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Jacqueline
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Re: Dog, mitochondrial disorder, Glonoine D30/C30

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Hello all,
Just have a question. One of my dogs has a Mitochondrial Encephalopathy.

She does get Glonoine D30 in winter, because if she has Glonoine C30 in winter she got to cold. From both she does get 1 granule as Daily dosage.
Only with the Glonoine D30 she has Epileptic seizures in series. 2 in 6 weeks, with 3 days in between (moaning all days in between, moaning stops after 2nd seizure)
The Glonoine C30 (1 granule a day) in summer helps her to 1 seizure in the 6 weeks. Now we were thinking, is it better to give her 1 granule A day, or 1 granule in the 2 days, or 1 granule in the 3 1/2 days (so 2 times a week).

Could this make a difference for her? Or can I better leave the last dosage as he was ?

Sincerely.


John Harvey
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Re: Dog, mitochondrial disorder, Glonoine D30/C30

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Hi, Jacqueline --

If you're dosing her on Glonoin because she's cold, then, rather than create any of these complications, why not give her a blanket?

If the Glonoin is to address her health problems, including the encephalopathy, then it seems to be itself a cause of major problems, doesn't it. This is not unusual in human animals routinely dosed with an unchanging potency, so there's every reason to suspect that it will also occur in non-human animals. If the Glonoin is indeed sufficiently suitable to stimulate a curative reaction in her, then a single dose will produce a lasting effect, and further doses can assist only if they are in different potencies -- the alternative being that they will tend to embed the Glonoin medicinal illness or, if she's lucky, simply to antidote previous doses.

Hahnemann explained all this in the Organon. It seems that many times a practitioner will get away with repeated doses, either because they're not doing any lasting direct harm or because the practitioner is oblivious. But many cases given on this list have illustrated that Hahnemann's cautions, being so easy to implement, are worth heeding.

Cheers --
John


Jacqueline
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Re: Dog, mitochondrial disorder, Glonoine D30/C30

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Hi John,

She does get Glonoin for overheating. Normally she is always to warm, overheating. Overheating gives her seizures and strokes. This winter, she got so cold, that even a blanket would not help. She was 3 days cold. So cold that she could not warm up anymore. She could not sleep because of the cold, she was in our bed, with many blankets! But so cold, tongue cold, feeling cold over her whole body. This was for us a new symptom.

We tried years ago to give the Glonoin every other day in D30 potention. I give her the dosages in the evening, at 23.00 hours. The day after the glonoin she could walk, was happy could play, temperature normal. But that evening she did not get the glonoin, than she could not walk the next day, she got to warm, to warm and she could not use her muscles. She could only do 10 steps before she collapsed every time. We tried this for 6 weeks and 6 weeks she had every other day problems with walking, no strength in muscles. Collapsed every 10 steps. Could not carry her own body.

Sincerely,
Jacqueline
Hi, Jacqueline --

If you're dosing her on Glonoin because she's cold, then, rather than create any of these complications, why not give her a blanket?

If the Glonoin is to address her health problems, including the encephalopathy, then it seems to be itself a cause of major problems, doesn't it. This is not unusual in human animals routinely dosed with an unchanging potency, so there's every reason to suspect that it will also occur in non-human animals. If the Glonoin is indeed sufficiently suitable to stimulate a curative reaction in her, then a single dose will produce a lasting effect, and further doses can assist only if they are in different potencies -- the alternative being that they will tend to embed the Glonoin medicinal illness or, if she's lucky, simply to antidote previous doses.

Hahnemann explained all this in the Organon. It seems that many times a practitioner will get away with repeated doses, either because they're not doing any lasting direct harm or because the practitioner is oblivious. But many cases given on this list have illustrated that Hahnemann's cautions, being so easy to implement, are worth heeding.

Cheers --
John


Jacqueline
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Re: Dog, mitochondrial disorder, Glonoine D30/C30

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I forgot to tel when she had it so cold, she also started to get seizures, that month that she was to cold, she had 5 seizures and was every day scared.

Sincerely Jacqueline


John Harvey
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Re: Dog, mitochondrial disorder, Glonoine D30/C30

Post by John Harvey »

Hi, Jacqueline --

I'm trying to see the picture here. So, without medication, in summer she gets too hot and consequently has seizures, and in winter she gets too cold and consequently has seizures; is that so? And is all of this part of the effects of the mitochondrial disorder?

Is the encephalopathy a genetic disorder of the mitochondrial DNA, or does it result from a problem of mitochondrial function, do you know?

It might be useful if you could say what led you to use Glonoin for her.

Cheers --

John


Jacqueline
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Dog, mitochondrial disorder, Glonoine D30/C30

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Hi John,
I'm trying to see the picture here. So, without medication, in summer she gets too hot and consequently has seizures, and in winter she gets too cold and consequently has seizures; is that so?
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Without medication she is always to warm, and has consequently seizures, only this winter was the first time, even when it was stil warm, the seizures were getting more, so in september it were 2 seizures (in summer 1 seizure in the 6 weeks) and in oktober with 20*C and 18*C there were 5 seizures (in this period she got too cold), she got to cold and has had seizures of being to cold. Her heartrate is with warm weather only 50 beats a minute, in winter with cold weather the heartrate is 120 beats a minute. She has had a lot of headaches, migraines when she is too warm/ but also when she is too cold. Headaches = moaning a lot, migraines = is moaning a lot, with vomating and nausea. When she has vomate or has a seizure mostly the moaning stops.
And is all of this part of the effects of the mitochondrial disorder?
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Yes
Is the encephalopathy a genetic disorder of the mitochondrial DNA, or does it result from a problem of mitochondrial function, do you know?
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It is a defect of the mitochondrial DNA, and it is inhereted mostly by the mothter. The mother gives it trhough to all her children, only the one has more defect Mitochondrial DNA than the other. If they only have bij example 1% defect Mitochondrial DNA you don't have symptoms.

Because she has a mitochondrial disorder she can't put her food into energy. A healthy dog can eat and the body puts it in to energy. Dogs with an mitochondrial disorder can't do that. So they do get Vitamine B-12 - Vitamin C, other essential vitamins for the metabolism and energy, to help the metabolic system to put food into energy. Q10 - 100 mg for the energy. Taurin/Carnitin for the heart and metabolism. Heartmeds for extra oxigine in heart and brain. And she does get Chinese herbs to stop the heat to raising to her head. Since the chin. herbs she has'nt had a stroke!
It might be useful if you could say what led you to use Glonoin for her.
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We have tried Lachesus Mutus, that was too cold (and she was switching to often from very cold to very warm)
We have tried Phosporus D30,(still to many seizures (3 in a month) and a hugh stroke)
Glonoin D30 2 granule a day (clustering Seizures)6 at a Cluster)
Glonoin C30 2 granule a day (clustering Seizures)
We have tried Amilium Nitrosum 200K 2 dosages a week (1 granule in the 3 1/2 days) we have tried this in winter and she got stil to warm and was clustering again since half a year.
Glonoin D30 1 granule a day In winter (2 seizures in a serie, with a few days of moaning in between)
Glonoin C30 1 granule a day In fall, spring and summer (1 seizure in the 6 weeks)

The Glonoin C30 1 granule a day that is a high dosage for a dog, so we have to start with an lower dosage, maybe 2 times a week or every other day? Or are there any other suggestions?
Sincerely,

Jacqueline


Jacqueline
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Re: Dog, mitochondrial disorder, Glonoine D30/C30

Post by Jacqueline »

Unfortunately she is this month already on 4 seizures, because the spring is coming. This week temperatures outside from 9*C till 14*C and she had seizures on 2nd March (1 s) 5th March (1 s) 16th March (1 s) and this morning (1 s)
Greetings,
Jacqueline


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