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isali ben-jacob
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TCM Homeopathy

Post by isali ben-jacob »

Eric, I would concur with your conclusion that it is problematic
when more than one physician and healthcare system is being applied
to a single case. It is problematic but not irreconcilable. It
necessitates that the physicians along with the pt. are able to
confer and arrive at an acceptable Dx and prioritisation of Tx
protocols.

In an e-mail to Dave Hartley I intentionally did not address
protocols like acupuncture, rather, the benefit which may be
achieved by observing that the principles of oriental medicine and
homeopathic medicine are in the broadest sense the same. The
differences become manifest when we apply our respective diagnostic
methods. Our language is different and our handling of information
is different. But the energetic basis in principle I argue is the
same.

We can operate together with a most tasteful result.


Dave Hartley
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Re: TCM Homeopathy

Post by Dave Hartley »

Hello Dr. Ben-Jacob,

I know fairly little of TCM.
I have an acupuncture handbook which is practitioner oriented & five
herb/formula books, 3 of which are practitioner oriented. I've sat in on
some point location classes, and have a good knack for finding chi. I've
browsed thru a dozen herb shops in Chinatown in San Francisco

From what I know, I'd say that the herb formulas do not seem to be
homeopathic in principle (some few exceptions.) Nor does the intent or
effect of treatment in acupuncture.

In the homeopathic treatment / case management model, this means that these
treatments could be suppressive (removing a symptom at a superficial level,
in such a way as to deprive the organism of that expression of a deeper and
ongoing disease process, unaddressed by the treatment; thereby often
redirecting the disease deeper into the economy of the organism... or, if
not suppressive but palliative, then the homeopath is deprived of the
ability to see the whole case; the action of the remedy: a symptom
disappears.. was it because of the remedy? No? Was it then, the right
remedy?
WHO CAN TELL, when there is another powerful energetic healing system being
simultaneously practiced?

When I take a case, I am not much involved in diagnosis. An allopathic
diagnosis can be useful in some ways, but what I am doing is looking to see
where the chronic disease process is; what miasm is active & which parts of
the individual are involved; and where is the clearest & strongest
manifestation, which I can characterize as similar to a remedy from the
homeopathic materia medica.

In case management, I need to see every possible alteration, positive or
negative (or none) which will help me to see that the remedy I've given is
appropriate; help me to be able to adjust posology (what potency, how much
medicinal solution, how many succussions, when to repeat); and allow me to
see when to change remedies or discontinue treatment.

I tell you flat out that having a TCM practitioner involved in a case;
trying to treat at the same time is a great obstacle.

I imagine that it could be possible to develop a multi-disciplinary
approach; this would necessitate having at least one incredibly accomplished
healer with a great command of both homeopathy & TCM available for all case
consultations... the only healer I personally know who would fit the
requirements advises that the two disciplines not be mixed.

regards,
Dave Hartley
www.logonpcpro.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284
mailto:dave@localcomputermart.com
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Dr. R. Swift
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Re: TCM Homeopathy

Post by Dr. R. Swift »

Isali,

I was once told by a trained TCM practitioner (which confirmed my
observation) that TCM is essentially antipathic i.e. if it wet, give drying
herbs, if cold, warm it, if too yang, sedate it, etc. If this is true, than
I can't see how antipathy and homeopathy can be compatible.

That is why I advocate provings on TCM substances to see whether they are
antipathic, homeopathic, etc. I think that would give us the best picture
and put us all on the same track. The diagnostic methodology is secondary to
the law of similars, in my opinion.

what do you think?

russell swift, dvm


isali ben-jacob
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Re: TCM Homeopathy

Post by isali ben-jacob »

Eric, I would concur with your conclusion that it is problematic
when more than one physician and healthcare system is being applied
to a single case. It is problematic but not irreconcilable. It
necessitates that the physicians along with the pt. are able to
confer and arrive at an acceptable Dx and prioritisation of Tx
protocols.

In an e-mail to Dave Hartley I intentionally did not address
protocols like acupuncture, rather, the benefit which may be
achieved by observing that the principles of oriental medicine and
homeopathic medicine are in the broadest sense the same. The
differences become manifest when we apply our respective diagnostic
methods. Our language is different and our handling of information
is different. But the energetic basis in principle I argue is the
same.

I would only add that with whatever doctor of oriental medicine with
whom you work they should be able to share thoughts with language
that is explanatory and understandable to any doctor of
homeopathy. The result is that we will begin moving closer
together and become more supportive of each others paradigm.

We can operate together with a most tasteful result.


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