allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

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Ellen Madono
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allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

Post by Ellen Madono »

Hi,

I am putting together an argument in Japanese about homeopathy as not
the "killing" approach to treatment. I am thinking how much of our
body is made of cells that are not human. To what extent are we
co-existing with other life forms inside our body. If anyone knows
some keywords to look this kind of information up, I would appreciate
it.

Also, I am looking for a visual image of allopathy disarming the
immune system versus vitalizing it. I keep thinking of the pictures
in the pathology books, but the normal person is not going to relate
to those pictures. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ellen Madono

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Victoria Mashevsky
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Re: allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

Post by Victoria Mashevsky »

1857 painting by Alexander Beydeman showing historical figures and personifications of homeopathy observing the perceived brutality of medicine of the 19th century


Ellen Madono
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Re: allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

Post by Ellen Madono »

Dear Victoria,

What a beautiful name. Victoria Skye.

The picture is fantastic. I have seen it before, but because I have a use for it, it is even better.

Thanks for reminding me.

Blessings,
Ellen Madono

Gmail would not open up the link to the picture and would not open the picture either. Could you send me the link. It looks


muthu kumar
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Re: allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

Post by muthu kumar »

Do you think this picture is appropriate for your purposes? Is the perceived brutality of 1857 the same now and do you think that will resonate with your theme?

I would think that is some thing more factual or looking at the bodily mechanisms would be more appropriate...it might be the allopathic back ground in me but this picture is not appealing and seems a little hyperbole

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Victoria Mashevsky
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Re: allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

Post by Victoria Mashevsky »

Dear Ellen, it is from Wikipedea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy at the very bottom of the page. The article on Wiki about homeopathy is not good, but since pictures can be added by anybody, whoever added this picture made a nice chess move and deserves high praise.
V


Tanya Marquette
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Post by Tanya Marquette »

have you seen any of the old lithograph type pictures of allopaths performing
blood letting or leeching in the middle or victorian ages?
i have also seen photos/picture of women being examined in the victorian age;
ie, women standing and doctors putting there hands up under their clothes for
exam.
the washington post had the link to this article with a quiet but dramatic photo
www.boingboing.net/2010/06/06/scott-allen-md-lead.html
as for other species cells in human bodies? are you looking for things like
the millions of bacteria that live symbiotically with us? or are you thinking
of all foreign animal cells from vaccines?
tanya


Tanya Marquette
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Re: allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

Post by Tanya Marquette »

what will make the connection is to use these old medical photos in conjunction with more contemporary ones.
i have often said that the only thing that has changed in 500 yrs is the color of the medical uniform!
old leeching pictures vs new leeching pictures for example.
tanya


muthu kumar
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and I commented that the picture was a hyperbole !!!


Shannon Nelson
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Re: allopathy as killing vs vitalizing homeopathy

Post by Shannon Nelson »

I think you have a good point. Altho I too was tickled by the picture, I too feel that it's perhaps not the best way to make a serious point about the *actual* and *current* differences between the two systems. It's too easy to point to things which have improved since then, *and* one does not make points with anyone, by attacking and ridiculing something which is simply part of their life and their worldview. I'd be afraid it's more apt to be polarizing, or to bring up objections and defenses, when what you'd *want*, I assume, is to bring about reflection, consideration, comparison, and an open mind.

I (ad nauseum perhaps) refer to allopathy as "shoot-the-messenger medicine", because they are so fixated on abolishing *single symptoms*, without, in most cases, either knowing or caring about what meaning or message the symptoms might be carrying. E.g. painkillers for headache (instead of correcting or avoiding the imbalance); cortisone for rash (instead of considering allergies, deficiencies, etc.) -- and etc.

By contrast, with single-remedy homeopathy, you are unlikely to get much of any result at all, unless the remedy bears relationship to the person in a wholistic sort of way.

And along similar lines, one can contrast allopathic meds' "side-effects" with homeopathy's proclivity to "side-benefits"!

Shannon


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