If a severe flu strikes in which people with strong immune systems are succumbing such as happened in 1918 or with SARS or H5N1 avian flu, avoid the following herbs and foods:
*Elderberry juice
*Chlorella and spirulina
*Honey
*Chocolate
*Echinacea
*Kimchi
All of the above increase production of the cytokines NTF-a or IL-6 or both.
For any respiratory illness, also avoid dairy products and bananas, because they increase mucous production.
The following herbs, vitamins and foods are helpful against respiratory illnesses:
Garlic: crush and eat raw as a great anti-viral (for the last flu, I cut a clove of garlic in half and stuck the cut ends into my nose. A face mask is just the ticket for holding them in place! This worked wonders.)
Vitamin C: 1000 mg/hr for the first 6 hours, then 1000 mg three times a day. Blocks neuraminidase (by which viruses replicate) and inhibits TNF-a and IL-6 production.
Green tea: works as well as Tamiflu to inhibit neuraminidase. Also inhibits TNF-a production.
St. Johns Wort: Great anti-viral effects. Reduces IL-6. Used effectively in Vietnam against H5N1 avian flu.
Vitamin E: boosts immunity. Especially effective with Vitamin C, good for the elderly.
Apples: anti-viral. The peel is the best. The flesh may be too sugary for some.
Resveratrol: proven anti-viral. Inhibits neuraminidase. Found in red wine, peanuts, mulberries, raisins and red grapes.
Skullcap: Anti-viral. May inhibit neuraminidase. Drink as herb tea.
Cranberry juice: possible anti-viral.
Cats claw: reduces TNF-a production. Boosts immunity. Not good for children or pregnant women.
Curcumin: yellow substance in tumeric. Reduces TNF-a. Research indicates possibly effective in preventing cytokine storms. Must be taken together with black pepper or it will be metabolized in the intestine and liver. Should be avoided by pregant or nursing women. Dosage of 400~5,000 mg/day.
Astragalus root: boosts immunity.
Tea tree oil steam inhalation: possibly reduces TNF-a. Hot water in bowl with 2 drops tea tree oil, towel over head.
Source: Australian biologist Stephen Jones http://www.the-health-gazette-blog/alte ... antivirals
Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
Jennifer Ruby
Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
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Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
what i would note is that the vit c regimen below is too weak a protocol
when really sick. i used a similar protocol of 1gram/hour and got minimal
results if sick. what does work is taking about 5gr first hour and repeating
5 gr every couple of hours till improvement is noted. for me i have found
taking 18-20 gr/daily for a few days before backing off slowly works. i have
tried this with others with a similar success.
vitamin c is one product that can easily be individualized by increasing the
amount to bowel tolerance.
tanya
when really sick. i used a similar protocol of 1gram/hour and got minimal
results if sick. what does work is taking about 5gr first hour and repeating
5 gr every couple of hours till improvement is noted. for me i have found
taking 18-20 gr/daily for a few days before backing off slowly works. i have
tried this with others with a similar success.
vitamin c is one product that can easily be individualized by increasing the
amount to bowel tolerance.
tanya
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mary hughes
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
http://www.naturalnews.com/026354_elder ... ystem.html
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http://www.prlog.org/10038472-elder...
http://femailhealthnews.blogspot.co...
Dr. Gabriel Cousens Protocol for Prevention and Treatment of Swine Flu
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Dr. Gabriel Cousens Protocol for Prevention and Treatment of Swine Flu
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
is there evidence that elderberry tincture, store purchased, has the
same efficacy as fresh, homemade tincture? it is probably pretty
impossible for most people to access fresh elderberry.
tanya
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http://www.prlog.org/10038472-elder...
http://femailhealthnews.blogspot.co...
Dr. Gabriel Cousens Protocol for Prevention and Treatment of Swine Flu
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same efficacy as fresh, homemade tincture? it is probably pretty
impossible for most people to access fresh elderberry.
tanya
http://www.naturalnews.com/026354_elder ... ystem.html
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http://www.prlog.org/10038472-elder...
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Dr. Gabriel Cousens Protocol for Prevention and Treatment of Swine Flu
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Ruby wrote:
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mary hughes
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
Possibly not, I have however just given three people with flu....one with tested swine flu and suffering from Lupus, the other two flu/heavy cold symptoms...aching bones, sore upper respiratory, sore throat, headache, nasal discharge, temperature....Elderberry syrup made with manuka honey and cloves, Elderflower syrup and rosehip syrup...all home made... the two supposed cases clear and well in 6 days..the tested case still a little vit D deficient but improving daily...undoubtably caused by some effect of the Lupus.
All are very pleased and so is the doctor in charge of the Lupus sufferer.
There is also this which may be of interest.
Sambucol
Israel's Elderberry Remedy Sambucol is Solution to U.S. Flu Vaccine >Shortage.
http://www.allbusiness.com/middle-east/ ... 750-1.html
By Israel21c.org
Americans are nervously bracing for the expected flu vaccine shortage as health experts predict people will begin feeling the effects of the flu by this month. But as the hundreds of thousands of Americans who use Israel's elderberry extract Sambucol will tell you,
vaccines aren't the only answer to alleviating the flu's debilitating symptoms.
Nicknamed 'nature's flu fighter', Sambucol - which is produced by Jerusalem-based company Razei Bar - has been clinically proven to eliminate flu symptoms within one to two days. A standardized extract, the 100% natural Sambucol contains a potent antiviral compound, AntiVirin as well as a high amount of three flavonoids, naturally occurring plant antioxidants.
Developed by prominent Israeli virologist Dr. Madeleine Mumcuoglu, Sambucol is derived from the black elder tree, Sambucus nigra L. Beginning in the 1970s, Mumcuoglu began research that led to her discovery of the key active ingredient in elderberry.
"I became interested in the natural healing elements of elderberry when I did my PhD on it in Switzerland," Mumcuoglu told ISRAEL21c. "I isolated the active substances from the elderberry and tested them against the flu virus, and found them to be effective. After finishing my studies, I came back to Israel and continued to work on research for about 10 years at the Hadassah Medical Center in Jerusalem."
According to Mumcuoglu, the black elderberry has been known since the 5th century BCE and was mentioned in the writings of Hippocrates, Dioscurides and Plinius. It can be found in every pharmacopoeia. Elderberry wine was traditionally used for influenza and the ill effects of the chills, and the juice of the black elderberry has historically been an invaluable remedy.
After assessing its effectiveness against the flu during her research, which was conducted in collaboration with the Department of Virology, Hebrew University School of Medicine, Mumcuoglu decided to commercialize an elderberry supplement she named Sambucol, and founded Razei Bar in 1992. Mumcuoglu was able to test her products on patients during a flu epidemic in southern Israel in the winter of 1992-93.
The results were very encouraging. Within 24 hours, 20% of those patients taking Sambucol had dramatic improvements in symptoms like fever, muscle aches and pains and coughing. By the second day, 73% had shown improvement, and by Day Three, 90%. In the untreated group, only 16% felt better after two days. The majority of that group began feeling better only after a week.
Another double-blind placebo-controlled clinical study was conducted using Sambucol during an outbreak of influenza B Panama. A significant alleviation of symptoms, including fever, was seen in 93.3% of the cases in the Sambucol treated group within 2 days. A complete cure was achieved within 2 to 3 days in nearly 90% of the Sambucol treated group compared to at least 6 days in the placebo group.
Most recently, in a randomized, double blind, placebo-controlled study conducted in Norway, Sambucol was shown to significantly reduce the duration of the flu by approximately four days. The use of rescue medication (pain relievers , etc.) was significantly less in the group receiving Sambucol than in the placebo group.
The study concluded that Sambucol stimulates the healthy immune system by increasing production of inflammatory cytokines. Cytokine production was measured using monocytes, derived from the blood of 12 healthy volunteers, which were incubated with four different Sambucol products: Sambucol Black Elderberry Extract, Sambucol Black Elderberry Syrup, Sambucol Immune System, and Sambucol for Kids.
Mumcuoglo will not divulge the exact makeup of Sambucol and what makes it different from other elderberry extracts, but stressed that Sambucol stands alone among elderberry extracts.
"I was the first to introduce the elderberry in the U.S., and now there are about 70 copycats. But to our credit, we still have about 80% of the market. We have a very special recipe. It's very easy to destroy the active element, which is why most of those other products aren't effective," she said. Even though the product is produced and manufactured in Israel, the elderberries are imported from Europe, as the Middle East does not offer the proper climate for growing them.
Sambucol costs $12 for 30 lozenges, and can be found in just about any health food store in the U.S. It's distributed by Nature's Way Products. Sambucol is also sold in Canada, the United Kingdom, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, Israel, South Korea, Singapore and New Zealand.
"I think that Sambucol has a great role to play - it really can save lives. To my knowledge, it's the only product that can cut the duration of the flu in half, before complications have a chance to develop. At least 30,000 deaths are reported due to flu complications every year in the US.," Mumcuoglo said.
"I'm very concerned about the situation in the US. Half the population that has been receiving the vaccine in the past will not get it this year. Many of them will get sick, and transfer the flu to their families and friends. It's important to pass the message on: you need to stem the flu immediately, as soon as you experience a symptom."
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Tanya Marquette wrote:
All are very pleased and so is the doctor in charge of the Lupus sufferer.
There is also this which may be of interest.
Sambucol
Israel's Elderberry Remedy Sambucol is Solution to U.S. Flu Vaccine >Shortage.
http://www.allbusiness.com/middle-east/ ... 750-1.html
By Israel21c.org
Americans are nervously bracing for the expected flu vaccine shortage as health experts predict people will begin feeling the effects of the flu by this month. But as the hundreds of thousands of Americans who use Israel's elderberry extract Sambucol will tell you,
vaccines aren't the only answer to alleviating the flu's debilitating symptoms.
Nicknamed 'nature's flu fighter', Sambucol - which is produced by Jerusalem-based company Razei Bar - has been clinically proven to eliminate flu symptoms within one to two days. A standardized extract, the 100% natural Sambucol contains a potent antiviral compound, AntiVirin as well as a high amount of three flavonoids, naturally occurring plant antioxidants.
Developed by prominent Israeli virologist Dr. Madeleine Mumcuoglu, Sambucol is derived from the black elder tree, Sambucus nigra L. Beginning in the 1970s, Mumcuoglu began research that led to her discovery of the key active ingredient in elderberry.
"I became interested in the natural healing elements of elderberry when I did my PhD on it in Switzerland," Mumcuoglu told ISRAEL21c. "I isolated the active substances from the elderberry and tested them against the flu virus, and found them to be effective. After finishing my studies, I came back to Israel and continued to work on research for about 10 years at the Hadassah Medical Center in Jerusalem."
According to Mumcuoglu, the black elderberry has been known since the 5th century BCE and was mentioned in the writings of Hippocrates, Dioscurides and Plinius. It can be found in every pharmacopoeia. Elderberry wine was traditionally used for influenza and the ill effects of the chills, and the juice of the black elderberry has historically been an invaluable remedy.
After assessing its effectiveness against the flu during her research, which was conducted in collaboration with the Department of Virology, Hebrew University School of Medicine, Mumcuoglu decided to commercialize an elderberry supplement she named Sambucol, and founded Razei Bar in 1992. Mumcuoglu was able to test her products on patients during a flu epidemic in southern Israel in the winter of 1992-93.
The results were very encouraging. Within 24 hours, 20% of those patients taking Sambucol had dramatic improvements in symptoms like fever, muscle aches and pains and coughing. By the second day, 73% had shown improvement, and by Day Three, 90%. In the untreated group, only 16% felt better after two days. The majority of that group began feeling better only after a week.
Another double-blind placebo-controlled clinical study was conducted using Sambucol during an outbreak of influenza B Panama. A significant alleviation of symptoms, including fever, was seen in 93.3% of the cases in the Sambucol treated group within 2 days. A complete cure was achieved within 2 to 3 days in nearly 90% of the Sambucol treated group compared to at least 6 days in the placebo group.
Most recently, in a randomized, double blind, placebo-controlled study conducted in Norway, Sambucol was shown to significantly reduce the duration of the flu by approximately four days. The use of rescue medication (pain relievers , etc.) was significantly less in the group receiving Sambucol than in the placebo group.
The study concluded that Sambucol stimulates the healthy immune system by increasing production of inflammatory cytokines. Cytokine production was measured using monocytes, derived from the blood of 12 healthy volunteers, which were incubated with four different Sambucol products: Sambucol Black Elderberry Extract, Sambucol Black Elderberry Syrup, Sambucol Immune System, and Sambucol for Kids.
Mumcuoglo will not divulge the exact makeup of Sambucol and what makes it different from other elderberry extracts, but stressed that Sambucol stands alone among elderberry extracts.
"I was the first to introduce the elderberry in the U.S., and now there are about 70 copycats. But to our credit, we still have about 80% of the market. We have a very special recipe. It's very easy to destroy the active element, which is why most of those other products aren't effective," she said. Even though the product is produced and manufactured in Israel, the elderberries are imported from Europe, as the Middle East does not offer the proper climate for growing them.
Sambucol costs $12 for 30 lozenges, and can be found in just about any health food store in the U.S. It's distributed by Nature's Way Products. Sambucol is also sold in Canada, the United Kingdom, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, Israel, South Korea, Singapore and New Zealand.
"I think that Sambucol has a great role to play - it really can save lives. To my knowledge, it's the only product that can cut the duration of the flu in half, before complications have a chance to develop. At least 30,000 deaths are reported due to flu complications every year in the US.," Mumcuoglo said.
"I'm very concerned about the situation in the US. Half the population that has been receiving the vaccine in the past will not get it this year. Many of them will get sick, and transfer the flu to their families and friends. It's important to pass the message on: you need to stem the flu immediately, as soon as you experience a symptom."
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Tanya Marquette wrote:
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tg.partington
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
this is everywhere in the English countryside at the moment. have been making jam and cordial (with blackberries) but will now concentrate on the vodka version!
Theresa
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Theresa
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Robin Coventry
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
Ok now I would like to know why Sambucol is recommended for colds and flus. I have been told that buckwheat honey is very good. Also Echinacea and goldenseal. Can someone explain the discrepancies in the report below and what is considered items to use.
Robin
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ruby
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:32 AM
To: Homeopathystudy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
Importance: High
If a severe flu strikes in which people with strong immune systems are succumbing such as happened in 1918 or with SARS or H5N1 avian flu, avoid the following herbs and foods:
*Elderberry juice
*Chlorella and spirulina
*Honey
*Chocolate
*Echinacea
*Kimchi
All of the above increase production of the cytokines NTF-a or IL-6 or both.
For any respiratory illness, also avoid dairy products and bananas, because they increase mucous production.
The following herbs, vitamins and foods are helpful against respiratory illnesses:
Garlic: crush and eat raw as a great anti-viral (for the last flu, I cut a clove of garlic in half and stuck the cut ends into my nose. A face mask is just the ticket for holding them in place! This worked wonders.)
Vitamin C: 1000 mg/hr for the first 6 hours, then 1000 mg three times a day. Blocks neuraminidase (by which viruses replicate) and inhibits TNF-a and IL-6 production.
Green tea: works as well as Tamiflu to inhibit neuraminidase. Also inhibits TNF-a production.
St. Johns Wort: Great anti-viral effects. Reduces IL-6. Used effectively in Vietnam against H5N1 avian flu.
Vitamin E: boosts immunity. Especially effective with Vitamin C, good for the elderly.
Apples: anti-viral. The peel is the best. The flesh may be too sugary for some.
Resveratrol: proven anti-viral. Inhibits neuraminidase. Found in red wine, peanuts, mulberries, raisins and red grapes.
Skullcap: Anti-viral. May inhibit neuraminidase. Drink as herb tea.
Cranberry juice: possible anti-viral.
Cats claw: reduces TNF-a production. Boosts immunity. Not good for children or pregnant women.
Curcumin: yellow substance in tumeric. Reduces TNF-a. Research indicates possibly effective in preventing cytokine storms. Must be taken together with black pepper or it will be metabolized in the intestine and liver. Should be avoided by pregant or nursing women. Dosage of 400~5,000 mg/day.
Astragalus root: boosts immunity.
Tea tree oil steam inhalation: possibly reduces TNF-a. Hot water in bowl with 2 drops tea tree oil, towel over head.
Source: Australian biologist Stephen Jones http://www.the-health-gazette-blog/alte ... antivirals
Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
Jennifer Ruby
Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
http://www.rubysemporium.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
http://www.lazrpulsr.com
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Robin
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ruby
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:32 AM
To: Homeopathystudy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
Importance: High
If a severe flu strikes in which people with strong immune systems are succumbing such as happened in 1918 or with SARS or H5N1 avian flu, avoid the following herbs and foods:
*Elderberry juice
*Chlorella and spirulina
*Honey
*Chocolate
*Echinacea
*Kimchi
All of the above increase production of the cytokines NTF-a or IL-6 or both.
For any respiratory illness, also avoid dairy products and bananas, because they increase mucous production.
The following herbs, vitamins and foods are helpful against respiratory illnesses:
Garlic: crush and eat raw as a great anti-viral (for the last flu, I cut a clove of garlic in half and stuck the cut ends into my nose. A face mask is just the ticket for holding them in place! This worked wonders.)
Vitamin C: 1000 mg/hr for the first 6 hours, then 1000 mg three times a day. Blocks neuraminidase (by which viruses replicate) and inhibits TNF-a and IL-6 production.
Green tea: works as well as Tamiflu to inhibit neuraminidase. Also inhibits TNF-a production.
St. Johns Wort: Great anti-viral effects. Reduces IL-6. Used effectively in Vietnam against H5N1 avian flu.
Vitamin E: boosts immunity. Especially effective with Vitamin C, good for the elderly.
Apples: anti-viral. The peel is the best. The flesh may be too sugary for some.
Resveratrol: proven anti-viral. Inhibits neuraminidase. Found in red wine, peanuts, mulberries, raisins and red grapes.
Skullcap: Anti-viral. May inhibit neuraminidase. Drink as herb tea.
Cranberry juice: possible anti-viral.
Cats claw: reduces TNF-a production. Boosts immunity. Not good for children or pregnant women.
Curcumin: yellow substance in tumeric. Reduces TNF-a. Research indicates possibly effective in preventing cytokine storms. Must be taken together with black pepper or it will be metabolized in the intestine and liver. Should be avoided by pregant or nursing women. Dosage of 400~5,000 mg/day.
Astragalus root: boosts immunity.
Tea tree oil steam inhalation: possibly reduces TNF-a. Hot water in bowl with 2 drops tea tree oil, towel over head.
Source: Australian biologist Stephen Jones http://www.the-health-gazette-blog/alte ... antivirals
Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
Jennifer Ruby
Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
http://www.rubysemporium.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
http://www.lazrpulsr.com
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
admittedly talking off the top, i feel there is something missing in
the belief that stronger immune systems succumb faster and deeper.
so many variables. what is considered healthy by the allopathic
definition may be highly suspect to some of us. for example, a young
male who seems healthy because of absence of notable symptoms
may be horribly compromised due to poor diet, smoking, coffee,
alcohol, drugs, etc. for example, i had a young man do some work
for me this summer. seemed healthy and strong. has significant
heart effects from lyme not dx allopathically. he reports arrhythmia.
the meds would probably think him healthy!
reading to many posts so can't recall who sent one out that noted
an imbalance between th-1 and th-2 due to possible deficiency of
zinc. so here again, we see a possible nutritional link.
tanya
the belief that stronger immune systems succumb faster and deeper.
so many variables. what is considered healthy by the allopathic
definition may be highly suspect to some of us. for example, a young
male who seems healthy because of absence of notable symptoms
may be horribly compromised due to poor diet, smoking, coffee,
alcohol, drugs, etc. for example, i had a young man do some work
for me this summer. seemed healthy and strong. has significant
heart effects from lyme not dx allopathically. he reports arrhythmia.
the meds would probably think him healthy!
reading to many posts so can't recall who sent one out that noted
an imbalance between th-1 and th-2 due to possible deficiency of
zinc. so here again, we see a possible nutritional link.
tanya
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lightspirals
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
A bit confusing in this thread....here is says to 'avoid' elderberry, honey, etc. yet in other posts promotes taking them. Can anyone clarify?
Thank you,
Liz
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Thank you,
Liz
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Cytokine Storm Countermeasures - Influenza Concerns
Hi Liz,
Note that it says, "If a severe flu strikes in which people with strong immune systems are succumbing such as happened in 1918 or with SARS or H5N1 avian flu..." Most of the time they are helpful.
Shannon
Note that it says, "If a severe flu strikes in which people with strong immune systems are succumbing such as happened in 1918 or with SARS or H5N1 avian flu..." Most of the time they are helpful.
Shannon