LM REMRDIES and Dr. Bill Gray views

[HomeoDidact]

Hi,
This is what Dr. Bill Gray says about LMs.

Is it your experience too that "The water should be distilled water . This can be found at any
supermarket, or in many markets in areas where steam irons are
used. … Other waters that do NOT work are “purified,” “de-ionized,” “filtered,” “mineral,” “spring” water"?
Regards

Rafy

www.billgrayhomeopathy.com
LM POTENCIES
LM (also called "Q") potencies are a delivery system invented by Samuel Hahnemann toward the end of his illustrious life. “LM” represents the Roman numeral for “50,000.” They are called LM potencies because the dilution factor is 1/50,000 — instead of the other customary method of 1/100 dilution (called “c” potencies).
LM potencies were developed based on clinical experience that the body responds gently and effectively to repeated potencies. LMs are a liquid prepared by the pharmacy, then shaken and diluted at least daily by the patient. Thus, each day the body is stimulated gently to a slightly higher degree, slowly raising the level of health until a threshold is reached within 20 days or so.

After that, single isolated doses are taken as boosters only when needed.
LM potencies require a little more work — usually ten seconds or so for each dose. Their advantages are myriad, however.
When everything is going well, doses can be stopped altogether. When stress levels exceed tolerance, booster doses are taken as needed. Thus, doses are customized to the ups and downs of life.
This cannot be said for the “c” potencies (given only once in the office and only very cautiously thereafter). Clinically, I have found that “c” potencies tend to last less long than they used to decades ago. It could be that there are more antidotes in the environment that are as yet unknown. LMs mitigate this problem through frequency of dose.
It is still wise to avoid known antidotes such as coffee (even decaf), camphor, tea tree oil, drilling on teeth (unless there is pain), electric blankets, mothballs, and hot springs — but when these are encountered through error or forgetfulness, LM potencies render antidotes less critical.
The Protocol
For the vast majority of cases, a simple protocol suffices. Doses are taken once daily (any time of day) for 20 days. This serves as an initial “loading” stimulus. If the remedy is correct for the total person, this stimulates the body to heal itself — an effect which may continue for weeks, months, even years.
Thereafter, single isolated booster doses are taken only as needed — for relapse symptoms, injury (auto accident, bruise, sprain), fever, cold or flu, strong emotional stress, or any other health event.
Depending on the case, I may ask you to take one routine dose a week instead (not counting the initial 20 daily doses).
In extreme cases (very high fever are severe injury), doses may be taken hourly until there is improvement.
It is impossible to overdose in the sense of causing side effects.
However, once the initial “loading” 20 days is past, the body does not listen to each dose as well if they are given too often. Single isolated doses work better after the “loading” 20 days are over.
Occasionally, doses may be taken two or three days in a row when really needed, but more tend to be ineffective.
If symptoms seem to require taking doses daily for two full weeks (not counting the “loading” 20 days), there is something wrong. That is an indication for an appointment for re-evaluation.
Normally, routine follow-ups for review and to evaluate the remedy action are scheduled for six weeks, then at three months and six months, assuming good progress.
The Technique
The pharmacy prepares a Stock Bottle, labeled “LM1”. I order the remedy via email to have the pharmacy send it to the address you request. Usually you receive it within 3 or 4 working days.
All homeopathic remedies are prepared by a process of shaking and diluting . In combination, these alter the structure of water and its associated electromagnetic field in ways unique to the remedy. Shaking (or “ succusion” as homeopaths call it) alone does nothing to the water. Dilution alone does nothing.
But shaking and dilution in sequence generates “snowflake”-like clusters shaped uniquely to the remedy. Shaking increases the number of clusters, while diluting increases their size by recruiting more water molecules. This phenomenon happens only in distilled water.
How you prepare each dose follows:
1) Hold the Stock Bottle firmly, and pound it firmly against a phone book or similar hard surface.
The standard routine is 10 succussions . This does not mean 9 or 11.
If I tell you otherwise for any reason, follow my instructions.

2) Dilute 7 drops from the succussed stock bottle into 4 oz. (half cup) of distilled water.
The water should be distilled water . This can be found at any
supermarket, or in many markets in areas where steam irons are
used. … Other waters that do NOT work are “purified,” “de-ionized,” “filtered,” “mineral,” “spring” water.
The cup can be made of glass, plastic, or probably even styrofoam. It is OK to use the same container over and over because higher potencies (higher = more shaken and more diluted) supercede lower potencies.
3) Stir the dilution a few times.
The spoon may be made of any material.
4) Take about 1/2 tsp of the dilution in your mouth — a “sip” is fine.
Throw away the rest of the dilution water.

You only need the stimulation from shaking and diluting. That is what affects the body. At this point, one drop really is the same as the whole 4 oz.
When the liquid in the stock bottle reaches the bottom, simply refill it with distilled water. This reactivates all the water at the potency level you have already shaken/diluted into the bottle. You may keep refilling the bottle indefinitely. It does not get weaker. It gets stronger.
Precautions
Try to avoid strong odors in the environment when preparing and taking the remedy. Certain aromatic odors such as perfumes, strong cooking odors, chewing gum, perhaps even toothpaste, could interfere with the remedy before it is even ingested.
Some people say not to have anything to eat or drink for 15 min before and after taking the remedy. This is primarily in order to avoid strong odors, but is completely unnecessary.
What to Expect
Unless I specify otherwise, you will take one dose daily for 20 days (initial “loading” doses), then as needed thereafter (or perhaps once weekly, if I so direct).

A follow-up visit will usually be planned at the six week mark. At six weeks, we generally hope to see about 10% to 20% improvement — only. Homeopathy is not generally a miracle cure in chronic disease, so slow progress is expected. This continues month by month until total cure within one or two years.
These guesstimates vary hugely, of course, but the generalization is helpful to dispel undue expectations.
One advantage of LMs is that it is common to sense subtle, transient changes after each dose, even though it takes six weeks to have a clear idea of progress.
At six weeks, if there is no progress at all, the remedy is probably wrong and will need to be changed.

[Sheri Nakken]

I use distilled water to drink and to mix my remedies but not everyone has that and I have seen no problem using any other pure water.

He is NOT instructing how to give LMs correctly - not following the Organon

He is giving it NON individualized and that is not how they are meant to be given.

His dosing is not proper - I was once a patient of his long long ago and for many reasons, found another practitioner.

It IS possible to overdose - causing serious aggravations.

This needs to be monitored and NOT give automatically daily for 20 days.

Sheri

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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

LM remedies are Hn's perfected system of administering remedies.
David Little has written about LMs extensively.
You can search his writings on Minutus. I would recommend you start with
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mi ... sage/28229
Rgds
Soroush

[Kerry]

I use distilled water to drink and to mix my remedies but not everyone has that and I have seen no problem using any other pure water.
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[Kerry]

Sending again as it came through blank.
I too had frequently heard that you should only use distilled water,
though I have used mineral water. As I had five minutes to spare, I did
a quick search of the Organon and Chronic diseases to see where the
references to distilled water occur:

"To one grain of the medicinal powder triturated to the millionfold
potency I, fifty drops of distilled water are dropped in and by turning
the vial a few times round on its axis it is easily dissolved, when
fifty drops of good alcohol * are added, and the vial, which ought only
to be filled to two-thirds of its capacity by the mixture, ought to be
stoppered and shaken twice (i. e. with two down-strokes of the arm). It
is marked with the name of the medicine and /100 I.??? + One drop of
this is added to ninety-nine or one hundred drops of pure alcohol, the
stoppered vial is then shaken with two strokes of the arm and marked
with the name of the medicine and designated /10000 I. ??? One drop of
this is added to ninety-nine or one hundred drops of pure alcohol, the
corked vial is then shaken with two strokes of the arm and marked with
the name of the medicine and II. The preparation of the higher potencies
is then continued with two strokes of the arm ++ every time to the /100
II ???, /10000 II, III ???, etc., but to attain a simple uniformity in
practice only the vials with the full"

"But since water (even distilled water) commences after a few days to be
spoil, whereby the power of the small quantity of medicine contained is
destroyed, the addition of a little alcohol is necessary, or where this
is not practicable, or if the patient cannot bear it, I add a few small
pieces of hard charcoal to the watery solution. This answers the
purpose, except that in the latter case the fluid in a few days receives
a blackish tint. This is caused by shaking the liquid, as is necessary
every time before giving a dose of medicine, as may be seen below."

"Sec. #270 is wholly re-written in the Sixth Edition, as follows: ["In
order to best obtain this development of power, a small part of the
substance to be dynamized, say one grain, is triturated for three hours
with three times one hundred grains sugar of milk according to the
method described below (1) up to the one-millionth part in powder form.
For reasons given below (b) one grain of this powder is dissolved in 500
drops of a mixture of one part of alcohol and four parts of distilled
water, of which one drop is put in a vial. To this are added 100 drops
of pure alcohol (2) and given one hundred strong succussions with the
hand against a hard but elastic body. (3) This is the medicine in the
first degree of dynamization with which small sugar globules (4) may
then be moistened. (5) and quickly spread on blotting paper to dry and
kept in a well-corked vial with the sign of (I) degree of potency. Only
one (6) globule of this is taken for further dynamization, put in a
second new vial (with a drop a water in order to dissolve it) and then
with 100 drops of good alcohol and dynamized in the same way with 100
powerful succussions."
In all other places he only mentions 'water' and on one occasion I found
a mention to pure water. I would have thought that as Hahnemann was so
precise in his instructions he would have stated distilled water in all
places if that was so vital to his methods. It appears from searching
both books for references that distilled water is only vital for the
actual making of the remedy rather than for the administration to
individuals.

Kerry

[Joy Lucas]

But in those days, water, per se would have been a quite nasty
encounter, hence the distilled preference.

I have no problem with any kind of water, whatever is preferred, but
it is just the 'carrier' for the rx - being as non interfering as
possible is what counts.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[Theresa Partington]

What Bill Gray says about distilled water does make sense if you think of imprints on water . All your succussing etc is working on the other stuff in the water, too, presumably. However, to say flatly that it 'doesn't work' to use other water is patently false. Distilled water is unobtainable in our local pharmacies these days and I haven't used it for years. The de-ionised water they sell for irons and batteries is actually not recommended for human consumption. My patients respond fine to liquid potencies in bottled or sometimes filtered water and it has alcohol in it anyway (being potentised with every shake). I have even had happy patients telling me that they have have been taking their miracle medicine in their morning coffee! Not something I recommend, I might add.Theresa
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[Kerry]

Wasn't there one of the old French Homeopaths who frequently gave
remedies in coffee, a homeopath who specialised in treated mental
disorders and wrote a book or books? I was trying to think of his name
last night.

Kerry

[Kerry]

It was Gallivardin - I have just remembered where it was mentioned: The
Art of Case Taking by Pierre Schmidt:

"He cured so many cases, you cannot imagine. Patients were cured even
without their knowing that they are taking the remedy because the remedy
was given in wine, even in the coffee and the milk and it worked
beautifully. Of course, we say coffee antidotes the remedy but the
coffee is in a crude state while the dynamised spiritualised state of
remedy is something quite different. But it acts still, even with
coffee. "

Kerry

[Elham Mohajer]

I have usede LM potencies quite a bit. In one case where Sulph 10M failed to do anything Sulph 0/3 cured. In some diseases you can hardly get any results unless you use LM - for example in cases of Osteo-arthritis. You should give a locally acting LM potency first and when the pains are cured then you can give a constitutional.
Best regards
Elham Mohajer