I may be completely out of line in stating my personal opinion about this
method, but I think it would be only fair to tell my experience with muscle
testing and homeopathy.
I was speaking at a health expo in a large city with several very well known
holistic practitioners who incorporate muscle testing into their practice.
The week before the expo, someone in the local study group asked me why I
spent the last twenty years learning case taking from various teachers. When
it was easier to just muscle test or swing a pendulum to determine a remedy
choice.
I thought it was an interesting question so decided to make it a study group
test.
Ten people from the group went to the three practitioner's who's practice was
based on muscle testing and sat in each of their expo booths, allowing the
practitioner to test for the correct remedy. Out of the ten people, only one
had two (out of three) people prescribe the same remedy for them. I'm sure
this can be interpreted many ways but I chose to go back to taking a good
hour and a half interview.
I'm sure some people do have good experiences, but I personally would not
want my remedy choice made that way after that experiment.
Cindee
Muscle testing?
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Laura Peterson
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Re: Muscle testing?
Hi Cindee
I am not pro or con muscle testing. Would not the same thing have
happened if the three homeopaths had taken the case in the usual manner?
Laura
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I am not pro or con muscle testing. Would not the same thing have
happened if the three homeopaths had taken the case in the usual manner?
Laura
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Re: Muscle testing?
Hi Cindee,
As I'm sure you're aware...
Homeopathy means "similar suffering."
Homeopathic remedies are chosen based on "law of similars" -basically
meaning "likes cure like."
Careful casetaking allows the homeopath to apply these principles in
selecting a remedy.
Muscletestopathy and pendulumopathy are right up there with
psychicbeamedremedyopathy, radionicpsychotronopathy, etc.
Choosing remedies on these bases would be unpredictable, except that we can
pretty well predict that the practice of homeopathy would achieve better
results, including fewer suppressions &/or aggravations.
People will explore all the fringes, and try to bring their favorite gadget
along with them in order to attempt to circumvent the difficulty of actual
homeopathy.
No stopping them, I don't suppose, but we should do our utmost to make it
clear that these things are unrelated to homeopathy...
regards,
Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284
As I'm sure you're aware...
Homeopathy means "similar suffering."
Homeopathic remedies are chosen based on "law of similars" -basically
meaning "likes cure like."
Careful casetaking allows the homeopath to apply these principles in
selecting a remedy.
Muscletestopathy and pendulumopathy are right up there with
psychicbeamedremedyopathy, radionicpsychotronopathy, etc.
Choosing remedies on these bases would be unpredictable, except that we can
pretty well predict that the practice of homeopathy would achieve better
results, including fewer suppressions &/or aggravations.
People will explore all the fringes, and try to bring their favorite gadget
along with them in order to attempt to circumvent the difficulty of actual
homeopathy.
No stopping them, I don't suppose, but we should do our utmost to make it
clear that these things are unrelated to homeopathy...
regards,
Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284
Re: Muscle testing?
Oh God, I hope not. Maybe with beginners, and I beg students to stick with
acute prescribing until they have years of working with an experienced
prescriber.
Most of the advanced case analysis sessions I have attended, at least 90%
chose the same remedy or remedy sphere (close miasmatic choices). This would
cause me to believe that case taking may be the art, but choosing, the
science.
I am not really pro or con on this issue, I only have my own experience to go
share. I also have many clients who have worked with other practitioner's
who chose muscle testing in the past and did not have the success that they
had hoped for.
I did not make the judgment for the students, I allowed them to try it out on
their own. Thought it would be good to offer this experience to the group.
acute prescribing until they have years of working with an experienced
prescriber.
Most of the advanced case analysis sessions I have attended, at least 90%
chose the same remedy or remedy sphere (close miasmatic choices). This would
cause me to believe that case taking may be the art, but choosing, the
science.
I am not really pro or con on this issue, I only have my own experience to go
share. I also have many clients who have worked with other practitioner's
who chose muscle testing in the past and did not have the success that they
had hoped for.
I did not make the judgment for the students, I allowed them to try it out on
their own. Thought it would be good to offer this experience to the group.
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Natasha Pelech
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Re: Muscle testing?
Dear Cindee,
I appreciate your comments and experience on this topic. I regret to say that I do have had many years of experience in muscle testing as a client, student and practitioner.
Later, when I started homeopathy, I thought that I could continue with muscle testing but soon discovered that muscle testing regardless of where or how you test is completely subjective to the one doing the testing. Remedies that were well indicated via muscle testing were completely wrong once you read the MM. And, every time that I took or gave a remedy chosen by muscle testing, the reaction was either all new symptoms or no reaction, neither of which is acceptable. This situation was quite devastating to me as I had spent a lot of time and money learning several methods of muscle testing and had been confident that it was a worth while discipline. I sincerely wish I had found homeopathy sooner and not wasted my time on the pseudo-science of muscle testing.
I also concur with Dave Hartley's comments. In several schools of muscle testing, the goal of the test is to find a substance (herbs, rx, vitamins, etc.) or treatment (acupressure/massage/etc.) that BALANCES the body. With homeopathy I realized that it is the rx that is similar to the disease currently suffered that is curative. Whereas, a substance that is balancing merely attempts to palliate, suppress, or deepen pathology. So, theoretically, when testing you would almost want the substance/treatment that would make the client worse.... but due to the subjective nature of muscle testing this could be dangerous too.
I do not recommend muscle testing to anyone except persons suffering from muscle problems. The best experiences I have heard in muscle testing are those related to muscle problems, which makes sense because most muscle testing techniques are a blend of chiropractic, acupuncture and massage. Although, I would tend to seek the help of these later professionals rather than someone who specializes in just muscle testing.
Sincerely,
Natasha
3rd Year Homeo. student
I appreciate your comments and experience on this topic. I regret to say that I do have had many years of experience in muscle testing as a client, student and practitioner.
Later, when I started homeopathy, I thought that I could continue with muscle testing but soon discovered that muscle testing regardless of where or how you test is completely subjective to the one doing the testing. Remedies that were well indicated via muscle testing were completely wrong once you read the MM. And, every time that I took or gave a remedy chosen by muscle testing, the reaction was either all new symptoms or no reaction, neither of which is acceptable. This situation was quite devastating to me as I had spent a lot of time and money learning several methods of muscle testing and had been confident that it was a worth while discipline. I sincerely wish I had found homeopathy sooner and not wasted my time on the pseudo-science of muscle testing.
I also concur with Dave Hartley's comments. In several schools of muscle testing, the goal of the test is to find a substance (herbs, rx, vitamins, etc.) or treatment (acupressure/massage/etc.) that BALANCES the body. With homeopathy I realized that it is the rx that is similar to the disease currently suffered that is curative. Whereas, a substance that is balancing merely attempts to palliate, suppress, or deepen pathology. So, theoretically, when testing you would almost want the substance/treatment that would make the client worse.... but due to the subjective nature of muscle testing this could be dangerous too.
I do not recommend muscle testing to anyone except persons suffering from muscle problems. The best experiences I have heard in muscle testing are those related to muscle problems, which makes sense because most muscle testing techniques are a blend of chiropractic, acupuncture and massage. Although, I would tend to seek the help of these later professionals rather than someone who specializes in just muscle testing.
Sincerely,
Natasha
3rd Year Homeo. student