Debate on 28th April

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

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Sent: 10 April 2009 15:05
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Subject: [ARH-Media] Debate on 28th April
The KCL Social Medicine Society, the medical student interest group in medicine and society at King's College London invites you to a debate on Tuesday 28th April 2009 at 6pm
The motion of the debate is
"This house believes complementary and alternative therapies do more harm than good."

Proposing the motion
Simon Singh co-author (with Prof Edzard Ernst) of 'Trick or Treatment: alternative medicine on trial'
Prof Michael Baum Emeritus Professor of Surgery
Opposing the motion
Prof George Lewith Professor of Health Research in the Complementary and Integrated Medicine Research Unit at the University of Southampton
Prof David Peters Clinical Director, School of Integrated Health at the University of Westminster
The debate will take place at Guy's Hospital Campus and begin at 1800. We will aim to finish by 1930.
This event is open to all, so feel free to invite any interested parties or to publicise the details

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[Irene de Villiers]

On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:49 AM,
wrote:

Did they ask the house what it thought:-)))
It's as logical as the proposal:-)
Oh sure - This must be why the ONLY live cats who had FIP disease
are those helped back to health by homeopathy.
Feel free to challenge them to show a FIP cat helped by allopathy!
And of course cats know a placebo when they see one, I suppose. Yeah
right.

What turnip truck do these people fall off?
Professor of what? With which homeopathy credentials to give a right
to complain????
Homeopathy on trial? Them saying so does not make it true!

Can't be there with all the cats who had allopathically proven FIP
before homeopathy - but I'd LOVE to see the faces if I could just
waltz in there with a hundred or a few hundred cats all on leads,
plus allopathic documentation of FIP diagnosis....................
plus ANY allopathic vets of their choice to document the lack of
allopathic ability in FIP.
I'd need to fly them all in - need at least one 747 with first
class seats only (do you know a cat who would contemplate any other
class) fitted with kitty seatbelts, with all first class fresh-caught
fish in the galley?
Sigh!

I'll just have to ask the cats to send their sneering meows and
supercillious purrs telepathically.......

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Liz Brynin]

Irene - if I were a millionaire, I would pay what it takes to get you over to the debate, with as many cats as you can muster (and their fish!) And surely we could find one or two vets who just might have the honesty to say that homeopathy did what was impossible...well, a nice dream, anyway!
Liz

[robin.logan@btinternet.com]

Prof Michael Baum Emeritus Professor of Surgery
Professor of what? With which homeopathy credentials to give a right
to complain????

Irene what has turned him into a rabid skeptic are the number of cases of cancer, especially breast cancer, who over the last 30 years have died in his care having eschewed conventional treatment in favour of homeopathy and other alternatives in the early stages of the disease.

He has devoted his life to trying to improve the survival rate of breast cancer patients since watching his mother die from the disease. He seems quite an unpleasant character to me but I do have a little sympathy for his position. I havent seen any evidence that our approach to cancer is any better than his. And yes I know about Dr Ramakrishnan, he is a friend and I introduced him to the UK.

You should try and get your cases published in medical journals if you really want to help out cause.