer. They do a lot of Chinese energy medicine (chigong) so it would be hard to judge what is causing what. They did chigong on me and it was really effective.

Would like to hear if anyone knows about this method.

Blessings,
Ellen
finrod@finrod.co.uk
Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:14 AM

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Those of us who practice Qigong medicine, Reiki, Pranic Healing and other of those purely energetic hands on methods are warned and taught to protect themselves from absorbing the pathological energy of our patients and/or how to cleanse from it.
Feeling the musculo-skeletal imbalances or the organ motility when practicing ortho-bionomy or visceral manipulation is also an "energetic" reading and I do know from personal experience the overload that a teaching session can lead to when jumping from one allegedly healthy colleague to another to check and "treat".
But that is direct transmission of dissonant energy form one human being to another, like contagion during an epidemic...you get it anyway, it is how you deal with it that makes you sick or not. You know the story, when you feel totally drained after a consultation, your patient is an "energetic vampire".... We must learn how to recognise them and deal with the "Vampirism".
Homeopathy is energy medicine too, so if you manipulate lots of remedies all the time, like in a pharmacy, you will be "exposed"; yet most of the time the remedies are bottled and I would suppose that the summation of all minimal vibrations eventually neutralises itself.
It might (note my writing might) not be the same with a radionic machine where the is no "shielding" and it might emit full blast in all directions, giving overexposure...it is a theory , OK, not something I postulate as being true.
We tend to underestimate the power of energy we cannot measure; we should not, seriously.
Ellen, you are an Aikido practitioner like myself.... You know what you can do with "Kokyu-Nage"...the technique must be good, but if you do it without Qi/energy, you know it will not work.
Incorrect energy form an incorrect remedy = nothing happens; same wrong energy repeated continuously = proving or worse, grafting with disease difficult to treat....
Did I somehow answer or confuse????
Joe.
 
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