Irene,
I will be happy to copy my handwritten notes from seminars in the 80s. and
email them to you. Will also gladly copy the "study book" being use
currently. As to who this person is, I will not mention names, but you know
perfectly well who I am speaking of.
Just send me your snail address.
Magda Aguila
Aquiline LLC
Animal Nutrition and
Homeopathic Consultations
www.aquilinedanes.com
Same disease in different species and related things...Aph 118 etc
Re: Same disease in different species and related things...Aph 118 etc
We've actually had it implied a lot from you irene every time you suggest a disease specific potentised substance and unproven as well for cats. You imply you have to resort to these substances all the time for cure instead of using known and proven substances used on humans. And if there is no cross over with regard to species then there is no reason why you shouldn't prove these substances on humans (you said no to provings on animals).
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Re: Same disease in different species and related things...Aph 118 etc
From: "Irene de Villiers"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Same disease in different species and related
things...Aph 118 etc
I have not heard the idea before, where did you hear it "for many
##### BTW, Irene, I sent a case in that very same email relating the idea
that Nat Mur is not a dog remedy.
And as I said, I will be happy to mail you the evidence. I don't think hand
written notes that are 20 years old will scan clearly.
Meanwhile, I am still waiting for you to send us the proving and the "five
decades" of cases regarding the cat virus remedy. Would you kindly send
that!
Magda
To:
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Same disease in different species and related
things...Aph 118 etc
I have not heard the idea before, where did you hear it "for many
##### BTW, Irene, I sent a case in that very same email relating the idea
that Nat Mur is not a dog remedy.
And as I said, I will be happy to mail you the evidence. I don't think hand
written notes that are 20 years old will scan clearly.
Meanwhile, I am still waiting for you to send us the proving and the "five
decades" of cases regarding the cat virus remedy. Would you kindly send
that!
Magda
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Same disease in different species and related things...Aph 118 etc
Joy, let's try to clarify your misconception on this:
The "it" you claim is implied refers to Magda not me. It is she who
says there is a tendency to want different remedies for animals than
for people. I have hotly argued AGAINST that and always will. So it
is only Magda who *claims* anyone at all wants that. It is, as I said
before, easy to disprove.
Nor would I ever want a separate animal repertory. I teach my
students why not too.
Now to the next misunderstanding you have:
* I have yet to suggest a disease-specific unproved substance.
* They are all proved.
* And they are used primarily for prophylaxis.
* I have stated - several times - that the SAME remedy is used for
prophylaxis for ALL species.
(I used Bordetella bronchiseptica as an example.)
I shall not answer your misconceptions on this again.
Please have the courtesy to read my emails carefully before further
comment.
Questions (not assumptions as here) are welcome.
I have not only failed to imply any such thing, (Magda did) but I
took the troule to write a cople extra emails to make it clear I do
the opposite or lives will be lost.
NOWHERE did I suggest a different approach "instead" of simillimum in
Bord.b as you claim.
Please read my emails better. I think that is common courtesy before
claiming the opposite of what I did say.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
The "it" you claim is implied refers to Magda not me. It is she who
says there is a tendency to want different remedies for animals than
for people. I have hotly argued AGAINST that and always will. So it
is only Magda who *claims* anyone at all wants that. It is, as I said
before, easy to disprove.
Nor would I ever want a separate animal repertory. I teach my
students why not too.
Now to the next misunderstanding you have:
* I have yet to suggest a disease-specific unproved substance.
* They are all proved.
* And they are used primarily for prophylaxis.
* I have stated - several times - that the SAME remedy is used for
prophylaxis for ALL species.
(I used Bordetella bronchiseptica as an example.)
I shall not answer your misconceptions on this again.
Please have the courtesy to read my emails carefully before further
comment.
Questions (not assumptions as here) are welcome.
I have not only failed to imply any such thing, (Magda did) but I
took the troule to write a cople extra emails to make it clear I do
the opposite or lives will be lost.
NOWHERE did I suggest a different approach "instead" of simillimum in
Bord.b as you claim.
Please read my emails better. I think that is common courtesy before
claiming the opposite of what I did say.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Re: Same disease in different species and related things...Aph 118 etc
Irene,
What I have said is that Allopathic Vets going thru the certification
process are being told that there are remedies that do not apply to animals.
I clearly stated both Nat Mur and Belladona as examples. This is NOT
something I say. It is what is BEING TAUGHT to Allopathic Vets going thru
the SIXTEEN DAY CERTIFICATION PROGRAM for Homeopathic vets!.
And again, you continue to claim that remedies made from vaccines have been
proven, but you are YET to provide with the evidence of such statements.
And stop making allegations about things I have written to suit your hide
and seek games! You HAVE implied that you use these remedies regularly.
This is done to such a degree that I have asked you twice today to tell us
what percentage of your practice is devoted to the use of PROVEN remedies
that appear in our MMs, but again, just like the "provings" of the remedies
from vaccines as well as the 5+ decades of experience with the cat flu
vaccines remedy, you have failed to answer that question or provide any
evidence of the things you claim these vaccine remedies are doing.
I understand that the best defense is a good offense, but stop diverting the
subject matter! GIVE US THE PROOF of all the statements you so freely make!
Magda Aguila
Aquiline LLC
Animal Nutrition and
Homeopathic Consultations
www.aquilinedanes.com
What I have said is that Allopathic Vets going thru the certification
process are being told that there are remedies that do not apply to animals.
I clearly stated both Nat Mur and Belladona as examples. This is NOT
something I say. It is what is BEING TAUGHT to Allopathic Vets going thru
the SIXTEEN DAY CERTIFICATION PROGRAM for Homeopathic vets!.
And again, you continue to claim that remedies made from vaccines have been
proven, but you are YET to provide with the evidence of such statements.
And stop making allegations about things I have written to suit your hide
and seek games! You HAVE implied that you use these remedies regularly.
This is done to such a degree that I have asked you twice today to tell us
what percentage of your practice is devoted to the use of PROVEN remedies
that appear in our MMs, but again, just like the "provings" of the remedies
from vaccines as well as the 5+ decades of experience with the cat flu
vaccines remedy, you have failed to answer that question or provide any
evidence of the things you claim these vaccine remedies are doing.
I understand that the best defense is a good offense, but stop diverting the
subject matter! GIVE US THE PROOF of all the statements you so freely make!
Magda Aguila
Aquiline LLC
Animal Nutrition and
Homeopathic Consultations
www.aquilinedanes.com
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Same disease in different species and related things...Aph 118 etc
"Homeopathic vets" are not homeopaths. They are vets. A vet can not
be homepathic, as that implies the vet is somehow part of
implementing the law of similars:-)
It is a disgrace that the public is duped into looking for homeopathy
expertise in such folk, even if they are well-meaning (as many are).
Being well-meant and being a homeopath are not the same thing.
I suggest folks look for a D.Vet Hom degree (or D.I. Hom ) as a
minimum requirement.
The "certification" of which you speak holds no water. It was
invented by the same two vets (with a complete lack of formal
homeopathy credentials by their own admission on their websites) who
run this supposed training system for other vets.
Of course they will "certify" themselves. (Even my cats can achieve
that much and certify each other, and they may well understand
homeopathy better for all I know.)
You may have to wait till I publish one day, I do not plan to do
that here.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
be homepathic, as that implies the vet is somehow part of
implementing the law of similars:-)
It is a disgrace that the public is duped into looking for homeopathy
expertise in such folk, even if they are well-meaning (as many are).
Being well-meant and being a homeopath are not the same thing.
I suggest folks look for a D.Vet Hom degree (or D.I. Hom ) as a
minimum requirement.
The "certification" of which you speak holds no water. It was
invented by the same two vets (with a complete lack of formal
homeopathy credentials by their own admission on their websites) who
run this supposed training system for other vets.
Of course they will "certify" themselves. (Even my cats can achieve
that much and certify each other, and they may well understand
homeopathy better for all I know.)
You may have to wait till I publish one day, I do not plan to do
that here.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Re: Same disease in different species and related things...Aph 118 etc
Will you please stop snipping posts as you are accusing others of doing so and it is not Magda at all but you who claim disease specific rx for animals. Have you used Bord B on humans out of interest?
Still waiting on the proving data which would also be common courtesy seeing as many have been asking for it for quite some time.
All you spend time doing is saying we are making misconceptions or we are deluded or being rude or whatever and refuse to answer due to that which is not pulling the wool over many eyes, I cannot see the brick wall you are building in your mind - just give the data please, it is a simple request.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Still waiting on the proving data which would also be common courtesy seeing as many have been asking for it for quite some time.
All you spend time doing is saying we are making misconceptions or we are deluded or being rude or whatever and refuse to answer due to that which is not pulling the wool over many eyes, I cannot see the brick wall you are building in your mind - just give the data please, it is a simple request.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/