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Ellen Madono
Posts: 2012
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:00 pm

how to finish a case - intergenerational family history

Post by Ellen Madono »

Dear Gail,

I have seen this inter generational carrying of emotional injury in
myself. When my mother died, I realized that I was the only one in my
family who carefully guarded her emotional outpourings to me when I
was about 10. At her funeral, I figured out that my mom had taken care
of these problems long ago, but because I was young and in need of
intimacy, I kept them for her like Pandora's box of woes.

I never thought about how such emotion could be helped with remedies.
Do you just find the right constitutional remedy and include whatever
was in the box? Or more likely, you rep the individual reaction to
the trauma. In my case, I would take in my mom's problems and treat
them as if they were my own. I am not even sure of what they were. I
just remember these deep dark conversations where I am mainly the
listener. By holding her woes for her, I felt that I was somehow
closer to her which was difficult because she was a pretty
self-centered artist type. Wouldn't my situation be the general case?
Most people would not remember the content of stuff that they had
tucked away into the subconscious. Probably holding a Pandora's box
well into adulthood is the biggest symptom (Nat-m comes to mind but it
never did much for me).

How have you thought of treating your childhood hospital trauma? What
are the remedies you are considering or the rubrics besides
abandonment? A good friend of mine committed suicide last year due to
depression that started with the same hospital abandonment so I
believe the repercussions are great.

Then there are family injuries that you I can see in most of my male
relatives on my father's side of the family. What a huge topic. It
is sort of like epidemic disease. Everyone carries the injury in a
similar way so the symptoms are similar. Of course I don't take their
homeopathic cases, but the physical manifestation are type 2 diabetes
followed by cancer if they are not killed by the first disease first.
I would like to try spraying conium 200c over the whole lot of them.
I wouldn't do that, but I bet the reaction would be subtle but strong.

I am going to call the Px who has the problems with desire to sow wild
oats. But, I think I will wait for your response. How do I get a
glimpse into the emotional stuff with his mother. I am sure the key
is there. Focus on his reaction to her. I have to find some event
that he reacts to besides her death from cancer. It took place at
about age 23. So not a childhood trauma. No information on deep
family history. Everything is normal, highly masked Catholic.

Blessings,
Ellen


Gail Allen
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Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 10:00 pm

Re: how to finish a case - intergenerational family history

Post by Gail Allen »

Hi Ellen,
I actually no longer need to think about finding a cure for the hospital trauma - it just dissolved and become irrelevant as I watched the other person's similar issue worked with in the constellation.
I think it is very true that we absorb so much as children that moves into the subconscious and we live a lot of our lives on a sort of automatic pilot rather than being truly conscious about the dynamics behind our decisions and actions.
I think your client's family's 'normality' is a bit peculiar - only families with unresolved traumas need such good white wash - but if it is intergenerational stuff he may not have easy access to it. I don't know how to access the intergenerational stuff apart from using Family Constellations method. Sorry if that isn't helpful.
I wonder how it would be if rather than focusing on finishing the case because the physical symptoms are better the client has time and space to explore himself a bit using homoeopathic remedies - keeping dream diaries, diaries about how he responds to different remedies - he might learn to know himself better and begin to take more responsibility for himself.
Gail
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: ellen.madono@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:08:10 +0900
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: how to finish a case - intergenerational family history
Dear Gail,

I have seen this inter generational carrying of emotional injury in
myself. When my mother died, I realized that I was the only one in my
family who carefully guarded her emotional outpourings to me when I
was about 10. At her funeral, I figured out that my mom had taken care
of these problems long ago, but because I was young and in need of
intimacy, I kept them for her like Pandora's box of woes.

I never thought about how such emotion could be helped with remedies.
Do you just find the right constitutional remedy and include whatever
was in the box? Or more likely, you rep the individual reaction to
the trauma. In my case, I would take in my mom's problems and treat
them as if they were my own. I am not even sure of what they were. I
just remember these deep dark conversations where I am mainly the
listener. By holding her woes for her, I felt that I was somehow
closer to her which was difficult because she was a pretty
self-centered artist type. Wouldn't my situation be the general case?
Most people would not remember the content of stuff that they had
tucked away into the subconscious. Probably holding a Pandora's box
well into adulthood is the biggest symptom (Nat-m comes to mind but it
never did much for me).

How have you thought of treating your childhood hospital trauma? What
are the remedies you are considering or the rubrics besides
abandonment? A good friend of mine committed suicide last year due to
depression that started with the same hospital abandonment so I
believe the repercussions are great.

Then there are family injuries that you I can see in most of my male
relatives on my father's side of the family. What a huge topic. It
is sort of like epidemic disease. Everyone carries the injury in a
similar way so the symptoms are similar. Of course I don't take their
homeopathic cases, but the physical manifestation are type 2 diabetes
followed by cancer if they are not killed by the first disease first.
I would like to try spraying conium 200c over the whole lot of them.
I wouldn't do that, but I bet the reaction would be subtle but strong.

I am going to call the Px who has the problems with desire to sow wild
oats. But, I think I will wait for your response. How do I get a
glimpse into the emotional stuff with his mother. I am sure the key
is there. Focus on his reaction to her. I have to find some event
that he reacts to besides her death from cancer. It took place at
about age 23. So not a childhood trauma. No information on deep
family history. Everything is normal, highly masked Catholic.

Blessings,
Ellen
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Ellen Madono
Posts: 2012
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:00 pm

Re: how to finish a case - intergenerational family history

Post by Ellen Madono »

Hi,
I was thinking there would be some way to focus on his reaction to
family trauma when I interviewed him. Then I could use that to build
the case for the next remedy.
Thanks,
Ellen


Ellen Madono
Posts: 2012
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:00 pm

Re: how to finish a case - intergenerational family history

Post by Ellen Madono »

Yes, Shannon, that is an excellent suggestion. Not just for him, but
for the focus of all interviewing. Getting off the details of the
event and thinking more about how he feels about it and what triggered
or triggers (in the past or present) those feelings.
Thank-you,
Ellen Madono


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