cyg-c? Swans?

[Shannon Nelson]

Does anyone have information on cyg-c? (Is it a swan?)

Does anyone have comparison summary between the swan remedies Cyg-b and
Cyg-o? (And Cyg-c too, if it's a swan?) I can and will of course
compare the rubrics (which I see to be similar).

Thanks,
Shannon

[Rochelle]

Yes they are swans. There are 1924 rubrics in cyg.c.. Which particvular ones did you want??
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Shannon Nelson]

Sorry, I have the rubrics, was just hoping someone could give a quick
overview comparison.

[Rochelle]

Cygn - C = Whooper swan

THEMES OF CASE

AILMENTS FROM GRIEF & SUPPRESSED GRIEF

GRIEF AS IF IT HAPPENED 5 MINS AGO, FEELS LIKE A SHOCK

HOPELESS DESPAIR

LOST LOVE FOR LIFE

DROWNING

FLYING

SHALLOW BREATHING

NECK PROBLEMS

Cygn- c-b. = Beswick swan

Cygn- o = Mute swan

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Rochelle]

Have found the following:-
Rochelle

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Swan-cygnus Cygnus

Impossible to teach swan without crying
Two swans in the zoo
Swan is the finnish national bird
Cygnus Cygnus needs a long runway
Straight beak
Whooping swan=maybe same as trumpeter swan
Song that it sings

Heart chest
Live life from the heart

I have left my heart behind
Lungs and shoulders are further down
Feeling sadness and elation at same time
Sad for lonleiness
A broken heart
Cannot bridge gap between fantasy and reality
Long neck creates big distance between head and heart

Major neck remedies-stiffness

Hollow, empty full filling

Sighing deeply
Grateful for air
Filled with holy breath
Chest if full of tears

Sighing

As if a bubble bursting,
I feel as if I need ignatia

=ignatia to the third power
=nat-m to the second power
crow loud peacock proud

light heavy
heavy limp feeling in the body sad and lonely

spirals

tall graceful
sense of feeling tall
pilates

lighthouses

number 3
mind body spirit
soul is feminine aspect stays the same
spirit is male aspect goes out into the world
parallel
even odd numbers
emotions
love
overwhelming love for everyone, opening heart
unconditional full love

swans mate for life, stay alone if one dies
swan lake-a story of death and separation
tremendous grief

abandoned, lonely
deep emotions

for us it's too late, stood at the gate
farewell letter, make it better?
Too much pain
Begin again
Like to return
Lungs so burn
Pain in neck
What the heck
Battery low
Time to go
Etc

Feel like outsider

Grief from death
As if I will never see anyone again
Provers revisited intense and deeper grief from past griefs
More ignatia than nat-m
But also has no tears

Weeping
Tears came from nowhere

Self pity

Exciting cause-grief and lost love

Suicidal thoughts
Outsider

Vulnerable, feel excluded-ugly duckling
Home homesick
Birth death
Something about the space between the spaces-between birth and death
Inevitability of death even at time of birth

Childhood
Water dry
Animals-
Birds, blackbirds, swan silhouette ,
Prison trapped
Pollution, poison, dirt
Allergy to chemicals, cleaning products
Blood is stagnant
Contaminated
Detox diet
Feel poisoned
Need to clean
Colors
Especially black and white,
Checkered
Crosswords
Black and white clothes

Swans in the southern hemisphere are black
Constellation of Cygnus

Woman born in 1956. aquarius
Sighing
Suicidal since childhood and dreams
Often attempted suicide
Loneliness as a child, cried at all tv shows
I think about flying off
Lump in throat heartburn
Desire for carrots custard
Asthma, hayfever, difficult breathing
Rheumatic
Cygnus olor (from Synthesis)
Abdomen
ABDOMEN - FLATULENCE
Back
BACK - TENSION - Cervical region
Bladder
BLADDER - URINATION - frequent
Generals
GENERALS - MUCOUS MEMBRANES - dryness
GENERALS - PAIN - rheumatic - Muscles
Skin
SKIN - ERUPTIONS - eczema - itching

Participant's dream themes
The color white
Clairvoyant dreams
Erotic dreams
Men who cannot love their women
Impotence
Travelling
Flying
Diving
Water
Water that comes through the ceiling
Being able to see and breathe under water
Snow
Broken glass
Territorial fights
Burglars
Being robbed of something
Money
Being betrayed for money
Great efforts
Fear of crowds
Burns
Hairdresser
Animals
Dogs
Death and dying
Deceased people
Death while travelling
Funerals
The Empress Elisabeth of Austria and Hungary, 1837-1898, nicknamed Sissi
Physical symptoms
Rheumatic pain in all muscles
Pain in left shoulder joint
Complaints about the sinuses, excretion of bloody mucus
Neck tension
Dry mucous membranes
Eczema, itching, red and scaling
Flatulence
Pressure on the bladder
Frequent urinating

Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Rochelle]

Swan Beswick

http://www.hominf.org/swan/swanfr.htm

Perceptions of the group process:

Prover 01

This group had a lyrical spirit, as in the 4th rhythm. It's hallmarks were a definite maturity amongst members; major issues about community or tribe - who was in & who was out- a very marked dynamic of the group, rather than me, creating the form and structure of our path together. 'Lyrical' is a step out of wounding and into creativity, of taking responsibility in a light way, of autonomy. I even took the step of refusing a place to someone on the grounds of their wounding, not wanting to deal with it - feeling this person would take too much of my attention to the detriment of the rest of the group. Further more this person was a teenager [& adolescence is related to chaos, the third rhythm, whereas lyrical is related to maturity]. Furthermore it was the rest of the group that promoted me to make this decision! Totally lyrical stuff.

Prover 03

It felt as if the remedy was shaking everything up. It is not a time to sit, but a time to do. I had been spinning in a reflective, consuming way. Now there is a need to spin the other way. I was beginning to go outside of myself. In my need to move things on I had lost myself. Work has taken up a lot of my focus. I haven't been pushing my agenda in my relationship. Painfully aware of whether I was in or out of the group. Being on the edge of groups. I became more objective about it.

I have a new awareness of my feelings towards my father. I actually feel him as a human being, with lots of love and compassion. Moving out of adolescent rebellion. I do love him. I feel that I know something about his childhood he doesn't know. It explains so much about him. He was conceived illegitimately. His mother had a nervous breakdown and he was brought up with his cousins for two years. When he was brought home to with his family he wasn't allowed any friends or to celebrate his birthday. He's always isolated.

There was a polarity between acceptance and creating my life. Strong urge to go with the flow, but the other part is: Where do you want to go?

Find I'm losing my way.

Being completely open to being closed.

Feeling like a rock.

Being separate from my state of consciousness.

The animal and angel together.

Only feeling uncomfortable when I want to be somewhere different, feel something different, want something different, separating myself from what is.

I am an insider and I want to be out
I am an insider and in is out
I am an insider and I'm on the edge
I am an insider and the edge is in and out

I feel the touch of love, the warmth
Of heart, the enveloping of
Inside - inside has sides -
I touch the walls and feel caught
I look to the outside - she is
Free, she runs and dances with
The stars
They're not talking my language
So I am silent. They don't see
Me, so I'm not here - they laugh
And I cry - I want to run away

I want to spread my wings
I want to feel myself open and
I'm clinging - closing on the inside

You are on fire outside - how did
You get there -did you run, did
You fly, were you chased, did
They lose you

I see you and I feel pity - they
Abandoned you
I see you and I feel scared - you
Are a wild card
I see you and I am jealous- you
Have what I haven't
I see you and I am inspired - you
Are what you are
I see you and I am longing - you
Left me for -------
I see you and I am abandoned - you
Don't want me
see you and I clap - you are
Dancing free with the stars

You are friend, foe, child, mother, father,

Dancer - You are God.

Prover 04

Thoughts on the remedy: group animal? Lot of people in my dreams (this is generally so for me) but sense of being connected in the group, belonging . This is unusual. Trees, forests, nature, sea feel prevalent. Strong feeling last night that this is a monkey! Arboreal animal of some kind.

Prover 07

At last I've landed. I'm really wanting space still. On the surface life is calm and happy but there's a lot under the surface pulling in different directions. It got bad when I had to sit still in the office and do some writing.

Cough - comes from back of the throat. It's tickly and dry and you can't ignore it, A raking cough. I go on and on till I drink water. I wake up at night with it - 2am. Nervous cough. worse when partner asked me to look at a website design, worse being in the car.

Now I'm not so busy, I fear depression or listlessness. When you are busy you feel important because you are at the centre of your own little whirlwind of busyness. Someone I worked with said I was like a Catherine wheel, always spinning but in danger of burning out.

Px Ambra grisea 30 helped

Prover 08

Having a quick flick through my notes, I can now see that my body image comes across as pretty bad. In fact this is not true - my body image has improved dramatically since the mirror incident at the work xmas do. Yes, I am still not slim and don't have the body I would like, but I have relaxed a lot about the whole thing. So much so that, last week, I went on a shopping spree and caught the end of the January sales. I tried on loads and loads of clothes - which I thoroughly enjoyed - and came home with 4 skimpy tops. Yes, 4. All of them strappy, sleeveless and sexy. 2 of them are completely backless, another is a butterfly bikini-type top that shows off the bellybutton. I mean, what's this about? I wouldn't have imagined buying these items, let alone wearing them. And yet I have been out clubbing wearing these little numbers. Yes, the freedom from my own censorship is amazing. I am still pretty obsessive about my food, coffee, cigarettes and exercise, but it has been a revelation.

The calmness I have experienced has been wonderful. My partner, however, has commented that I was moody and grumpy for much of the time, but I hadn't noticed. Maybe I was on the outside, whereas in reality I felt so much calmer and chilled out on the inside. Although I would've disagreed at the time, there is truth in what he says, as I feel that I am expressing my desires more and as a result would show others around me if I was grumpy rather that gloss over it as before. The only angry incident that I've written down was from the day we went to the woods, because it was so extreme. I am prepared to take Alex's word on my behaviour - I most probably was externally irritable, but the main thing was that internally the 'roaring sound' had calmed down. I am getting these episodes back again, but they aren't as frequent or as frightening as before.
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Rochelle]

OK to view this - you have to go to Zoom and increase to 50%
These are just the Mind Sx - if you want anything else you will have to tell me but am going to bed now so will do it tomorrow for you!!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Lynn Cremona]

*Cygnus Cygnus (Cygn cy)*
Whooper Swan

Proving by Jeremy and Camilla Sherr

From a feather that fell out naturally.

Here are some very sketchy notes from Jeremy Sherr's lecture on Cygnus
cygnus

I remember the grief theme as being very deep and long grief, deeper than
Nat-m or Ign.

Swan-cygnus Cygnus

Impossible to teach swan without crying
Two swans in the zoo
Swan is the finnish national bird
Cygnus Cygnus needs a long runway
Straight beak
Whooping swan=maybe same as trumpeter swan
Song that it sings

Heart chest
Live life from the heart

I have left my heart behind
Lungs and shoulders are further down
Feeling sadness and elation at same time
Sad for lonleiness
A broken heart
Cannot bridge gap between fantasy and reality
Long neck creates big distance between head and heart

Major neck remedies-stiffness

Hollow, empty full filling

Sighing deeply
Grateful for air
Filled with holy breath
Chest if full of tears

Sighing

As if a bubble bursting,
I feel as if I need ignatia

=ignatia to the third power
=nat-m to the second power
crow loud peacock proud

light heavy
heavy limp feeling in the body sad and lonely

spirals

tall graceful
sense of feeling tall
pilates

lighthouses

number 3
mind body spirit
soul is feminine aspect stays the same
spirit is male aspect goes out into the world
parallel
even odd numbers
emotions
love
overwhelming love for everyone, opening heart
unconditional full love

swans mate for life, stay alone if one dies
swan lake-a story of death and separation
tremendous grief

abandoned, lonely
deep emotions

for us it's too late, stood at the gate
farewell letter, make it better?
Too much pain
Begin again
Like to return
Lungs so burn
Pain in neck
What the heck
Battery low
Time to go
Etc

Feel like outsider

Grief from death
As if I will never see anyone again
Provers revisited intense and deeper grief from past griefs
More ignatia than nat-m
But also has no tears

Weeping
Tears came from nowhere

Self pity

Exciting cause-grief and lost love

Suicidal thoughts
Outsider

Vulnerable, feel excluded-ugly duckling
Home homesick
Birth death
Something about the space between the spaces-between birth and death
Inevitability of death even at time of birth

Childhood
Water dry
Animals-
Birds, blackbirds, swan silhouette ,
Prison trapped
Pollution, poison, dirt
Allergy to chemicals, cleaning products
Blood is stagnant
Contaminated
Detox diet
Feel poisoned
Need to clean
Colors
Especially black and white,
Checkered
Crosswords
Black and white clothes

Swans in the southern hemisphere are black
Constellation of Cygnus

Woman born in 1956. aquarius
Sighing
Suicidal since childhood and dreams
Often attempted suicide
Loneliness as a child, cried at all tv shows
I think about flying off
Lump in throat heartburn
Desire for carrots custard
Asthma, hayfever, difficult breathing
Rheumatic

[Shannon Nelson]

Rochelle and Lynn, Thanks so much!
This gives me lots to chew over.
)

[Sue Boyle]

Hi Shannon,

Looked at my bird book and both are there. Jeremy's cyg-c has few physicals, both have the ailments from grief and loss aspect but it seems that only cyg-o has the search for the soul mate.

Sue