my one experiene with such an accident was with a cat who was either hit by a vehicle or
an object. vet diagnosed a broken pelvis and said nothing to do but keep him still an wait.
i did the arnica 30c 3x/1hour which brought him out of the trauma state he was in. then began
symph 30c daily. vet said he wouldn't be moving for a couple of months. he as hopping
across the lawn on day 8! i have used this combo with broken bones very successfully on
several occasions.
but as others have noted, the case should be taken and not treated by rote.
tanya
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Acute care question - for my Mom - fractured pelvis
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Acute care question - for my Mom - fractured pelvis
Thank you all for your kind concerns, advice, and remedy suggestions.
I've seen the problems in our health care system far too often of
late. The saga has continued today with only more appalling lack of
professionalism on the part of the `traditional' medical profession.
The only thing I know for sure - homeopathy works and homeopaths are
compassionate, considerate, and supportive– even in the most difficult
situations – and that good homeopathic acute care (even with less than
perfect or full case taking) is far superior. Alternating arnica and
symphytum in addition to the percocet has given relief for a few hours
at a time, which I understand from others who have gone through a
pelvic fracture, is perhaps more relief than they ever felt during the
recovery time. There is now no evidence of the wrist fracture – no
swelling, no bruising, just a little discomfort – which I think is more
caused by the splint than the actual injury.
Donna
D C Rona, PhD, ND, DHM
I've seen the problems in our health care system far too often of
late. The saga has continued today with only more appalling lack of
professionalism on the part of the `traditional' medical profession.
The only thing I know for sure - homeopathy works and homeopaths are
compassionate, considerate, and supportive– even in the most difficult
situations – and that good homeopathic acute care (even with less than
perfect or full case taking) is far superior. Alternating arnica and
symphytum in addition to the percocet has given relief for a few hours
at a time, which I understand from others who have gone through a
pelvic fracture, is perhaps more relief than they ever felt during the
recovery time. There is now no evidence of the wrist fracture – no
swelling, no bruising, just a little discomfort – which I think is more
caused by the splint than the actual injury.
Donna
D C Rona, PhD, ND, DHM
Re: Acute care question - for my Mom - fractured pelvis
Hi Donna,
I hope your mother is resting better today.
You wrote:
Please do not underestimate the importance of keeping a fracture
still. I never suggest the use of arnica for a fracture or swelling
w/o the admonition to keep the part immobile. Swelling serves the
purpose of keeping an injured part from bending. Arnica can work so
well that the pt will further injure themself by using the part
before it is fully ready. The splint is necessary.
Sue wrote:
This is very important. Take a pen and paper with you to hosp and doc
and take notes w/times & dates. Ask questions and get details until
you understand perfectly.
When the hosp & docs see you do this they are much more careful and
you have a record of care (or lack thereof.)
You can also consider the tissue salt calc phos 6X which works
beautifully as a tonic for the elderly but also speeds the healing of
fractures.
Best regards,
Lynn
PS. This group was very helpful this past Christmas in an emergency
w/my elderly father.
I hope your mother is resting better today.
You wrote:
Please do not underestimate the importance of keeping a fracture
still. I never suggest the use of arnica for a fracture or swelling
w/o the admonition to keep the part immobile. Swelling serves the
purpose of keeping an injured part from bending. Arnica can work so
well that the pt will further injure themself by using the part
before it is fully ready. The splint is necessary.
Sue wrote:
This is very important. Take a pen and paper with you to hosp and doc
and take notes w/times & dates. Ask questions and get details until
you understand perfectly.
When the hosp & docs see you do this they are much more careful and
you have a record of care (or lack thereof.)
You can also consider the tissue salt calc phos 6X which works
beautifully as a tonic for the elderly but also speeds the healing of
fractures.
Best regards,
Lynn
PS. This group was very helpful this past Christmas in an emergency
w/my elderly father.
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d_rona2000
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Re: Acute care question - for my Mom - fractured pelvis
Thank you Lynn,
As long as there is no movement of the back or hips - she is a bit
more comfortable - which makes me worry about getting her to the
ortho dr. tomorrow. I think I will have to call for stretcher
transport - but even that will be very rough.
Yes, the splint stays on the wrist - but it was so delightful to see
a normal looking wrist as opposed to the big purple wrist and hand
that had begun when she returned from the ER. I only remove the
splint for changing her gown and a quick (very gentle) wash cloth
refreshing. I'm very familiar with the construction of the splint,
and how to get it on and off with ease since I've had to wear similar
one for the last month - dislocated thumb that won't stay put.
I'm so happy you mentioned the notebook. Yes, I keep excellent
notes. During an episode in the hospital a year ago, the doctors,
nurses and aids new I was keeping those notes, and they orchestrated
the theft of the notebook more than once - some times complete with
diversions - but it stayed in my hand at all times. I was aware of
their concerns since I had taken notes - in front of them - at
several severe medical mistakes, lack of response, and rough
treatment of my mother (and also including death of lady in the next
bed). I am not inclined to lawsuits - but they did not know that and
knew they were in deep deep trouble. I shared the info with the
nursing supervisor and hospital administrator - but nothing happened
for the better for more than one shift change. Unfortunately, it did
not improve the quality of care or communications in this current
instance. In the ER they can always say they are too busy to stay
and answer questions, and someone else will come - but they too never
seem to be available. Both past and present experiences taught me to
tell all clients to have their own advocate with them any time they
are in hospitals or rehabs, and they should take notes day and night.
I usually suggest using a bound notebook rather than loose papers.
Thanks for the cell salt idea. I am functioning on 3 hours of sleep
over the last days and very much appreciate the clear thinking
perspective you contribute.
Again - thank you to all for your support, experience, ideas, and
encoragement.
Donna
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As long as there is no movement of the back or hips - she is a bit
more comfortable - which makes me worry about getting her to the
ortho dr. tomorrow. I think I will have to call for stretcher
transport - but even that will be very rough.
Yes, the splint stays on the wrist - but it was so delightful to see
a normal looking wrist as opposed to the big purple wrist and hand
that had begun when she returned from the ER. I only remove the
splint for changing her gown and a quick (very gentle) wash cloth
refreshing. I'm very familiar with the construction of the splint,
and how to get it on and off with ease since I've had to wear similar
one for the last month - dislocated thumb that won't stay put.
I'm so happy you mentioned the notebook. Yes, I keep excellent
notes. During an episode in the hospital a year ago, the doctors,
nurses and aids new I was keeping those notes, and they orchestrated
the theft of the notebook more than once - some times complete with
diversions - but it stayed in my hand at all times. I was aware of
their concerns since I had taken notes - in front of them - at
several severe medical mistakes, lack of response, and rough
treatment of my mother (and also including death of lady in the next
bed). I am not inclined to lawsuits - but they did not know that and
knew they were in deep deep trouble. I shared the info with the
nursing supervisor and hospital administrator - but nothing happened
for the better for more than one shift change. Unfortunately, it did
not improve the quality of care or communications in this current
instance. In the ER they can always say they are too busy to stay
and answer questions, and someone else will come - but they too never
seem to be available. Both past and present experiences taught me to
tell all clients to have their own advocate with them any time they
are in hospitals or rehabs, and they should take notes day and night.
I usually suggest using a bound notebook rather than loose papers.
Thanks for the cell salt idea. I am functioning on 3 hours of sleep
over the last days and very much appreciate the clear thinking
perspective you contribute.
Again - thank you to all for your support, experience, ideas, and
encoragement.
Donna
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "lynnpax" wrote:
no
so
the
need
doc
of
Re: Acute care question - for my Mom - fractured pelvis
I come in late on this because I’ve been off e-mail for a few days, but would consider using Calc-fl., along with Symphytum, as Shannon suggested. I had a case of spontaneous fracture of the sacrum (in an elderly woman on anti-osteoporotic meds). Very, very painful, but Calc-fl. got her off painkillers.
Peace,
Dale
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shannon & Bob Nelson
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:28 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Acute care question - for my Mom - fractured pelvis
Would it be appropriate to give symphytum, and/or to take as much case as you can get and choose the best-indicated "broken bone remedy", taking into account her mood and generals--and then gauge appropriateness of the remedy by whether or not it makes her feel better, both with regard to the pain and also otherwise? (Which, however, doesn't answer the question of what movement she should or should not do--incredible that they didn't tell you that!!)
Shannon
Fran, yes, thank youm, it is a very frustrating position to be in. I
have no information abut the extent - the radiologist was not
available. The doctors and nurses at the hospital would provide NO
information. The GP is away for the weekend. The osteo will not
give advice before seeing her and will not see her until next week.
Just feel so helpless. Must simply rely on basic acute care
approach. I know it is never wise to treat family - but in this case -
I am it.
Thanks for answering so quickly.
Donna
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Peace,
Dale
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shannon & Bob Nelson
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:28 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Acute care question - for my Mom - fractured pelvis
Would it be appropriate to give symphytum, and/or to take as much case as you can get and choose the best-indicated "broken bone remedy", taking into account her mood and generals--and then gauge appropriateness of the remedy by whether or not it makes her feel better, both with regard to the pain and also otherwise? (Which, however, doesn't answer the question of what movement she should or should not do--incredible that they didn't tell you that!!)
Shannon
Fran, yes, thank youm, it is a very frustrating position to be in. I
have no information abut the extent - the radiologist was not
available. The doctors and nurses at the hospital would provide NO
information. The GP is away for the weekend. The osteo will not
give advice before seeing her and will not see her until next week.
Just feel so helpless. Must simply rely on basic acute care
approach. I know it is never wise to treat family - but in this case -
I am it.
Thanks for answering so quickly.
Donna
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