Dear all
Some time ago I have written some mails about the origin of Ignatia. Until now none of the pharmacies I have written to have responded. My view right now is that botanically speaking Strychnos ignatii/ignatia is the same as Strychnos colubrina or Strychnos wallichiana. What I would like to know is what the modern pharmacies are using to make the homeopathic Ignatia, since the source material as such (Strychnos ignatia, Ignatia amara) is unknown. Is this some homeopathic remedy like curare (source material unknown, but still produced)?
Ignatia origin, a follow up
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Re: Ignatia origin, a follow up
Dear Gaby,
I have been contacting Robert but he could not find anything in terms of good info. The point is: Ignatia can be found on internet only in old drawings of a Plant called Strychnos ignatia. but there is no follow up on this, no photos that could be verified botanically, nothing. A closely related species like Strychnos nux vomica can be found easily, so can Strychnos colubrina, although even that species, potentially the same as Strychnos ignatia, is a doubtful species.
Robert Müntz sent me some seeds that I will try to plant and document, if it will work I won't know til I do: right clima, soil etc. The good thing is: I am in Thailand and the species is vaguely documented as also be found here.
Any more clarity from pharmacies might help, they can contact their source providers about it, couldn't they Hello Pharmacists?
be well,
Roger
I have been contacting Robert but he could not find anything in terms of good info. The point is: Ignatia can be found on internet only in old drawings of a Plant called Strychnos ignatia. but there is no follow up on this, no photos that could be verified botanically, nothing. A closely related species like Strychnos nux vomica can be found easily, so can Strychnos colubrina, although even that species, potentially the same as Strychnos ignatia, is a doubtful species.
Robert Müntz sent me some seeds that I will try to plant and document, if it will work I won't know til I do: right clima, soil etc. The good thing is: I am in Thailand and the species is vaguely documented as also be found here.
Any more clarity from pharmacies might help, they can contact their source providers about it, couldn't they Hello Pharmacists?
be well,
Roger
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Re: Ignatia origin, a follow up
Dear Roger,
ok - I understand. Hope you will be successful with the seeds.
Perhaps helpful:
Hahnemann's description of Ignatia in his Apothekerlexikon:
http://www.heilpflanzen-welt.de/buecher ... ikon/b/bit
terignatz.htm
Hope your German is well enough!;-)
I think it's a very good description ("tree with long white pending
flowers, with the smell of jasmin, and pear-shaped fruits...")
He also gives the reference for a table/drawings (Camelli's work), so
may be you get some info there as well.
And here you'll find a good description as well:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/26393/26 ... .htm#pb171
The Medicinal Plants of the Philippines
By
T. H. Pardo De Tavera, 1901
Best,
Gaby
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Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de
http://www.curantur.de
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ok - I understand. Hope you will be successful with the seeds.
Perhaps helpful:
Hahnemann's description of Ignatia in his Apothekerlexikon:
http://www.heilpflanzen-welt.de/buecher ... ikon/b/bit
terignatz.htm
Hope your German is well enough!;-)
I think it's a very good description ("tree with long white pending
flowers, with the smell of jasmin, and pear-shaped fruits...")
He also gives the reference for a table/drawings (Camelli's work), so
may be you get some info there as well.
And here you'll find a good description as well:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/26393/26 ... .htm#pb171
The Medicinal Plants of the Philippines
By
T. H. Pardo De Tavera, 1901
Best,
Gaby
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de
http://www.curantur.de
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: Ignatia origin, a follow up
whoo, that is nice, thanks for the Apotheker Lexikon tip, does not help for Ignatia but helps me. I have a copy at home, but some cannot be read.
thanks
Roger
thanks
Roger