Hahnemannand Kent: remedy must fit the patient

[Joy Lucas]

I gave you the reference, stanza to begin with and there are others but if you want me to print it out for you I think that a waste of time as you can read it for yourself. Perhaps you cannot be bothered, if so why ask, i is there.

Joy

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[Luise Kunkle]

It is generally said that the concept of "the remedy must fit the
patient not the disease" derives from Kent, not Hahnemann.

On reading the Organon and the CD I did not come across anything that
made me question this. But I did not look for it, specifically and I
have myself done no specific research on this issue, just accepted
what I read or heard along the line mentioned above in the 1st
paragraph.

If that surmise is wrong I should be interested to know where
Hahnemann has said anything to the effect. This is why I asked for
references.

Telling me to read the Organon or read it starting from aphor 102 is
not giving reference. Not in the sense the word is used in scientific
or scholarly publications or discussions.

The reason for the scientists and scholars to insist on rigorous
identification of the sources - i. e. publication,, edition, page - is
obvious: you cannot expect readers who might want a statement to be
backed up to read pages up pages in order to find out whether the
author is correct in what s/he asserts.

Along the same line I am certainly not going to read a 100 or so pages
each in several editions of the Organon to find something that
probably is not there. Who would?

As far as Kent is concerned: while he definitely said something like
it, it is very well possible that he was misinterpreted by his
followers.

This has been discussed for especially the reason that in the
"100 Clinical Cases" he published it is hard to see where he followed
this instruction himself.

There again, it might be interesting if someone would reference to the
cases where he did. Or it would be interesting, generally to discuss
those cases.

Regards

Luise

--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Joy, others,
No, I am not going to read a hundred + pages starting at § 102, but I
did read aphor 102

Here it is:

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§ 102

In the course of writing down the symptoms of several cases of this
kind the sketch of the *disease picture* becomes ever more and more
complete, not more spun out and verbose, but more significant (more
characteristic), and including more of the peculiarities *of this
collective disease*; on the one hand, the general symptoms (e.g., loss
of appetite, sleeplessness, etc.) become precisely defined as to their
peculiarities; and on the other, the more marked and special symptoms
which are peculiar to but *few diseases* and of rarer occurrence, at
least in the same combination, become prominent and constitute what is
characteristic of *this malady*.1 All those *affected with the
disease* prevailing at a given time have certainly contracted it from
one and the same source and hence are *suffering from the same
disease*; but the whole extent of such an epidemic *disease and the
totality of its symptoms* (the knowledge whereof, which is essential
for enabling us to choose the most suitable homoeopathic remedy for
this array of symptoms, is obtained by a complete survey of *the
morbid picture*) cannot be learned from one single patient, but is
only to be perfectly deduced (abstracted) and ascertained from the
sufferings of several patients of different constitutions.

1 The physician who has already, in the first cases, been able to
choose a remedy approximating to the homoeopathic specific, will, from
the subsequence cases, be enabled either to verify the suitableness of
the medicine chosen, or to discover a more appropriate, the most
appropriate homoeopathic remedy.

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So, where in aphor 102 does H. say that the remedy has to be similar
to the patient and not to the disease/illness/malay of the patient?

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[Joy Lucas]

You've now changed the question though as what you ask now is different from the original, so do you want to take your pick and ask again. Take a deep breath and clear your mind, concentrate and then we'll know what you are asking and can answer. Below is the original.
Hi Magda,
In which aphor. did he do that?

NOT in aphor 153!

If there is one where he does I have so far overlooked it ynd would be
glad if you could tell me which it is.
Joy

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[Irene de Villiers]

I am "quoted" here but those are not my words - wrong attribution in
this case.
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Joy Lucas]

We know that you've said it before but I wanted to show the whole bit and the reply was in part to you anyway - some keep asking for 'where did I say that' etc.

Joy

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[Irene de Villiers]

Joy no part of the quoted email was mine, nor was it in wording I
would use..
If you wish to put my name on anything as a quote it then needs to be
a quote from me.
.........Irene