Med Proving - was - In defense of secrecy -was HIV AIDS treatments.. .etc

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Joy
In parallel to a 'proper' college proving in which I was involved, the remedy was also meditatively proved.
The shock was how much cross over there was between the two - by that I mean similarity of experienced symptoms!
I would not like to hang my practise on Med proving of substances and would not want to see them brought into our repertories - I think they should be kept separately from the rest of the information.
My concern is that I can do the Hahnemannian proving, but I cannot do the meditative one. So perhaps that is where the problem lies.
There are forces in this world that we know little about - but we need to be cautious how they are handled!
Soroush

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joy Lucas
Sent: 01 September 2009 15:39
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] In defense of "secrecy" -was HIV AIDS treatments.. .etc
Thanks Rochelle. Although there is nothing wrong with there just being 1 prover I have very little interest or faith in meditative provings. Such paucity of proving information is a waste.

Does the book give any reason for there not being hahnemannian provings or why med provings were chosen.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
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[Chris_Gillen]

The *variable* we're supposed to test in a proving is the *drug substance*, not the interconnectedness of all living beings and other psychic phenomena. So why bother?
In J. Scholten's case, the variable being tested would be the radionic machine that his chemical combinations are made on - if the bonds are too unstable to exist the natural world.
Chris
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[Joy Lucas]

Precisely, thanks Chris. If meditative provings are designated second rate (correctly so imo) from the outset then why bother. We have been given more that apt instruction from Hahnemann on how to conduct provings - let it suffice.

I actually think that 'completing' the periodic table could be a great service to homeopathy, so let's do it properly.
Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[Rochelle]

Do you know that they have been made radionically???
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Chris_Gillen]

I think I can remember Julian Winston commenting several years ago on the way Scholten's remedies were being manufactured on radionic machines. Perhaps our brilliant and congenial archivist, Lyn Cremona, can access a copy of the email to the List ?? Apparently the remedies contravened HPUS(?) labelling standards (or some European equivalent) because they were not actually standard pharmaceutical preparations - so it was false advertising as per the labelling. Some of the chemical bonds represented in the remedies he was inventing at that time were so unstable they can't actually exist in nature for more than a fraction of a second. So the only way they can be manufactured is via the radionic machine. Can you update or correct this information?
Chris.
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[Joy Lucas]

If you go here

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mi ... sage/17744 it is possible you'll need to log on

and scroll down to all the messages listed in that topic you'll find a number of posts from JW concerning this.

Also to say I have always been concerned about how these rx have been made. That excellent pharmacy Remedia state on each of the individual Lanths how and what they use as the starting material. I have asked them to send me more information.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

In essence, what would be the difference between Radionic remedies and PC remedies?
Has any one done a traditional proving of a Radionic remedy?
Best wishes
Soroush

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joy Lucas
Sent: 01 September 2009 20:57
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus]Med Proving - was - In defense of "secrecy" -was HIV AIDS treatments.. .etc
Precisely, thanks Chris. If meditative provings are designated second rate (correctly so imo) from the outset then why bother. We have been given more that apt instruction from Hahnemann on how to conduct provings - let it suffice.

I actually think that 'completing' the periodic table could be a great service to homeopathy, so let's do it properly.
Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[Rochelle]

Having now received today the Lanthanide book and other new books for my ISIS software it is easier to search. The Rx Scholten reckons for AIDS is Thulium
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Joy Lucas]

I wonder why it has been described as a complex or combination then. If it were just this rx then why not call it that instead of Iquilai. Does it say why he thinks Thulium might be useful - although looking at the linked substances (phos, ars, bismuth) you can see possibilities.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[tg.partington]

Hello Joy
I don't think anyone said it was a complex or combination. Didi mentioned the possibility that it might be a compound rather than the element alone. Do you get compounds of the Lathanides? I wouldn't know.
Theresa
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