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From: Jayney Goddard [mailto:jayney@the-cma-org.ccsend.com] On Behalf Of Jayney Goddard
Sent: 30 March 2010 18:46
To: finrod@finrod.co.uk
Subject: Naughty Piglets . . .
Do Piglets Really Tell Porkies?
A little something to entertain, amuse and inspire
Dear Soroush,
The following was sent to me by organic farmer, homeopathic activist and all round good guy - Oliver Dowding. I was fascinated by this piece of research and I hope you enjoy it too:
Homeopathy Success in Piglets and E Coli
A wonderful research article was only recently published in the journal 'Homeopathy' (Volume 99, Issue 1, January 2010, Pages 57-62 Special Issue: Biological models of homeopathy Part 2)
Here's a quick outline of what happened:
The study in question was a double blind RCT of 52 sows who were randonly treated with Coli 30K or placebo and who subsequently gave birth to 525 piglets.
The study showed that there was a reduction in the incidence of E.Coli diarrhoea. (Results showed that the placebo group had over six times more diarrhoea than the homeopathically treated group (P < 0.0001).
he researchers pointed out that although mean duration of diarrhoea was not significantly different for both groups, 1.86 days on average in the placebo group compared to 1.3 days in the Coli 30K group, the difference of half a day can make large differences in the overall performance of piglets.
The owner of the farm where the experiment was carried out initially quite sceptical about homeopathy. However, after the experiment he decided to apply Coli 30K to all sows. Since then E.Coli diarrhoea has hardly occurred . . . . . .
The authors state that "Advantages at farm level (of E.Coli 30K homeopathic remedy) are ease of application of the treatment by the farmer and cost reduction. These advantages and the positive results from this study make the homeopathic agent Coli 30K an attractive potential alternative in the prevention of E.Coli diarrhoea."
Hmmm . . . Food for thought . . . .
So, given the double blind RCT structure of the trial - the 'gold standard' of science, does this research indicate that homeopathy works, double blind RCTs don't work - or that ickle piggies tell great big porkies?
You decide!
To access the article abstract please click here
(Please note that while the abstract is free to access, Elsevier have the copyright to this article so if you want to read the full - much longer article you have to pay a very small sum to download it.)
Warmest wishes,
Jayney
Jayney Goddard
President, The Complementary Medical Association
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Re: Naughty Piglets . . .
Very nice!
And I have to muse--this kind of study, where potentized "germs" are used to prevent disease presumed to be caused by said "terms", are particularly interesting in light of the claims that "germs don't cause disease"... (I'll add again that neither I nor, I would bet, any participant on this list or similar, would dispute the idea that in (at least) *most* cases of germ-caused disease, the "terrain"-- the patient's prior state of health--is also relevant...)
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Do Piglets Really Tell Porkies?
A little something to entertain, amuse and inspire
Dear Soroush,
The following was sent to me by organic farmer, homeopathic activist and all round good guy - Oliver Dowding. I was fascinated by this piece of research and I hope you enjoy it too:
Homeopathy Success in Piglets and E Coli
A wonderful research article was only recently published in the journal 'Homeopathy' (Volume 99, Issue 1, January 2010, Pages 57-62 Special Issue: Biological models of homeopathy Part 2)
Here's a quick outline of what happened:
The study in question was a double blind RCT of 52 sows who were randonly treated with Coli 30K or placebo and who subsequently gave birth to 525 piglets.
The study showed that there was a reduction in the incidence of E.Coli diarrhoea. (Results showed that the placebo group had over six times more diarrhoea than the homeopathically treated group (P < 0.0001).
he researchers pointed out that although mean duration of diarrhoea was not significantly different for both groups, 1.86 days on average in the placebo group compared to 1.3 days in the Coli 30K group, the difference of half a day can make large differences in the overall performance of piglets.
The owner of the farm where the experiment was carried out initially quite sceptical about homeopathy. However, after the experiment he decided to apply Coli 30K to all sows. Since then E.Coli diarrhoea has hardly occurred . . . . . .
The authors state that "Advantages at farm level (of E.Coli 30K homeopathic remedy) are ease of application of the treatment by the farmer and cost reduction. These advantages and the positive results from this study make the homeopathic agent Coli 30K an attractive potential alternative in the prevention of E.Coli diarrhoea."
Hmmm . . . Food for thought . . . .
So, given the double blind RCT structure of the trial - the 'gold standard' of science, does this research indicate that homeopathy works, double blind RCTs don't work - or that ickle piggies tell great big porkies?
You decide!
To access the article abstract please click here
(Please note that while the abstract is free to access, Elsevier have the copyright to this article so if you want to read the full - much longer article you have to pay a very small sum to download it.)
Warmest wishes,
Jayney
Jayney Goddard
President, The Complementary Medical Association
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And I have to muse--this kind of study, where potentized "germs" are used to prevent disease presumed to be caused by said "terms", are particularly interesting in light of the claims that "germs don't cause disease"... (I'll add again that neither I nor, I would bet, any participant on this list or similar, would dispute the idea that in (at least) *most* cases of germ-caused disease, the "terrain"-- the patient's prior state of health--is also relevant...)
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Do Piglets Really Tell Porkies?
A little something to entertain, amuse and inspire
Dear Soroush,
The following was sent to me by organic farmer, homeopathic activist and all round good guy - Oliver Dowding. I was fascinated by this piece of research and I hope you enjoy it too:
Homeopathy Success in Piglets and E Coli
A wonderful research article was only recently published in the journal 'Homeopathy' (Volume 99, Issue 1, January 2010, Pages 57-62 Special Issue: Biological models of homeopathy Part 2)
Here's a quick outline of what happened:
The study in question was a double blind RCT of 52 sows who were randonly treated with Coli 30K or placebo and who subsequently gave birth to 525 piglets.
The study showed that there was a reduction in the incidence of E.Coli diarrhoea. (Results showed that the placebo group had over six times more diarrhoea than the homeopathically treated group (P < 0.0001).
he researchers pointed out that although mean duration of diarrhoea was not significantly different for both groups, 1.86 days on average in the placebo group compared to 1.3 days in the Coli 30K group, the difference of half a day can make large differences in the overall performance of piglets.
The owner of the farm where the experiment was carried out initially quite sceptical about homeopathy. However, after the experiment he decided to apply Coli 30K to all sows. Since then E.Coli diarrhoea has hardly occurred . . . . . .
The authors state that "Advantages at farm level (of E.Coli 30K homeopathic remedy) are ease of application of the treatment by the farmer and cost reduction. These advantages and the positive results from this study make the homeopathic agent Coli 30K an attractive potential alternative in the prevention of E.Coli diarrhoea."
Hmmm . . . Food for thought . . . .
So, given the double blind RCT structure of the trial - the 'gold standard' of science, does this research indicate that homeopathy works, double blind RCTs don't work - or that ickle piggies tell great big porkies?
You decide!
To access the article abstract please click here
(Please note that while the abstract is free to access, Elsevier have the copyright to this article so if you want to read the full - much longer article you have to pay a very small sum to download it.)
Warmest wishes,
Jayney
Jayney Goddard
President, The Complementary Medical Association
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Re: Naughty Piglets . . .
Plenty of 'porkies' told about swine 'flu as well 
)
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
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Do Piglets Really Tell Porkies?
A little something to entertain, amuse and inspire
Dear Soroush,
The following was sent to me by organic farmer, homeopathic activist and all round good guy - Oliver Dowding. I was fascinated by this piece of research and I hope you enjoy it too:
Homeopathy Success in Piglets and E Coli
A wonderful research article was only recently published in the journal 'Homeopathy' (Volume 99, Issue 1, January 2010, Pages 57-62 Special Issue: Biological models of homeopathy Part 2)
Here's a quick outline of what happened:
The study in question was a double blind RCT of 52 sows who were randonly treated with Coli 30K or placebo and who subsequently gave birth to 525 piglets.
The study showed that there was a reduction in the incidence of E.Coli diarrhoea. (Results showed that the placebo group had over six times more diarrhoea than the homeopathically treated group (P < 0.0001).
he researchers pointed out that although mean duration of diarrhoea was not significantly different for both groups, 1.86 days on average in the placebo group compared to 1.3 days in the Coli 30K group, the difference of half a day can make large differences in the overall performance of piglets.
The owner of the farm where the experiment was carried out initially quite sceptical about homeopathy. However, after the experiment he decided to apply Coli 30K to all sows. Since then E.Coli diarrhoea has hardly occurred . . . . . .
The authors state that "Advantages at farm level (of E.Coli 30K homeopathic remedy) are ease of application of the treatment by the farmer and cost reduction. These advantages and the positive results from this study make the homeopathic agent Coli 30K an attractive potential alternative in the prevention of E.Coli diarrhoea."
Hmmm . . . Food for thought . . . .
So, given the double blind RCT structure of the trial - the 'gold standard' of science, does this research indicate that homeopathy works, double blind RCTs don't work - or that ickle piggies tell great big porkies?
You decide!
To access the article abstract please click here
(Please note that while the abstract is free to access, Elsevier have the copyright to this article so if you want to read the full - much longer article you have to pay a very small sum to download it.)
Warmest wishes,
Jayney
Jayney Goddard
President, The Complementary Medical Association
F
)Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
________________________________
Do Piglets Really Tell Porkies?
A little something to entertain, amuse and inspire
Dear Soroush,
The following was sent to me by organic farmer, homeopathic activist and all round good guy - Oliver Dowding. I was fascinated by this piece of research and I hope you enjoy it too:
Homeopathy Success in Piglets and E Coli
A wonderful research article was only recently published in the journal 'Homeopathy' (Volume 99, Issue 1, January 2010, Pages 57-62 Special Issue: Biological models of homeopathy Part 2)
Here's a quick outline of what happened:
The study in question was a double blind RCT of 52 sows who were randonly treated with Coli 30K or placebo and who subsequently gave birth to 525 piglets.
The study showed that there was a reduction in the incidence of E.Coli diarrhoea. (Results showed that the placebo group had over six times more diarrhoea than the homeopathically treated group (P < 0.0001).
he researchers pointed out that although mean duration of diarrhoea was not significantly different for both groups, 1.86 days on average in the placebo group compared to 1.3 days in the Coli 30K group, the difference of half a day can make large differences in the overall performance of piglets.
The owner of the farm where the experiment was carried out initially quite sceptical about homeopathy. However, after the experiment he decided to apply Coli 30K to all sows. Since then E.Coli diarrhoea has hardly occurred . . . . . .
The authors state that "Advantages at farm level (of E.Coli 30K homeopathic remedy) are ease of application of the treatment by the farmer and cost reduction. These advantages and the positive results from this study make the homeopathic agent Coli 30K an attractive potential alternative in the prevention of E.Coli diarrhoea."
Hmmm . . . Food for thought . . . .
So, given the double blind RCT structure of the trial - the 'gold standard' of science, does this research indicate that homeopathy works, double blind RCTs don't work - or that ickle piggies tell great big porkies?
You decide!
To access the article abstract please click here
(Please note that while the abstract is free to access, Elsevier have the copyright to this article so if you want to read the full - much longer article you have to pay a very small sum to download it.)
Warmest wishes,
Jayney
Jayney Goddard
President, The Complementary Medical Association
F
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Naughty Piglets . . .
I have been getting wind of Oliver from another UK list. He is a gem!
tanya
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Do Piglets Really Tell Porkies?
A little something to entertain, amuse and inspire
Dear Soroush,
The following was sent to me by organic farmer, homeopathic activist and all round good guy - Oliver Dowding. I was fascinated by this piece of research and I hope you enjoy it too:
Homeopathy Success in Piglets and E Coli
A wonderful research article was only recently published in the journal 'Homeopathy' (Volume 99, Issue 1, January 2010, Pages 57-62 Special Issue: Biological models of homeopathy Part 2)
Here's a quick outline of what happened:
The study in question was a double blind RCT of 52 sows who were randonly treated with Coli 30K or placebo and who subsequently gave birth to 525 piglets.
The study showed that there was a reduction in the incidence of E.Coli diarrhoea. (Results showed that the placebo group had over six times more diarrhoea than the homeopathically treated group (P < 0.0001).
he researchers pointed out that although mean duration of diarrhoea was not significantly different for both groups, 1.86 days on average in the placebo group compared to 1.3 days in the Coli 30K group, the difference of half a day can make large differences in the overall performance of piglets.
The owner of the farm where the experiment was carried out initially quite sceptical about homeopathy. However, after the experiment he decided to apply Coli 30K to all sows. Since then E.Coli diarrhoea has hardly occurred . . . . . .
The authors state that "Advantages at farm level (of E.Coli 30K homeopathic remedy) are ease of application of the treatment by the farmer and cost reduction. These advantages and the positive results from this study make the homeopathic agent Coli 30K an attractive potential alternative in the prevention of E.Coli diarrhoea."
Hmmm . . . Food for thought . . . .
So, given the double blind RCT structure of the trial - the 'gold standard' of science, does this research indicate that homeopathy works, double blind RCTs don't work - or that ickle piggies tell great big porkies?
You decide!
To access the article abstract please click here
(Please note that while the abstract is free to access, Elsevier have the copyright to this article so if you want to read the full - much longer article you have to pay a very small sum to download it.)
Warmest wishes,
Jayney
Jayney Goddard
President, The Complementary Medical Association
F
tanya
________________________________
Do Piglets Really Tell Porkies?
A little something to entertain, amuse and inspire
Dear Soroush,
The following was sent to me by organic farmer, homeopathic activist and all round good guy - Oliver Dowding. I was fascinated by this piece of research and I hope you enjoy it too:
Homeopathy Success in Piglets and E Coli
A wonderful research article was only recently published in the journal 'Homeopathy' (Volume 99, Issue 1, January 2010, Pages 57-62 Special Issue: Biological models of homeopathy Part 2)
Here's a quick outline of what happened:
The study in question was a double blind RCT of 52 sows who were randonly treated with Coli 30K or placebo and who subsequently gave birth to 525 piglets.
The study showed that there was a reduction in the incidence of E.Coli diarrhoea. (Results showed that the placebo group had over six times more diarrhoea than the homeopathically treated group (P < 0.0001).
he researchers pointed out that although mean duration of diarrhoea was not significantly different for both groups, 1.86 days on average in the placebo group compared to 1.3 days in the Coli 30K group, the difference of half a day can make large differences in the overall performance of piglets.
The owner of the farm where the experiment was carried out initially quite sceptical about homeopathy. However, after the experiment he decided to apply Coli 30K to all sows. Since then E.Coli diarrhoea has hardly occurred . . . . . .
The authors state that "Advantages at farm level (of E.Coli 30K homeopathic remedy) are ease of application of the treatment by the farmer and cost reduction. These advantages and the positive results from this study make the homeopathic agent Coli 30K an attractive potential alternative in the prevention of E.Coli diarrhoea."
Hmmm . . . Food for thought . . . .
So, given the double blind RCT structure of the trial - the 'gold standard' of science, does this research indicate that homeopathy works, double blind RCTs don't work - or that ickle piggies tell great big porkies?
You decide!
To access the article abstract please click here
(Please note that while the abstract is free to access, Elsevier have the copyright to this article so if you want to read the full - much longer article you have to pay a very small sum to download it.)
Warmest wishes,
Jayney
Jayney Goddard
President, The Complementary Medical Association
F