Spokesperson for the Supp. Industry - Nutrition

[comdyne2002]

RE: Radiation Hormesis. I knew this one would be hard to swallow. Scientists are wrong and there is very strong evidence to show that radiation, in low doses, is not only beneficial, but necessary.

There is a significant amount of published data to prove my statements. Try to keep an open mind and don't reject things automatically because of the brainwashing we have all received by our government controlled (i.e., the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about).

Fluoride isn't good for your teeth and chlorine causes heart disease. Halogens are laced into our water and food supply to make us sick. Vaccines kill. Just try to keep an open mind and don't become another statistic.

Are there homeopathic remedies to rid our bodies of these contaminants?
Is there a homeopathic that stimulates cellular activity just as does low level radiation? Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

[Tanya Marquette]

This is very interesting. It is challenging information.
However, without doing the reading yet, I would suggest that the level
of radiation that might be helpful is extraordinarily low. Otherwise,
there must be some concommittant that prevents harm. Radiation tx in
cancer is quite toxic to the patient. Then look at Iraq where we have
bombed them with radioactive weapons since 1991. The rates of cancer
are exhorbitant. And the rates of horrific childbirth defects are high
with deformities that look right out of a sci fi terror film. American
soldiers serving over there are also having horribly deformed children
after returning from duty over there.

If your info is correct about the Chernobyl and Japanese areas, I would
think the situation is more complicated than what is presented.

tanya

[Liz Brynin]

I am not arguing that low levels of radiation are good for you - most probably, as is arsenic - we have evolved to deal with it.
But your statements about Chernobyl beggar belief. I think you should do a little more background investigation yourself.
Liz

[comdyne2002]

My reference about Chernobyl was taken from "Radiation Hormesis" by T.D. Luckey. He stated that many of those exposed to levels exceeding the LD50 threshold did die, however, those exposed to lower levels did not and their health remained on par of those who had not been exposed. The thousands allegedly affected are not documented but are but a scare tactic to stir up public emotion. Cancers and deformities of new born babies did not materialize. This was true also from the Japan bombings.

Dr. Luckey also spoke of other accidents including 3 Mile Island and the results were the same, no hazards or ill health to the local population or those down wind. Carmi Hazen

[Shannon Nelson]

The links I just sent, and numerous others that came up as well, go very directly against those assertions.

[Liz Brynin]

Well Carmi, it seems like your Dr. Luckey is in denial!
I work with foreign language students, among them a lot of Japanese, and one of our elderly students was a wonderful old man from Japan, who was a memeber of the peace movement. I have had long discussions with him about the terrible aftermath of bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I think there have been terrible consequences, and certainly there is enough out there on the web, and enough terrible images of deformed children to draw this conclusion. But of course I could be wrong! And maybe the Holocaust didn't happen either!
Liz

[comdyne2002]

Here is where things get a bit difficult. Over the years several standards were used and then phased out. Today the current measurement standards use the terms REM which stands for Radiation Equivalent Man, Sievert and GY (Gray) the origins of each I do not know. Nor care to know.

1 RAD or REM = 100 Gray 1 RAD = 1 REM Rentgen is obsolete and there was no reference to it. A Sievert is 100 REM, very confusing...

Here are the exposure levels listed in Dr. Luckey's book in SI (Sieverts):

Subambient 0.01-1 mGy/y (m meaning milli y = year)
Low ambient 1-2 mGy/y
Hormetic 0.001-2 Gy/y absorption in a year
Hormetic 0.001-0.5 Gy rapid exposure
Hellstrom effect 2-3 Gy
Cancer 1-5 Gy
Lethal >3 Gy

The amount of exposure between Hormesis and radiation hazard is 1:10,000 thus the safety margin is great. Optimum exposure for the greatest healing effect in humans on average was 0.1 Gy/y or 100 REM.

Both measurements indicate the effects of exposures to human tissue both for chronic exposure which means the amount absorbed in an instant or over a brief period of time vs., the amount of exposure received in a year. ie. 500 REM = .5 Gy

Radon at levels commonly found in caves and homes was substantially below the danger threshold yet mine operators keep very detailed exposure time levels for all of their patrons even though the likelihood of radiation damage is extremely moot.

I am not holding myself out as an expert in this area as my Navy training was in the days of RADs and REM. Way back then Sieverts and Grays were not spoken of at that time but probably existed. It was interesting to note that the radiation levels on American nuclear submarines was lower that ambient levels outside the ships. Often I would take short cuts through the reactor compartment without any protection because the monitored levels were so low.

Staring into the deep blue flame of the reactor site glass was a very eerie experience. To me I was peering through a looking glass into the fires of hell. All of us had a great respect for this form of power which mankind had truculently purloined from Thor.

Most exposures from medical sources are well below the danger threshold but caution should be taken regardless as all too often the machines are out of calibration and the operators may have levels set much higher than necessary because they can get better pictures or are incompetent, probably both. Personally I would avoid X-rays unless absolutely necessary. I will not permit my dentist to take routine X-rays.

The Cat scan is a different beast altogether. I would stay out of them at all cost. Insist on an MRI instead. CAT scans are better at showing bone structure but otherwise MRI which is harmless magnetic energy, is just as good even though the bones show up as faint shadows. A cat scan machine emits very high levels of radiation. The operators play it down but watch them scamper like rats diserting a sinking ship just before they blast you. Alarm bells go off and yellow horizontally mounted gum-ball machines rapidly trace the floors and walls like at the automated car wash warning others to stay away.

Injected radioactive dyes and radioactive iodine used in the treatment of thyroid hyperthyroidism does not produce harmful effects and seldom if ever, cancer. However inflicting damage on the thyroid gland is barbaric and its application will reduce the quality of life and its length is significantly shortened. All sorts of metabolic problems occur when the thyroid is destroyed in this manner. Weight regulation is thrown out the window. Basic metabolism fails to adequately consume foods which then rot in the GI tract producing colonies of harmful bacteria and yeasts that penetrate the intestinal walls and leach undigested proteins into the circulatory system of the body which in turn leads to a cornucopia of disease, especially cancer.

Mammograms should also be avoided because this approach to breast cancer treatment is worthless. Cancer is systemic and tumors only form as a defense mechanism that the body uses to halt the spread of rotting tissue being eaten away by yeasts and fungi.

There are much better approaches to dealing with what is essentially a metabolic disorder which can be corrected by diet and changes in personal hygiene. The mechanical action of compressing the breast can activate a safely encapsulated cancer known as DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ) In Situ meaning "in place or as it sits." These cancers are harmless and will not usually cause trouble until they are disturbed by the intense mechanical action of the breast press and its sadist operator.

Breast cancer forms as do other forms of cancer due to impaired lymphatic circulation. In most cases pre-molar teeth are root canaled or otherwise infected which distorts the meridians on the electrical pathway which passes through the breast tissue. In almost every case of disease wherever it pops up in the body is due to distortions in the bio-meridian electrical systems of the body of which there are 24 lines, 12 on each side of a centerline. Properly trained biological dentists that use modern instrumentation developed in Germany by Dr. Reinhard Voll in the 1940s which can detect the onset of most diseases many years before they manifest in the body. The teeth are the key as well as the outer rim of the ears, between the fingers and toes. These areas are test points where the meridians can be measured for their energy levels or lack thereof.

Your dentist has the potential to be the best health diagnostician for finding diseases in the body at their begining stages. He/she is the gatekeeper to your health whether or not they know it. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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What does "exposure under 500 REM" equate to--e.g. how does that compare with, say, chest x-ray, skeletal x-ray, CAT scan, levels at various distances from Chernobyle, or ??