Milk vs. milk

[Shannon Nelson]

(This is a *little* not-OT, since could perhaps be helpful for some
patients?)

This is a really interesting article via Mercola, about differences in
milk from A1 cows (which includes Holsteins, the major breed used by
commercial dairies today in the US) versus milk from A2 cows (which
are the older breeds, including Jersey, Guernsey, Asian and African
cows). Addresses the issue of whether milk increases phlegm
production (A1 vs A2), and the opiate-like effects sometimes noted.
Worth a read! (Tip: another reason to love Jersey cows!! )

Shannon

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... stion.aspx

[Kerry]

Is the list part of the milk marketing board now? A better option
would be for patients to cut out a totally unnatural food stuff. Milk
was designed for the infant of that particular species, not for humans,
and it causes more health problems than just phlegm when it is consumed
into adulthood.

Kerry

[Teresa Kramer]

And eggs were designed to breed chicks, but we have been eating them (as have many other species, e.g. birds eating other birds’ eggs) for millennia—too far back to count. Same goes for milk. People who consume raw milk (think Massai in Kenya for example) do very well indeed—and have always done. It is the homogenization and to a lesser extent the pasteurization that render milk unhealthful. Try reading about that on line.
In the US, anyway, certified raw milk is now available (via the internet) to anyone who cares to learn about it and improve their health. It’s not even that expensive, at least the raw milk we get is not. Teresa (Northern VA)
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kerry
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:16 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Milk vs. milk
Is the list part of the milk marketing board now? A better option
would be for patients to cut out a totally unnatural food stuff. Milk
was designed for the infant of that particular species, not for humans,
and it causes more health problems than just phlegm when it is consumed
into adulthood.

Kerry

[Shannon Nelson]

It's a multi-faceted issue which I don't think should be debated here.
Fact is that many of us--and I would guess most of our patients--do drink it.
For that reason I felt it worth sharing.

[Shannon Nelson]

Raw milk on the internet??? Wow, what's the website?
(The Massai's cows are A2 type, with the healthier kind of milk! Wonder if they would do so well on the milk of even grass-fed Holsteins? It would be so interesting to be able to know...)
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[Kerry]

I have read a lot about milk and suffered the consequences of using it.
The argument that we have done something for a long time, so it has to
be good for us, is an erroneous one. If we are still eating McDonald's
in a thousand years time, will they be good for us? But besides all
that, is a homeopathy list the place to be discussing milk?

Kerry

[Kerry]

No only should it not be debated here, it shouldn't be shared here
either as this is a homeopathy list, not a list about diets and the
effect of all the different foods. Perhaps you had a special interest
in this topic because you are a dairy farmer, but that doesn't give it a
special dispensation to be discussed.

Kerry

[Teresa Kramer]

I replied to Shannon off-list, but if you google “raw milk” other co-ops than ours should come up, and some producers sell frozen milk delivered to your house, I believe. t
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:46 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Milk vs. milk
Raw milk on the internet??? Wow, what's the website?

(The Massai's cows are A2 type, with the healthier kind of milk! Wonder if they would do so well on the milk of even grass-fed Holsteins? It would be so interesting to be able to know...)
And eggs were designed to breed chicks, but we have been eating them (as have many other species, e.g. birds eating other birds’ eggs) for millennia—too far back to count. Same goes for milk. People who consume raw milk (think Massai in Kenya for example) do very well indeed—and have always done. It is the homogenization and to a lesser extent the pasteurization that render milk unhealthful. Try reading about that on line.
In the US, anyway, certified raw milk is now available (via the internet) to anyone who cares to learn about it and improve their health. It’s not even that expensive, at least the raw milk we get is not. Teresa (Northern VA)
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kerry
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:16 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Milk vs. milk
Is the list part of the milk marketing board now? A better option
would be for patients to cut out a totally unnatural food stuff. Milk
was designed for the infant of that particular species, not for humans,
and it causes more health problems than just phlegm when it is consumed
into adulthood.

Kerry

[Shannon Nelson]

Kerry, if you felt up to an experiment, it would be so interesting (at least to me, smile) to see whether you reacted any differently to the most "primal" form of milk--raw milk from grass-fed cows of the older, A2 group--which includes Jerseys, still common among at least smaller farms, and still beloved for their sweet and creamy milk (as well as their gentle dispositions).

My neice recently had a truly miraculous "health renaissance" (she was down to 90 pounds, not able to absorb the excellent food she ate) from several months on exclusively (raw, grass-fed, and just by chance from Jersey cows) dairy diet, plus raw eggs. (The diet is broadening as she recovers.) There may be actual *reasons* why in the past milk was in many places revered (and in particular cream and butter).

But--I won't say any more about it; not interested in arguing, just presenting what I found to be interesting. (Did you at least read the article? It's not very long...)

Shannon

[Shannon Nelson]

Hm... I did explain why I posted it.
Actually I'm not a dairy farmer, tho we do have a sweet little Jersey cow that we sometimes milk.
And actually, anything that might be helpful to *patients*, or to homeopaths in helping to address their patients' concerns, is 100% appropriate for the list, so no "special dispensation" was needed whatever.

But, I'm bored with it and have other things to do, so will move along.