fear of deep water, or ?

[Shannon Nelson]

I'm wondering whether this is useful as a "fear" or not? She says: " When in the water (pond) at night, terrifying. I do it anyway. … Like fluttery terror in my chest, like the invisible lake sharks are going to eat me. Like something’s going to come up from the deep, going to eat me or grab me, or attack me."

She's talking about swimming at night in a pond, which seems not really an unreasonable situation for nerves... So I could consider "fear of dark water" (only alum-s) or "fear of large bodies of water" (Med only)--or should I just ignore it as a "reasonable" fear? (Alone in deep water in the dark, hm......)

Thanks,
Shannon

[Gail A]

Is the unusual bit that she does swim alone at night even though it terrifies her. Why does she need to do that?

Gail

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[Shannon Nelson]

I think mostly because she wants to swim! She also prefers not to be ruled by her "issues", but I don't *think* in any particularly pathological way. She's had a lot of issues to deal with (poor health due to an injury, plus being a teenager). So I could consider "courageous", but not sure it's all that over-the-top in her...

[Shannon Nelson]

But, I'll talk to her in a little while, and will ask her, thanks.

[Joy Lucas]

I would say it is very useful but from your other posts it reads as though this is an underlying anxiety that she is attempting to confront head on by 'going through with it anyway'.

As with all fears and anxieties they can appear to be straightforward but I would suggest you see if this is a metaphor for anything else but if this is not forthcoming then I also suggest that with any specific fear, where there are few rx, then take a look at the relevant dream rubrics, in this instance 'dreams of water' (and there is a dark water sub rubric I am sure, Ars + ?). I always think dreams correlate with fears. There is a 'desires swimming, night' rubric (you could almost guess the rx) and although you'd have to at least look at that it almost seems too rigid but you never know.

Putting aside the water theme there is also the other part of this - the being injured, attacked or eaten and that needs to be examined carefully - could be simply a vulnerable person trying to be strong.

But at the core of this is the fact that she still needs to do this and that means you almost don't need to bother with the specific presentation of the fear - 'desire to be magnetized' could cover it instead? Tubercular diathesis seems likely.

Joy

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[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Joy, those are lots of helpful thoughts, and I'll look into them!

I had a *long* and very, er, curious talk with her last night, that does play into some of what you've suggested. I'm going to have to work on this!!

Water: In my innocence I asked about her dreams, which took us into a long segment about a friend's episodes of demonic possession :-O , plus her own series of "apocalyptic" dreams--the waves are getting bigger and bigger, and we know that in a while they'll become a tsunami and wipe everything out. ... trying to climb higher and higher on the rocks, just trying to find a place to hold on and survive it.

So I guess we've got both "water" confirmed, and also something re danger... (I think this child needed more sheltering in earlier years... But she was very "individual" even as an infant, and would have been difficult to shelter much...)

Re the swimming in the dark, she says it's partly because she loves the "idea", and the pond is so peaceful at night, with the birds and bugs, and "having it to myself." (Yikes, she's swimming at night, in the dark, and *alone*???????)

There's a lot that's unusual here--this being only a part. There's also a chronic back injury dating back to circus school at age 15 (sheltering, yeah...). which *may* have been the reason for severe health issues in the five years since. I'm definitely not done taking this case...

I'm wondering, tho, about the Actinide series. There's so much about... not sure how to describe. "Magician," "transmuting energies," self-analysis, global themes. But I don't know beans about the Actinides, will have to look.

Meantime I have started her on silica 6x. She definitely needs physical strengthening and support, and it suits her in numerous ways, suits the complaints she's primarily looking for help with. (Sleep, back pain, digestion, "social anxiety", irresolution...)

Miasm--there's a lot syphilitic in both her personal and family histories, but tubercular also looks really plausible... Going to have to look more at that as well.

Thanks again!
Shannon

[Joy Lucas]

Hopefully you will be able to share the case with us, sounds a good one.

Repping has to be so fine when dealing with cases that are have strong emotional sx and too much or too little understanding/interpretation can fail the case which is why the water metaphor might be nothing but a metaphor, albeit a useful one maybe and that the tsunami is but life's insurmountable problems that we all face but how we express them is always going to define the individuality.

If you are going to study the actinides you probably won't find much in the reps though due to lack of provings but Jan's deductive work will be useful but you could end up using so called essence prescribing so any physical or obvious mental sx will be like gold dust.

A child that can't or doesn't need to be sheltered seems to match wonderfully her resolve against that tsunami - makes me think of Onc-t and also quite a few of the Lacs.

Joy

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[Joy Lucas]

Meant also to say that you should dig out some cases of Lac Del, not least because it is in the 'desires swimming' rubric (one of those obvious but potential red herring type of sx) but because of the back aches, a need to put a bubble around themselves for protection (all the milks need this) - they don't always want to grow up appropriately = her lack of sheltering? but they confront danger in this way so that they can feel peaceful in and amongst dangerous situations.

Just another thought.

Joy

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[R]

Use whatever works!

Try different rubrics and if you find remedies that
seem appropriate, you are on track.

The repertory is a map, not the terrain.

Roger

[Tanya Marquette]

Joy
What do you mean by 'magnetized' here?
I usually think it refers to a desire to be excited, but more so,
the desire to connect with some ethereal energies.
tanya