The boy who likes jails
The boy who likes jails
Dear All,
I have been seeing this 12 yr old boy for about 8 years on and off and never felt I have found his remedy. Homeopaths such as Louis Klein and mine don't use reps lie I tend to but try to match a theme to a remedy so I would be interested to know if any of you can think of a remedy based on the theme of protection, jails, trapped etc.
My notes from yesterday state:-
The jail theme is still there and now he is interested in guns and playing at tying up. He said he wants to do the tying up but would only be tied up if the ropes were loose. He still makes Lego jails and police jails but is now also into weapons. When he was young and used to make fences to put his toy animals in he used to tell me it was to stop the animals escaping . Now he tells me the interest in weapons - he makes weapons out of bits of wood and stuff and keeps them under his bed- is because he likes having power. "I want to be the king of the world so I make the rules.
- I'm not keen on church so people wouldn't have to go
- Children should have £50 a week pocket money (mum says he saves all his )
- I would charge taxes.
Dreams - emotional and violent - "someone close to me passed away but he was murdered in a violent way."
From 2001 I wrote :-
He has a huge imagination. He has a thing about prisons, dungeons etc. and all his play is around this. This is what he draws as well. He makes cages and put animals inside. He draws happy and sad people behind bars. Everything is enclosed. I can't a rubric for this.
2004:-
He is still putting things into cages when he plays.
Also 2004:-
He is still playing animals in cages and tying up things with pieces of string.
"When I go to the Safari Park the lions are free. In cages they can't get run over or hunted. If they are free people could get trampled by elephants or eaten by lions. Baby animals would get scared in cages so I would cover them with a coat and feed them with a bottle. ."
I asked how his animals that he plays with feel in the cages. "Fine as they are made from wax." That time he drew me an animal in a cage made of bars.
There have been a lot of fears in the past and sexuality. He used to be very effeminate looking but not so much now. He can see red with uncontrolled violence after which there is often remorse. There is avarice and he doesn't spend money but saves it and tells me that he may need it when he is older. He is very intelligent at school and gets bullied and sometimes lashes out.
Remedies he has done well on include Verat Alb, Med and Calc Phos. I now feel he is a mineral because of the structure in his play and the fact that he feels he has to keep to the rules that there are in school.
This time he came really for a hay fever issue which seemed to be Allium c. and because he is scared to go to school because he feels threatened as his things keep getting vandalised and there is name calling to which he is very sensitive.
I thought this may be a case we could learn from if I can ever find the remedy for him
All the best
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
I have been seeing this 12 yr old boy for about 8 years on and off and never felt I have found his remedy. Homeopaths such as Louis Klein and mine don't use reps lie I tend to but try to match a theme to a remedy so I would be interested to know if any of you can think of a remedy based on the theme of protection, jails, trapped etc.
My notes from yesterday state:-
The jail theme is still there and now he is interested in guns and playing at tying up. He said he wants to do the tying up but would only be tied up if the ropes were loose. He still makes Lego jails and police jails but is now also into weapons. When he was young and used to make fences to put his toy animals in he used to tell me it was to stop the animals escaping . Now he tells me the interest in weapons - he makes weapons out of bits of wood and stuff and keeps them under his bed- is because he likes having power. "I want to be the king of the world so I make the rules.
- I'm not keen on church so people wouldn't have to go
- Children should have £50 a week pocket money (mum says he saves all his )
- I would charge taxes.
Dreams - emotional and violent - "someone close to me passed away but he was murdered in a violent way."
From 2001 I wrote :-
He has a huge imagination. He has a thing about prisons, dungeons etc. and all his play is around this. This is what he draws as well. He makes cages and put animals inside. He draws happy and sad people behind bars. Everything is enclosed. I can't a rubric for this.
2004:-
He is still putting things into cages when he plays.
Also 2004:-
He is still playing animals in cages and tying up things with pieces of string.
"When I go to the Safari Park the lions are free. In cages they can't get run over or hunted. If they are free people could get trampled by elephants or eaten by lions. Baby animals would get scared in cages so I would cover them with a coat and feed them with a bottle. ."
I asked how his animals that he plays with feel in the cages. "Fine as they are made from wax." That time he drew me an animal in a cage made of bars.
There have been a lot of fears in the past and sexuality. He used to be very effeminate looking but not so much now. He can see red with uncontrolled violence after which there is often remorse. There is avarice and he doesn't spend money but saves it and tells me that he may need it when he is older. He is very intelligent at school and gets bullied and sometimes lashes out.
Remedies he has done well on include Verat Alb, Med and Calc Phos. I now feel he is a mineral because of the structure in his play and the fact that he feels he has to keep to the rules that there are in school.
This time he came really for a hay fever issue which seemed to be Allium c. and because he is scared to go to school because he feels threatened as his things keep getting vandalised and there is name calling to which he is very sensitive.
I thought this may be a case we could learn from if I can ever find the remedy for him
All the best
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Re: The boy who likes jails
I have found this rubric in the past
Mirilli's Themes; imprisoned: (85) allox, amet, anac, arist-cl, arn, ars, bamb-a, bani-c, bapt, bell, blatta, bov, CACT, caj, calx-b, cand-a, cann-i, caras, cere-b, cerv, CIMIC, clad-r, clem, coca, coc-c, com, corv-c, crot-c, cupr, CUPR-ACET, cygn-c, cygn-c-b, cypra-e, dros, elaps, emer, falco-p, germ, haliae-lc, harp, herin, hippo-k, hura, HYOS, ilx-p, kali-br, kola, lac-as, LAC-EQ, lac-leo, latex, leon, lsd, mag-c, maia-l, mangi, meli, methyl-p-h, nat-m, nat-p, nelu, onc-t, ORIG, ozone, ped, plan, plb, POSIT, pter-a, rhus-g, rhus-t, ruta, salx-f, sars, sec, spect, succ, syph, tab, taosc, tax-br, telo-s, tung, ust, zinc,
and this:-
Mind; power, love of: (17) adam, aloe, ang, ars, bute-j., gins, granit-m, ignis, kali-i, lach, LYC, merc, nelu, nux-v, succ, sulph, uran,
Has anyone got any modern mind Sx of Succ (Amber) . There is a Links article I was reading which was interesting.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Mirilli's Themes; imprisoned: (85) allox, amet, anac, arist-cl, arn, ars, bamb-a, bani-c, bapt, bell, blatta, bov, CACT, caj, calx-b, cand-a, cann-i, caras, cere-b, cerv, CIMIC, clad-r, clem, coca, coc-c, com, corv-c, crot-c, cupr, CUPR-ACET, cygn-c, cygn-c-b, cypra-e, dros, elaps, emer, falco-p, germ, haliae-lc, harp, herin, hippo-k, hura, HYOS, ilx-p, kali-br, kola, lac-as, LAC-EQ, lac-leo, latex, leon, lsd, mag-c, maia-l, mangi, meli, methyl-p-h, nat-m, nat-p, nelu, onc-t, ORIG, ozone, ped, plan, plb, POSIT, pter-a, rhus-g, rhus-t, ruta, salx-f, sars, sec, spect, succ, syph, tab, taosc, tax-br, telo-s, tung, ust, zinc,
and this:-
Mind; power, love of: (17) adam, aloe, ang, ars, bute-j., gins, granit-m, ignis, kali-i, lach, LYC, merc, nelu, nux-v, succ, sulph, uran,
Has anyone got any modern mind Sx of Succ (Amber) . There is a Links article I was reading which was interesting.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Re: The boy who likes jails
But he is not the imprisoned one (or is he?) but the one who wants to have the power of kings to imprison others - is this revenge, is it a need to dominate (as you have suggested here, a love of power - maybe look at domineering as well to add a few more rx).
The fears in Succ are about being enclosed, confined but maybe jails but jails have a thing about guilt attached? Who is he blaming I wonder.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
The fears in Succ are about being enclosed, confined but maybe jails but jails have a thing about guilt attached? Who is he blaming I wonder.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Re: The boy who likes jails
Could easily be blaming his father who ran off with another woman but that was after the age of 3 when he started this behaviour so the only person could be his mother!!
From what he said to me yesterday it must be a love of power although when he was younger he reckoned it was to protect the toy animals from escaping and getting hurt.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
From what he said to me yesterday it must be a love of power although when he was younger he reckoned it was to protect the toy animals from escaping and getting hurt.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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Jean Doherty
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Re: The boy who likes jails
Fascinating. Have to work on it but is some of the flavour of scorpion there? Jean
Re: The boy who likes jails
Ooh - thanks for that - will look it up!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Re: The boy who likes jails
Was he protecting the animals -- or himself. It seems to me this could be about fear rationalized to look like a love of power. I guess the clue would be in how he relates to real animals.
On a totally different tack, your post unfortunately reminded me of a bad movie that came out years ago: Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer as were-wolves. The movie starts out with lots of striped clothing and striped shadows, suggesting the "bars" of civilization that imprison these as-yet normal people. When they become were-wolves, all that disappears, as they are now free to realize their creative (and destructive) potential. Or some such nonsense.
So, how does this kid feel about were-wolves?
Peace,
Dale
On a totally different tack, your post unfortunately reminded me of a bad movie that came out years ago: Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer as were-wolves. The movie starts out with lots of striped clothing and striped shadows, suggesting the "bars" of civilization that imprison these as-yet normal people. When they become were-wolves, all that disappears, as they are now free to realize their creative (and destructive) potential. Or some such nonsense.
So, how does this kid feel about were-wolves?
Peace,
Dale
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: The boy who likes jails
this is very interesting symptomatology.
it can be love of power. but it can also be its
opposite--the impotence he feels at not being
able to control his environment. the jail can
be a safety thing or it could be a way of self
discipline or self-punishment.
of course you know the conversation with him and his
mother and we really do not. so you need to evaluate
that experience and ask the probing questions.
can you get him to describe his sensations, emotions,
energy around this? can you get him to draw a picture
of his feelings, etc? sometimes those techniques will
provide more information than intellectual questions.
tanya
it can be love of power. but it can also be its
opposite--the impotence he feels at not being
able to control his environment. the jail can
be a safety thing or it could be a way of self
discipline or self-punishment.
of course you know the conversation with him and his
mother and we really do not. so you need to evaluate
that experience and ask the probing questions.
can you get him to describe his sensations, emotions,
energy around this? can you get him to draw a picture
of his feelings, etc? sometimes those techniques will
provide more information than intellectual questions.
tanya
Re: The boy who likes jails
There are the rubrics 'fear of being hurt' and 'fear of hurting others' - seems he could be somewhere between these two places, going by what he said rather than by interpreting. Interesting.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
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Vera Resnick
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Re: The boy who likes jails
Sorry to be "banal", but could there also be an influence from
particular TV shows or books that he likes?
Vera
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Vera Resnick RCHom
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particular TV shows or books that he likes?
Vera
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Vera Resnick RCHom
Classical Homeopath
e-mail: vera.homeopath@gmail.com

