Mycobacterium chelonae

[Mair MacKinnon]

Has anyone had any experience with treating this infection? Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mair

Mair MacKinnon, N.D.
Traditional Naturopathy
http://web.me.com/mairmackinnon

[Jean Doherty]

No experience but,
Looking at pictures of leg ulcers they seemed deep and have rolled edges ?? Kali Bic.
Also the pictures reminded me of an old lady I had with leg ulcers that responded to Flouric ac.
The bacteria involved said to be related to tuberculosis so ?? Bacillinum.
Are there any modalities or specific state?/, Jean

[Mair MacKinnon]

Thanks for the imput, Jean! Unfortunately I haven't seen the man because he's in Texas and I'm in California, so not sure if he's got the leg ulcers, but I'll definitely check it out. His brother is my client and asked me if there's any way I can help him. I thought I read that it isn't tubercular. I'll have to go back and reread that!

Thanks for taking the time to look at all of this!!

Mair

Mair MacKinnon, N.D.
Traditional Naturopathy
http://web.me.com/mairmackinnon
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From: Jean Doherty
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 1:10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Mycobacterium chelonae
No experience but,
Looking at pictures of leg ulcers they seemed deep and have rolled edges ?? Kali Bic.
Also the pictures reminded me of an old lady I had with leg ulcers that responded to Flouric ac.
The bacteria involved said to be related to tuberculosis so ?? Bacillinum.
Are there any modalities or specific state?/, Jean

[Jean Doherty]

The wording on research as follows Tuberculosis is caused by a Mycobacterium and the chelonae I presumed was a relative, Best Wishes, Jean

Background

Mycobacterium chelonae and Mycobacterium abscessus are nontuberculous mycobacteria (NTM), a grouping that encompasses all mycobacteria outside of the Mycobacterium tuberculosis complex. They are classified in the Runyon group IV, rapidly growing mycobacteria. They have been found in natural and processed water sources, as well as in sewage, and are especially common in tap water. Distribution is probably worldwide.
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[Mair MacKinnon]

Hi Jean,

OK, so in that case, Bacillinum probably wouldn't be a good choice, wouldn't you say? I'll try to find out more specifics and modalities and post them. His brother's description is that he has so many physical problems it's a bit overwhelming, but I wanted to at least try to address this infection if possible, as it says that it's pretty dire for immune compromised individuals.

Thanks!

Mair

Mair MacKinnon, N.D.
Traditional Naturopathy
http://web.me.com/mairmackinnon
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From: Jean Doherty
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:58:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Mycobacterium chelonae
The wording on research as follows Tuberculosis is caused by a Mycobacterium and the chelonae I presumed was a relative, Best Wishes, Jean
Background

Mycobacterium chelonae and Mycobacterium abscessus are nontuberculous mycobacteria (NTM), a grouping that encompasses all mycobacteria outside of the Mycobacterium tuberculosis complex. They are classified in the Runyon group IV, rapidly growing mycobacteria. They have been found in natural and processed water sources, as well as in sewage, and are especially common in tap water. Distribution is probably worldwide.
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[Jean Doherty]

Well ,I would think maybe wrongly that it should be considered but the context of the full picture would have to be studied.
Does not sound like something one would be confident about at a distance. Old problems returning on a remedy when the client is not really with you is a nightmare. Jean
Jean
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[Mair MacKinnon]

Yes, Jean, I totally agree! I just feel like it might be his last hope! None of it sounds good from where I'm sitting!! I know I can help him with some of his other health problems even at a distance, but it will certainly take time and he may not have the time if the infection takes him off. It's such an issue, isn't it? He's out in the middle of nowhere with no alternative healthcare available. What to do!!

Mair

Mair MacKinnon, N.D.
Traditional Naturopathy
http://web.me.com/mairmackinnon
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From: Jean Doherty
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:19:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Mycobacterium chelonae
Well ,I would think maybe wrongly that it should be considered but the context of the full picture would have to be studied.

Does not sound like something one would be confident about at a distance. Old problems returning on a remedy when the client is not really with you is a nightmare. Jean
Jean
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