Bi Polar

[Rochelle Marsden]

Is there a specific rubric for Bi Polar or is it just under the Mania rubric?
Thanks
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Teresa Kramer]

As someone who suffers from Bipolar II (as it is classified now in the psych manual—the D something in the US), I know that there are at the very least two quite distinct forms of “bipolar” disorder. My form has only so-called hypomania, not mania. For years I resisted the diagnosis as the old manic depression stuff did not apply. I think you will have to go with symptom picture as usual, but if it is my kind, you might look at Nat. sulph. which has *severe* or total insomnia (as does Thuja, I believe) my major symptom, and other sx that occur in Bipolar II. Teresa (Northern VA)
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Is there a specific rubric for Bi Polar or is it just under the Mania rubric?
Thanks

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Rochelle Marsden]

Thanks for that - so there isn't a specific rubric. I had forgotten about the 2 types.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[d rona]

While I appreciate that within the traditional medical system (and insurance system) they need to have a few pidgin-hole terms such as Bipolar 1 and 2 – or such - for billing codes and acceptable protocols – I am hopeful they will eventually classify this as a ‘spectrum’ disorder to allow for a more individualized diagnosis and treatment plan.
Donna
D C Rona, PhD, ND, DHM
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rochelle Marsden
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 1:44 PM
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Subject: Fw: [Minutus] Bi Polar
Thanks for that - so there isn't a specific rubric. I had forgotten about the 2 types.
Rochelle

Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Joy Lucas]

And I cannot imagine why there would be a one specific rubric for the so called disease name either.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[healthinfo6]

Teresa,
Do you really have insomnia or just disturbed sleep cycles or a altered body rhythm? I sleep great from around 6am to 11am and have always been a nite owl., Instead of fighting it, I use it to my advantage. I know I begin to feel and function best when sunsets, reaching an apex around 3am and become groggy, tired when sunrises. I've learned not to make early morning appointments, airline flights, etc. When I had to work a 9-5 job, I was always trying to get to bed early but never could change the rhythm. Medh LM was the first remedy I ever took and one day I hope to try it again as it has the sunset rubric among others that fit. But taking it as an LM daily led to a major bipolar aggravation, so I know it must be a good remedy to cause that. Too bad some homeopaths don't know much about it and ignore my request to take it again. Though I do have a really good constitutional that covers all my miasms, there seems to be a place for this anti-miasmatic nosode, maybe as intercurrent.
Susan

[Teresa Kramer]

Thanks for the suggestion, Susan.
Normally I would answer off-list but since it is, as I realize, hard to believe and maybe someday you practitioners will encounter it: my form of “insomnia” which I have had now at numerous intervals over 11 years (when not on lithium, that is, which I have only taken part of the time) is indeed profound, i.e., total.
I can’t fall asleep, day or night, and if I should happen to doze for a moment, I am jerked awake by some sort of inner mechanism. It is a horrible feeling. Somehow, it should be a fatal problem, but I know for sure I have gone 17 days without sleeping once—and then went to the ER and was given a standard sleeping med that did nothing at all; had to find a psychiatrist.
Once a psychiatrist said, “why don’t you just nap?” I wonder what part of the above statement he did not understand. I am awake until I get some (awful!) sort of prescription psych meds (the kind you have to sign for at the pharmacy; I have suppressed the names) that should facilitate sleep for hours. For me they work only for 3 hours of light and disturbed sleep and then I am awake again.
I have been under usually excellent homeopathic care for several of the episodes—different homeopaths—and none of them ever found a remedy that would help. AFAIK, no one ever gave me Medorrhinum or any other nosode, though I was given a number of other remedies. Each time I had to fall back on the shrink and psych meds and only lithium has offered any lasting relief.
Just FWIW, as I have said before on this list, all of my father’s 7 siblings had some form of bipolar disorder, but they died long ago and I doubt if it was ever diagnosed as anything but “depression”. Of course I also have “depression” and “anxiety” and am “suicidal”, but it is the accompanying total insomnia that is the chief complaint, I think. Teresa (Northern VA)
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:38 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Bi Polar
Teresa,
Do you really have insomnia or just disturbed sleep cycles or a altered body rhythm? I sleep great from around 6am to 11am and have always been a nite owl., Instead of fighting it, I use it to my advantage. I know I begin to feel and function best when sunsets, reaching an apex around 3am and become groggy, tired when sunrises. I've learned not to make early morning appointments, airline flights, etc. When I had to work a 9-5 job, I was always trying to get to bed early but never could change the rhythm. Medh LM was the first remedy I ever took and one day I hope to try it again as it has the sunset rubric among others that fit. But taking it as an LM daily led to a major bipolar aggravation, so I know it must be a good remedy to cause that. Too bad some homeopaths don't know much about it and ignore my request to take it again. Though I do have a really good constitutional that covers all my miasms, there seems to be a place for this anti-miasmatic nosode, maybe as intercurrent.
Susan