Certification - was New Approaches

[Irene de Villiers]

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Been done - often - there are deaf ears involved at CHC.
Who needs that for a certification body?
They do not even acknowledge people who contact them much less give
lip service in response.
They are good at asking for money and failing to say what happens to
it though.....
and not just a one-off fee for a one-off job - annual fees (for a one-
off job of running a poor test).

Been there, done that.
I'll contact any group with a real objective to test homeopathy
skills, and an open policy of financial reporting and with a system
of continuous upgrade in place for any system they use. Closed doors/
ears with open wallets are not that!

We also need a certification system that tests homeopathy skill of
ALL valid practitioners, not just a biased selection of them based on
invalid criteria.
They need to take serious practitioners and teachers of homeopathy
seriously.
CHC does none of that.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Sue Boyle]

Irene,

I have had no problem getting in touch with CHC at any time, possibly a second phone might have been needed ? Sometimes things fall through the cracks and a second request is needed, people can get busy and not mean to ignore and not answer.

Sue

[Irene de Villiers]

I have sent a request at least annually for many years and been
completely ignored.

If they cared they'd be here picking up ideas and writing to thank
people for sending them after implementing them
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Leilanae]

I've received timely, informative and helpful responses by email too.

Leilanae
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[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Rosemary,

as usual very interesting.
But would not the certification organisation have to be accredited by
the state fist in order to mean anything?

I mean, just as anyone can call himself a homeopath, any group of
people can set up a "certification board". set standards of their own
liking and start certifying - schools and individuals.

So standards would have to be agreed on by ALL those who consider
themselves homeopaths, they would have to speak in one voice to
persuade the authorities to agree to those standards. If there is
strife, you cannot expect the authorities to know enough to determine
whether classcal homeopathy or Heilkunst or mixopathy or.. standards
are best - and you cannot expect Heilkunst or mixopathy to agree that
"classical" is best or the only way.

I do not see how you can overcome that hurdle.

The acupucture college I wet to for advaced traiig was in N.M. There
they had such a certification authority. They could certify schools
students had to have gone to for a certain number of credit hours,
then take a test; if you passed that test you got a license to
practice TCM in N.M.

There it suppose it had been relatively easy, because the person
responsible for the accriditation was a fully trained ad accredited
(in China) Chinese doctor. I suppose the authorities had trusted her
to know what was TCM and what was not:-)
Regards

Luise
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[John Harvey]

2009/7/4 Irene de Villiers >
Not sure what you mean here about the normal one: the first examiner's one?

And what is to prevent the first examiner from acting on his conflict of interest as the student's tutor (by giving the student the answers)?
What would be the fun in that?
John

(Hoping the formatting of this message turns out okay)
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[Irene de Villiers]

Hi John,
Your formatting came looking okay - your answer right column - but
confused the poor reply button no end,
so I'll try to re-arrange it here:
Yes.
It's a good question.

Total fraud is not always preventable, but the tutor's reputation
will soon be in shreds as the student gets in over their eyeballs in
the real world - court case and tutor fired etc would follow.

Various solutions .....

eg The exam paper can be sent sealed (questions decided centrally by
certifying body, not by tutor), and opened by an invigilator who also
photocopies the answer paper before submitting the original to the
tutor for grading.....
I expect a waterslide into a swimming pool to be at my feet:-)

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[John Harvey]

Thanks, Irene --

Some people's posts end up in two columns in my window (the second column being a Yahoo footnote), and dealing with that isn't as straightforward as it should be.
Well... the conflict of interest should be dealt with through prevention rather than reliance upon exposure of the fraud through failure in practice. But...
That should work.
Of course, it would be simpler simply not to have the tutor involved as an examiner. Why not just have the "second" examiner be the only examiner, with provision for appeal in order to overcome any injustices?

Cheers --

John

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"Nothing is so fatal to the progress of the human mind as to suppose that our views of science are ultimate; that there are no mysteries in nature; that our triumphs are complete; and that there are no new worlds to conquer."

— Sir Humphry Davy, in "An Account of some Galvanic Combinations", Philosophical Transactions 91 (1801), pp. 397–402 (as quoted by David Knight, Humphry Davy: Science and Power, Cambridge, 1998, p. 87)