Are allergy shots bad for you?

[robinsalak]

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to the group, and I've been reading the posts on vaccines. I had asthma as a kid, and recently it came back. My asthma/allergy doctor wanted me to start having allergy shots. They make their own serum on site (the day I come), and she has told me that there is no mercury or other substances in the serum, other than the allergens themselves. Please provide me with information concerning this.

Thanks,

Robin S.

[marthawerling]

Hi Robin - I would ask what type of preservative is in the allergy shots; they need to put something in - sometimes it is phenols. The allergy shots will surpress the symptoms but no cure will come from allergy shots.

Many years ago I tried allergy shots with my son and they did nothing to help him. After 3 1/2 years of classical homeopathy along with 1 year of acupunture my son's seasonal, environmental allergies have been greatly reduced.

I have asthma as well and have been able to forego using my inhaler due to working with a classical homeopath.

I would forego the allergy shots and strongly recommend working with a classical homeopath. It may take some time to see any relief, particularly if you have been using prescription or OTC allopathic medicine but over time you will see results and your asthma will be cured as well.

Best of health.

Martha

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[Lisa Livingston]

Hi Robin:
Also remember that there is a great prophylactic for seasonal spring allergies--Psorinum. I had a client whose allergies in the spring were so bad he was taking Kenalog shots with all the horrible side effects of that drug. This was two years ago when I gave one dose of Psorinum 30c and he hasn't had seasonal allergies since. (He did have a couple of months of exteriorization with mucus, but I kept telling him that was good news!)
This doesn't happen often though! Remedies are curative, allergy shots are suppressive.
All the best,
Lisa

[Sheri Nakken]

ingredients in allergy shots - from another list I am on
Yes
I would find a homeopath to treat you
http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/forum/ ... nallergyex
tract.html

Albumin in allergy extract

This response submitted by Linda Zambenini , RN on 2/7/98.
Email Address: lzambeni@indiana.edu

Ask any allergist what the "diluents" are. They are either a
combination of HSA (human serum albumin),normal saline, and phenol OR
glycerol, normal saline and phenol. The glycerol based solution is
almost always used for skin testing since it has higher viscosity and
thus tends not to "bleed" into adjacent test sites and obscure
results. From my experience working in an Immunization/Travel clinic
it seems most extracts are HSA based, not glycerol. Glycerol is not
used as often because it tends to cause more reactivity and sterile
abcesses especially at larger doses. All this info can be found in
the "Immunofacts" book which we have at our office -it is an
excellent resource book on vaccines and immunobiologicals. I can get
you the publisher and ISBN # if you want it. Also, patients who are
RAST tested for allergies (blood test) instead of skin tested have
their allergy extracts ordered from and produced by large
pharmaceutical companies who deal in immunobiologicals, rather than
having the allergist formulate them in the office. Bayer and Allermed
are a couple of the companies that come to mind. When we get these
vials of allergy extract to administer to a patient they come with
extensive package inserts (you practically need a microscope to read)
just like any other prescription drug. They all use different
formulations - some mix cat pelt allergen using the HSA mixture,
others use this for their dust mites etc... I have read this on the
ingredient list on the package inserts. HSA is used as a protein
stabilizer (as is glycerol) to extend shelf life. Without HSA or
glycerol (ie: just normal saline and phenol} the allergy extract is
only good a short time- I beleive just a few hours or days. Maybe you
could get a package insert from an allergist that employs RAST
testing, or from Bayer if you are interested. Allergy extract
formulated in the allergist's office almost never list the diluents
used - just the allergens (cat,dust, mold, ragweed, pollens,
cockroach,dog etc...).

I learned about allergy extract diluents accidently about 2 weeks ago
when I was flipping through our "Immunofacts" book looking for some
info about a vaccine. There was a single page dedicated to allergenic
diluents - I was quite surprised to learn that HSA was used. I always
thought they were formulated with saline or glycerol and phenol. I
also get allergy shots and contacted my allergist. Sure enough my
dust mites vial was diluted with the HSA diluent. I asked my
allergist to reformulate it and told him my concerns. He has agreed
to do this but made a point of saying it is FDA approved , which it
is. However, I choose to have control over what goes in my body till
more is known. I do not beleive non-essential products (like allergy
extracts) should contain HSA; till more is known these should be
reformulated , which is possible, to eliminate any risk.
http://www.greerlabs.com/47.aspx

WARNINGS
Concentrated extracts must be diluted with a sterile diluent (such as
normal saline, buffered saline, saline with human serum albumin, or
saline with 10% glycerin) prior to use in a patient for intradermal
testing. Concentrates of Allergenic Extracts are manufactured to
assure high potency and have the ability to cause serious local and
systemic reactions including death in sensitive patients. Most
reactions occur within 20 minutes after injection, but may occur
later. To minimize the potential for local or systemic reactions, the
relative sensitivity of the patient must be assessed from the
allergic history and from clinical observations. Patients should be
informed of the possibility of these reactions and the precautions
should be discussed prior to testing
http://www.wramc.amedd.army.mil/departm ... roduct.htm

1. Aqueous Extract Solutions Sterile aqueous stock solutions comprise
the vast majority of allergen extracts on the shelves of the USACAEL.
A typical aqueous extract solution as prepared by our contract
manufacturer, Bayer Laboratories, will contain the active ingredients
or allergens as noted on the label (pollen, dander, molds, dust
etc.). The preservative is 50% V/V glycerin, 0.4% phenol or in a few
instances where phenol cannot be used 0.1% thimerosal. Additional
ingredients include 0.5% sodium chloride and 0.275% sodium
bicarbonate. These solutions should be clear and free from any
particulate matter. The supplied concentration of these solutions is
usually expressed as Protein Nitrogen Units per ml (ie. 10,000 or
20,000 PNU/ml) or Weight per Volume (ie. 1:10 or 1:20 W/V)
concentrations from the manufacturer. The large part of our inventory
(attached) are stocked at PNU/ml and W/V concentrations. The FDA is
working hard to better standardize allergen extract products. The
continued utilization of these products and scientific advances have
aided in the gradual refinement of earlier allergen extract products.
The perfect allergenic extract as been defined as one that contains
all the potential allergens in their native form, in the proper ratio
and with all irrelevant material removed. Currently, however, only a
few relevant "allergens" have been isolated in only a small number of
extract products (Fel d 1 or Cat Allergen 1 in Cat extracts and
Antigen E in Short ragweed extract for example).

Diluents and Preservatives Dilutions of concentrated extracts
prepared for diagnostic testing materials and treatment sets retain
potency longer when diluted with Human Serum Albumin saline diluent
(HSA) than with plain buffered or phenol saline alone. Glycerin is a
superb stabilizer and extracts in 50% solution retain their potency
for considerable periods of time. It must be noted, however, that
when extracts containing more than 10% glycerin are injected, a
burning sensation occurs at the site of injection which is not well
tolerated by patients. Thus, intradermal testing materials (ID) are
diluted with HSA diluent rather than a 50% glycerin solution. Prick
or scratch testing materials, on the other hand, may be diluted and
stabilized with glycerin. This is due to the fact that glycerin is
not irritating on the surface of the skin. Thus, prick or scratch
testing materials are in 50% glycerin. Immunotherapy treatment sets
for patients are diluted down with HSA diluent except where Center-
Al or Allpyral extracts are being used. In instances where these alum-
precipitated extracts are being used the preferred diluent is phenol
saline diluent (0.9% sodium chloride and 0.4% phenol).
Finally found a package insert!

http://www.hollister-stier.com/download ... 07-H02.pdf
OVERDOSAGE: See ADVERSE REACTIONS Section.
DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION:
1. General
Sterile aqueous diluent containing albumin (human) [Albumin Saline
with Phenol (0.4%)] or diluent
of 50% glycerin may be used when preparing dilutions of the
concentrate for immunotherapy. For
intradermal testing dilutions, Albumin Saline with Phenol (0.4%) is
recommended.
Dilutions should be made accurately and aseptically, using sterile
diluent, vials, syringes, etc. Mix
thoroughly and gently by rocking or swirling.
Parenteral drug products should be inspected visually for particulate
matter and discoloration prior
to administration whenever solution and container permit.
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ &
http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases
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[comdyne2002]

Allergy is a reaction by the body to a stimulus that initiates the secretions of cytokines which is a part of the immune response. Most people with allergies actually are over-loaded with chemicals which, in themselves, are toxins. Reaching a threshold after encountering some irritating substance that pushes the immune system past its limits and thus cytokines and histamines are released into the blood stream. A chain reaction follows and all of the classic symptoms manifest.

It is quite possible that food may play a dramatic role in most cases. There is a simple way to determine if food is an issue. Do the following:

At rest take your pulse. Eat one item and take your pulse again after 10 minutes. If the rate changes either up or down more than 10 points you are reacting to that particular food. Most of the time the pulse will increase but it can go down in some instances. By eliminating these reactive foods from the diet temporarily the body often will adjust and those foods can sometimes be re-introduced later in limited amounts and can then become a regular part of the diet once again.

It is vital that you don't eat the same foods on a regular basis. Sooner or later your body will react and what was once a favorite food will become toxic and turn against you. We consume way too much protein and especially animal protein which the body has difficulty in eliminating because as we age we make fewer amounts of digestive hormones. Carmi Hazen

[comdyne2002]

Oooops! Last sentence should read ...fewer amounts of digestive enzymes, not hormones. Carmi Hazen

[Liz Brynin]

Hi Carmi
You wrote the following:
"There is a simple way to determine if food is an issue. Do the following:

At rest take your pulse. Eat one item and take your pulse again after 10 minutes. If the rate changes either up or down more than 10 points you are reacting to that particular food. Most of the time the pulse will increase but it can go down in some instances. By eliminating these reactive foods from the diet temporarily the body often will adjust and those foods can sometimes be re-introduced later in limited amounts and can then become a regular part of the diet once again."

The test you describe is only accurate if you have not eaten any - not even a trace - of the food being tested for at least a week beforehand. Otherwise you may not have any reaction at all, and so assume you can eat that food safely. But in actual fact, what you have is a masked allergy, and your body may be unable to re-act because the allergen is still circulating. So the testing is a waste of time.
The only way to 'challenge' your body accurately is by elimination first, followed by testing the food in isolation after a week without that particular food.
If you want to really know if you are sensitive to certain foods, you have to do a strict elimination diet which takes several weeks. You need to get down to absolute basics, and then build up again, one food at a time, monitoring as you re-introduce each one.
if you want to know more, e-mail me off-list and I'll send you an e-book about it.
Liz

[Dale Moss]

Sheri,
Note the mention of phenol later in the extract, below:
"I was quite surprised to learn that HSA was used. I always
thought they were formulated with saline or glycerol and phenol."
Lou Klein believes allergy shots have a terrible miasmatic impact because of the prevalence of phenol. As he writes:
"If the allopathc allergy shots worked in the way that reasonably deep thinking individuals like to see curative therapies work, then we should expect to see less allergic offspring. In fact, what we see now is school boards starting to prohibit youngsters from bringing many foods to school, especially peanuts, becuse of the risk of severe allergic reactions when sharing food with their little friends. The allerge response of the next generation, from what I can gather, has gotten much worse with an even higher rate of morbidity and mortality! I now see many more young children with life threatening allergic conditions, in some part due to al the phenol injected in the previous generation."
Peace,
Dale

[Sheri Nakken]

I would agree that that is possible - next generation
but the MAIN reason for the allergic conditions in children is the injection of vaccinations which prime the immune system in the wrong way - over priming TH2 in most cases, causing more allergic response.

Sheri

At 02:39 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote:

[Kathryn]

Hi,

I'm new to this group also. I have been successful in curing my asthma with classical homeopathy. I am fortunate enough to have a homeopath a few blocks from my home. The real test for cure came a month ago when I had an URI. I did not wheeze at any time during that illness, which is miraculous for me. Every illness used to result in a worsening of my asthma. Homeopathy works!

Kathy
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