Hi,
In general, the right remedy should not bring out skin aggravations.
But it happens probably because the remedy is not exactly right. I am
having my second suphur patient getting the skin aggravations.
Hives....
I am thinking I need to wait until the aggravation clears before
starting the hopefully right remedy. What do other think? Is there
anything I can do to help clear up the aggravation. This patient is
taking over-the-counter drugs to withstand the aggravation. That does
not seem like a good idea. But I am not sure what I should recommend.
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
skin aggravations
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: skin aggravations
Hi Ellen,
Is this happening in a context of patient improvement in all other, more important areas? Or what's the situation? I was taught that for a psoric patient a skin condition might be the last step on the path to cure, and that in that situation curing it can be difficult; patient might need to be made aware that they can choose *either* yukky skin and everything else great, or skin great and other more troublesome things yukky. Is that the sort of situation you're talking about?
What's , and for how long?
Sheilagh Creasy gave a case of someone with terrible, head-to-toe eczema, which was healing slowly, and she gave them permission to use a *little* cortisone just on the face. She said that it can be alright for them to ease the worst areas, so long as adequate area is left untouched, for the disease to make its expression and its escape.
Shannon
Is this happening in a context of patient improvement in all other, more important areas? Or what's the situation? I was taught that for a psoric patient a skin condition might be the last step on the path to cure, and that in that situation curing it can be difficult; patient might need to be made aware that they can choose *either* yukky skin and everything else great, or skin great and other more troublesome things yukky. Is that the sort of situation you're talking about?
What's , and for how long?
Sheilagh Creasy gave a case of someone with terrible, head-to-toe eczema, which was healing slowly, and she gave them permission to use a *little* cortisone just on the face. She said that it can be alright for them to ease the worst areas, so long as adequate area is left untouched, for the disease to make its expression and its escape.
Shannon
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Ellen Madono
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Re: skin aggravations
Hi Shannon,
The patient is very open to me, but I can't tell if there are improvements. I Suspect there are none, or they are too subtle. This was the situation in both cases that I mentioned.
So I am definitely planning to change remedies. But something is coming out of her skin and that in itself seems ok. If she can just not use drugs. She does not have skin problems ordinarily. So of course she is unhappy.
Do you think I should just start the next remedy before this aggravation subsides in hopes that the next remedy helps the skin problem?
This patient has a Sulpha drug allergy. I think that is the cause for the aggravation since the remedy is sulphur.
This is an HFA case. The next remedy is Lyc. She is constantly talking about people who are manipulative. Maybe that is a reflection on her. Every move she makes requires so much consideration. I know, Grant says don't get carried away with this kind of essence analysis.
I am wondering if in general people wait out these kind of 'proving' type aggravations.
Best,
Ellen
The patient is very open to me, but I can't tell if there are improvements. I Suspect there are none, or they are too subtle. This was the situation in both cases that I mentioned.
So I am definitely planning to change remedies. But something is coming out of her skin and that in itself seems ok. If she can just not use drugs. She does not have skin problems ordinarily. So of course she is unhappy.
Do you think I should just start the next remedy before this aggravation subsides in hopes that the next remedy helps the skin problem?
This patient has a Sulpha drug allergy. I think that is the cause for the aggravation since the remedy is sulphur.
This is an HFA case. The next remedy is Lyc. She is constantly talking about people who are manipulative. Maybe that is a reflection on her. Every move she makes requires so much consideration. I know, Grant says don't get carried away with this kind of essence analysis.
I am wondering if in general people wait out these kind of 'proving' type aggravations.
Best,
Ellen
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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skin aggravations
The bacteriostatic sulfamides and the chemical (and remedy) sulphur have no relations except for "sounding" similar.
Question: is it an aggravation, a proving or an expression of previously repressed pathology?
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Question: is it an aggravation, a proving or an expression of previously repressed pathology?
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Ellen Madono
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Re: skin aggravations
Hi Dr. Roz,
Thanks for the clarification on sulpha drugs.
She does not remember using skin medications or having skin problems but she immediately went out and bought anti-histamines. That suggests to me that she has suppressed skin symptoms before. Who hasn't?
She is having rupture of blood veins in the retina as her most serious symptom. But bone breaking also suggests weakness of the circulatory system. External goiter and thyroid deficiency since she was young. Yet taking no thyroid medication until recently. The vertigo from what appears to be a stroke in the retina came with flashes of light momentarily. Two incidences. None recently since remedy use. Sudden onset. Vertigo worse stooping, but does not have vertigo much or now. Urinary involuntary at night, but better since I started working with her. Anger that gets explosive. Unexpected bouts of cursing. Irish. Lots of resentment toward family and tendency of family members to break off relationships. General - warm constitution.
Lives in piles of paper and junk. Very much the ragged philosopher. She is 70 and living near the poverty level, so generally getting run down. But not a big medication user. Survives against all odds.
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
The bacteriostatic sulfamides and the chemical (and remedy) sulphur have no relations except for "sounding" similar.
Question: is it an aggravation, a proving or an expression of previously repressed pathology?
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
Thanks for the clarification on sulpha drugs.
She does not remember using skin medications or having skin problems but she immediately went out and bought anti-histamines. That suggests to me that she has suppressed skin symptoms before. Who hasn't?
She is having rupture of blood veins in the retina as her most serious symptom. But bone breaking also suggests weakness of the circulatory system. External goiter and thyroid deficiency since she was young. Yet taking no thyroid medication until recently. The vertigo from what appears to be a stroke in the retina came with flashes of light momentarily. Two incidences. None recently since remedy use. Sudden onset. Vertigo worse stooping, but does not have vertigo much or now. Urinary involuntary at night, but better since I started working with her. Anger that gets explosive. Unexpected bouts of cursing. Irish. Lots of resentment toward family and tendency of family members to break off relationships. General - warm constitution.
Lives in piles of paper and junk. Very much the ragged philosopher. She is 70 and living near the poverty level, so generally getting run down. But not a big medication user. Survives against all odds.
Thanks,
Ellen Madono
The bacteriostatic sulfamides and the chemical (and remedy) sulphur have no relations except for "sounding" similar.
Question: is it an aggravation, a proving or an expression of previously repressed pathology?
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: skin aggravations
I am not trying to be a smart ass or anything.......but:
- why would bone breaking be linked to circulation insufficiency?
- blood vessel rupture, bone fragility and poverty point towards malnutrition or dysnutrition, that can only be helped by better nutrition and not by any other treatment
- I did not realise that being Irish was pathological or a homeopathic symptom .........
Do you see where I go with that? Her skin eruption might just be a defective reaction to a correct remedy because her physiology is too impaired by lack of proper "fuel".............maintaining cause of disease......
Of course I might be wrong in this assessment..........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
- why would bone breaking be linked to circulation insufficiency?
- blood vessel rupture, bone fragility and poverty point towards malnutrition or dysnutrition, that can only be helped by better nutrition and not by any other treatment
- I did not realise that being Irish was pathological or a homeopathic symptom .........
Do you see where I go with that? Her skin eruption might just be a defective reaction to a correct remedy because her physiology is too impaired by lack of proper "fuel".............maintaining cause of disease......
Of course I might be wrong in this assessment..........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
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Ellen Madono
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Re: skin aggravations
Dear Doc,
Love your blinking faces. Did not know Nux blinked.
I am hung up on circulation. True. I think stiff narrow vessels are responsible for all the problems of aging (sort of) The rupture in the retina is a blood vessel. She does not talk about coldness or numbness in extremeties or other signs of circulation problems. Both bones of one ankle broke just stepping off a curb. The doctors says she has osteoporosis. But why?
Her diet is very limited. But chicken, lots of nuts, bananas,apples, and dried fruit seems heavy on sugar but better than a lot of other people. She does not eat the typical high carbohydrate diet that you would expect. Has her own garden. In the summer she harvests it and eats those veggies. Otherwise veggies are the frozen variety. Big on drinking a tea made from ginger. Eat 2 meals a day. I wish I could eat so well. Just extremely frugal. Has to be.
I think Irish and Japanese are all genetic defects. I have so many friends of both types and swear birds of a feather flock together. I have a lot of Jewish friends, but they seem to be a different sort of defect. Oh well Hahnamann says that we are bound to go down hill with our miasms. :-
Back to the subject, skin erruptions are my worst form of aggravation. I think it is a failure to expell toxins through the easier route, stools and urine. With sulphur, the skin aggravation has become almost expected. She is also very cranky with the sulphur. Forgot to mention that. Get's angry very easily and afraid she is going to inappropriately lose her temper. All forms of discharge, in my opinion.
Best,
Ellen Madono
I am not trying to be a smart ass or anything.......but:
- why would bone breaking be linked to circulation insufficiency?
- blood vessel rupture, bone fragility and poverty point towards malnutrition or dysnutrition, that can only be helped by better nutrition and not by any other treatment
- I did not realise that being Irish was pathological or a homeopathic symptom .........
Do you see where I go with that? Her skin eruption might just be a defective reaction to a correct remedy because her physiology is too impaired by lack of proper "fuel".............maintaining cause of disease......
Of course I might be wrong in this assessment..........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
Love your blinking faces. Did not know Nux blinked.
I am hung up on circulation. True. I think stiff narrow vessels are responsible for all the problems of aging (sort of) The rupture in the retina is a blood vessel. She does not talk about coldness or numbness in extremeties or other signs of circulation problems. Both bones of one ankle broke just stepping off a curb. The doctors says she has osteoporosis. But why?
Her diet is very limited. But chicken, lots of nuts, bananas,apples, and dried fruit seems heavy on sugar but better than a lot of other people. She does not eat the typical high carbohydrate diet that you would expect. Has her own garden. In the summer she harvests it and eats those veggies. Otherwise veggies are the frozen variety. Big on drinking a tea made from ginger. Eat 2 meals a day. I wish I could eat so well. Just extremely frugal. Has to be.
I think Irish and Japanese are all genetic defects. I have so many friends of both types and swear birds of a feather flock together. I have a lot of Jewish friends, but they seem to be a different sort of defect. Oh well Hahnamann says that we are bound to go down hill with our miasms. :-
Back to the subject, skin erruptions are my worst form of aggravation. I think it is a failure to expell toxins through the easier route, stools and urine. With sulphur, the skin aggravation has become almost expected. She is also very cranky with the sulphur. Forgot to mention that. Get's angry very easily and afraid she is going to inappropriately lose her temper. All forms of discharge, in my opinion.
Best,
Ellen Madono
I am not trying to be a smart ass or anything.......but:
- why would bone breaking be linked to circulation insufficiency?
- blood vessel rupture, bone fragility and poverty point towards malnutrition or dysnutrition, that can only be helped by better nutrition and not by any other treatment
- I did not realise that being Irish was pathological or a homeopathic symptom .........
Do you see where I go with that? Her skin eruption might just be a defective reaction to a correct remedy because her physiology is too impaired by lack of proper "fuel".............maintaining cause of disease......
Of course I might be wrong in this assessment..........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: skin aggravations
Difficult to answer, shooting in the dark as I do not know the patient.... And there is obviously plenty of things untold.....
Frugal....to what level....there is frugality and there is deficiency....osteoporosis is a deficiency problem, vitamin D or other like C (collagen) and many minerals.
Any history or possibility of toxic exposure, in which case, you know I am a big fan of drainage-detoxification?
I disagree with your genetic concept, although there are clusters of preferred pathologies and behaviours, we are all so mixed that it is not really relevant IMO with some exceptions.
But you say she is Irish, what is she doing in Japan? That on its own might be a very important cultural and social stress factor.......etc............
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
Frugal....to what level....there is frugality and there is deficiency....osteoporosis is a deficiency problem, vitamin D or other like C (collagen) and many minerals.
Any history or possibility of toxic exposure, in which case, you know I am a big fan of drainage-detoxification?
I disagree with your genetic concept, although there are clusters of preferred pathologies and behaviours, we are all so mixed that it is not really relevant IMO with some exceptions.
But you say she is Irish, what is she doing in Japan? That on its own might be a very important cultural and social stress factor.......etc............
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com
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Vera Resnick
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Re: skin aggravations
Why should the right remedy not bring out skin aggravations? Remedies that are homoeopathic to the case very often bring out skin response. What's the basis for your premise here?
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Vera
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Re: skin aggravations
In general the right remedy will bring out any latent skin sx if they are there and will need to 'come out' - this isn't an aggravation but direction of cure, unless she is proving the rx - what was the potency and dose? Maybe these were not correct.
If it is a useful, i.e. healing discharge/eruption and that potency and dose were simillimum as well but the skin sx are intolerable then you have to re-take the case and prescribe accordingly unless she is willing to tolerate the sx, apparently not if she's taking A/H. If all aspects of the prescription are simillimum then you do know she is a 'sensitive' type and will need to take that into consideration if you give another rx.
I do not mean to be harsh but you should know what to do in these circumstances. Firstly, do no harm.
Joy
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If it is a useful, i.e. healing discharge/eruption and that potency and dose were simillimum as well but the skin sx are intolerable then you have to re-take the case and prescribe accordingly unless she is willing to tolerate the sx, apparently not if she's taking A/H. If all aspects of the prescription are simillimum then you do know she is a 'sensitive' type and will need to take that into consideration if you give another rx.
I do not mean to be harsh but you should know what to do in these circumstances. Firstly, do no harm.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com