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sacredqi888
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Eczema in a 4 year old girl

Post by sacredqi888 »

I have a four year old patient with skin rashes since the first 24 hours of her life. Cleared for a few weeks and then pretty constant since 3 months old.
Now covers the whole body. In addition she also has herpes worse on her face.

both are red, itchy, some vesicles with discharge others dry. All are better at the seashore. Worse at night. She scratches until she bleeds during sleep. When she can sleep.

She lives in Florida and it is worse from fall to summer. In the summertime she goes to Macedonia and it is better. They come back in August and by October the rashes start again.

No changes in the diet or lifestyle whuile in Macedonia, but they are eliminating dairy and gluten to see if there is a causal relationship.

I saw her one time 3 weeks ago and I have another chance on Friday before they go to Macedfonia for the summertime.

I rx Med LM01 and she has had an aggravation with herpes breaking out on the face. Almost the worst she has ever had. Also where it was patchy 3 weeks ago now the eczema once again covers the whole body.

If anyone would like to see pictures I can email them privately.

My question: I am sure of my remedy but mom is scared and desires to use something topical which I am carefully advising her not to do. She has been suppressed with 1 round of steroids and many rounds of antibiotics and other suppressive treatments.

I desired to suggest aveeno baths but they are on the eliminating diet would that cause a problem? I felt it would.
2. would olive or coconut or grapeseed oil with a little tea tree oil be suppressive?
3. would the 7 cream that Dana sells
http://www.homeopathic.com/store/product=2077 be suppressive?

What suggestions would anyone have to help soothe the mom and give the homeopathics a chance to work? Both the little girl and the family are miserable with her condition.

Thanks in advance,
Sunny


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Eczema in a 4 year old girl

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Sunny,

What dosage did they give her? The only HORRIBLE aggravation my son
ever had, was to his first doses of Med LM1--which turned out to be
simply because he needed a MUCH smaller and less frequent dose. He's
not generally oversensitive to remedies, not at all, but the
difference between cutting his dose to about 1/6 (I think we used 1 tsp
in 4 oz, then 1/2 tsp for a dose?) and repeating only every four days
(which was just before sxs would have begun to return), was the
difference between a wild ride that was about to kill me (scraping him
off the ceiling, so to speak!), versus nearly immediate improvement,
continuing steadily, with no aggravation *at all*.

(Re the 7 cream, I was very impressed by the literature, and to *me* it
sounds supportive rather than suppressive, but I have no experience
with it. But, a tidbit I recall from a long-ago Sheilagh Creasy
lecture is, she said that occasionally if the patient was *very* badly
affected, she would let them use cortisone cream only on the face, so
that the rest of the body was still available for discharging the
disease, and she found that to work well. I would think the 7 cream
would be much less of a problem, esp. if used as an "emergency" measure
only on the worst areas?)

Re your question about the oils, I would be worried that tea tree oil
*could*, both because it's very strong and apparently sometimes
antidotes remedies, but more because it is so strongly antibiotic,
anti-fungal etc. Maybe no problem, but that would concern me... But
topical oil, so long as food-grade, to me that seems supportive and
nourishing (she will absorb much of it thru her skin), and that I
wouldn't worry about suppressing with. Coconut might also be a
possibility?

I'm not experienced with eczema, so take these thoughts with a grain of
salt. :-)
Shannon


Rosemary Hyde
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Re: Eczema in a 4 year old girl

Post by Rosemary Hyde »

Dear Sunny,

Whether the external treatments you listed might be slightly suppressive or
not, the challenge in itchy skin rashes, which often get much worse with
homeopathic treatment early on, becoming unbearable, is to make it possible
for the patient to stick with the least suppressive treatment possible while
the remedies have a chance to work curatively.

In my experience, LMs often work too deeply at the start of treatment of
these cases, making the rash much worse. It works better many times to
start with something like a 6C, double or triple diluted, used very
cautiously, repeating only when the remedy effect starts to slow down. It's
a situation that requires a lot of caution and vigilance.

Rosemary
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Joy Lucas
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Re: Eczema in a 4 year old girl

Post by Joy Lucas »

Could you begin with telling us about your choice of the rx - apart from the obvious reason of sx similarity - can you say which sx of Med were presenting so we could have a better idea about the case and why such an at seashore brings to mind a number of rx and eczema can often be < night in bed if they get warm so a context for these sx would be useful to know.

You also need to know why such an agg happened, is she really sensitive (careful case taking can often reveal that possibility) or was the rx one that touched too deep at this point in time and stirred up the state - when there has been a lot of suppression one has to be really careful.

For all the skin cases I have seen I always give a quality Calendula cream, sometimes mother tincture of Calendula as a wash as it is an uncomplicated and wonderfully soothing substance.

Look forward to more details. Joy

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Helen Tucker
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Re: Eczema in a 4 year old girl

Post by Helen Tucker »

Hi Sunny,

Her case sounds a lot like my son's. He also had the same eczema since 3
months old, scratches til he bleeds, better by seashore, worse at night,
disappears when he leaves this country, returns when he comes back to the
USA despite no change in diet. I also tried gluten free diets repeatedly
with no change.

Initially, for topicals, I used a calendula-coconut oil mixture, made from
fresh calendula flowers. Then I put bandaids socks over the worse spots to
keep him from scratching them until bleeding. I also cut off the ends of
socks to make a tube which I wrapped around his limbs and taped up with
waterproof tape to keep him from scratching. Now that he is better, I have
no need for it.

Hope that helps.

Best,
Helen


Dave Hartley
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Re: Eczema in a 4 year old girl

Post by Dave Hartley »

Hi Sunny,

regarding suppression & skin sx.

when the sx are intolerable, you can include herbal skin creams (maybe
not cortisone!)
--but very importantly DO let some of the skin be un-treated
So long as the VF is able to "vent" some sx to the skin, some topical
treatment should not be suppressive.
Suggest you treat only perhaps face .. or at any rate no more than
around 1/4 of the affected skin topically,
then as your homeopathic cure progresses, try discontinuing topical.

Years ago, David Little was treating one of my fellow students who was
deeply affected by the congenital TB miasm (one deformed limb) as
well as being TB positive with pains in the bone of the deformed limb.
For over a year, perhaps two .. the student had ringworm on her
chest .. started out as a nearly perfect approx. 1 foot diameter
ring, about 3/4 of an inch in width .. the chronic case was
progressing extremely well .. Ringworm is a symptom of TB miasm, so
suppressing it was out of the question ! David's approach was to
treat very small (about 2") segment of the circular ringworm
topically, while being vigilant for any disturbance in the progress of
the chronic case .. it took around 2 weeks to a month for a segment
to appear to be clear of sx of ringworm, then on to the next
segment.. working all the way 'round the circle until the ringworm
was gone. Nothing drastic happened with the the chronic case, the
student continued to gain vitality without relapse, I lost track of
her after leaving Maui.

Should you wish to re-dose with Med. LM01, be very conservative ..
dilute it out into perhaps two additional dilution glasses from where
you had first given and had aggravation. The fact that you are sure
of the Rx and had a bad aggravation are in indication of too much
medicinal input. (similar aggravation) which is liable to be a worse
aggravation in correlation to the "closeness" of your similitude.
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