Hi, we had a cured case presented recently which had some similarities to
your son's case. However each case should be taken on its own merits and I
thought I would offer the following:-
Someone suggested changing your homeopath - I definitely agree with that.
But if you would like some suggestions re: a remedy anyway I have some
questions - is the cough part of the compulsive behaviour? When and how did
this behaviour begin? Can you describe this behaviour in more detail? Is
your son taking any other medication? Has he ever had an incident when he
was terribly frightened by something or bitten by a dog for example?
I summarised your notes as this.
sensation in the throat as if there is something there to expel
barking and rattling cough
eats little
unassertive but strong opinion
not shy
confused
dizzy especially in am
friendly and agreeable
thin, weak, sickly,
sensitive
wakes tired
+ carbs, eggs, meat, cold drinks
- bananas
tired and malnourished
hates school
socially immature
addicted to stimulants (electronic)
terrified of needles
SILICEA affects the nerves increasing their susceptibility and causing
exaggerated reflexes (tics). Keenly sensitive to noise, pain and cold. Wants
plenty of warmth. Has spasms and epilepsy. Tendency to easy exhaustion.
Malnutrition and arrested development. Want of grit. Restless and fidgety,
starts at the least noise. Ill affects of vaccination!!! >> warmth, magnetism
and electricity!!!, lying down, being rubbed.
Great fear of pointed things such as pins and needles. Very headstrong and
self willed, obstinate but won't push their thoughts on people - yielding -
intelligent but won't assert. Friendly and agreeable as you say. Mentally
alert but physically weak. But also brainfag, cannot express themselves
properly.
Sensation of a splinter or feather in the throat and coughs to expel this.
Silicea is well know for expelling foreign substances.
Loves ice water. Doesn't like meat though. Averse to cooked food, warm food,
milk.
Gagging cough with rattling in the chest.
Sleep unrefreshed, wakes tired.
And then there is CALC. CARB. Coincidentally this is the Rx that cured in
the other presented case.
Improper assimilation of calcium gives rise to defective nutrition.
Therefore there is a sluggish habit. Can be emaciated or fat and flabby.
Malnutrition and muscular atrophy. Tired and malnourished. Jaded mentally
and physically. Forgetful and learns poorly. Gets confused. Inability to
apply himself. Fear of pain (the needles?) Hates to be watched (fear of
criticism?). Obstinate and self willed. Very chilly but also usually very
sweaty. Dull lethargic children who do not want to play. Pituitary and
thyroid dysfunction. Has a tickling cough as though a feather or dust were
in the throat. Loves cold drinks. >>> being rubbed, lying down on back.
Loves eggs but also averse to meat. Loss of appetite. Related to Silicea.
These are the 2 remedies I have been thinking about re: your son but I
wouldn't really want to suggest a remedy at this stage. But some ideas,
maybe.
Hope this helps, and perhaps you could supply a bit more information.
best wishes, Joy Lucas RSHom.
remedy ideas
Re: remedy ideas
Dear all, further to my email re this subject, Heide has given this extra
information regarding her son. If anyone has any ideas or advice perhaps
they would mail to the list for us all to read. Heide would certainly
appreciate it. I have included my earlier notes as she has inserted her
notes as answers to my questions.
Best wishes, Joy Lucas
----------
From: Heide Strauss wrote:
Hi, we had a cured case presented recently which had some similarities to
your son's case. However each case should be taken on its own merits and I
thought I would offer the following:-
Thank you I would be grateful for ;any help.
Someone suggested changing your homeopath - I definitely agree with that.
I most definately plan to.
But if you would like some suggestions re: a remedy anyway I have some
questions - is the cough part of the compulsive behaviour?
Neurologist thought so, He does have the "urge" to do it, but I'm not sure
if it is part of it, because he DOES make little singsongy sounds (not with
cough) which I would consider Obsessive compulsive Disorder. The fact that
he's trying to expel something makes me think it;s different than an
involuntary tic, also not the ocd factor of feeling like something bad will
happen if the tic is not performed.
When and how did
this behaviour begin?
Strangely, I brought him to an NAET practioner (allergy elimination through
accupressure on spine while holding allergin) for food allergies and fatigue
around age 7.... After the first treatment (eggs), he seemed like a
different child, OUTGOING. After the calcium tx THIS IS WHEN THE OCD KICKED
IN (coincidence??). New naet practitioner said he wasn't emotionally cleared
for calcium, so she treated him again, (promised ocd would go away) didn't
help. He's been through all ;kinds of ;different compulsive
tendencies....none obscene or disruptive like classical tourrettes.
Can you describe this behaviour in more detail?
Originally, he would do a little skipping motion, quickly stepping in a spot
a few times, then twirl around. Next he would make squeaking repetive
noises in an ocd fashion (until he got it "right") then a sort of neck
twitch (he said he felt like he had to stretch) while he did the sounds.
Neurologist questioned this being a seizure.....I am certain they are not.
Had to "get someone back" that hit him even accidentally, obsessively. If
someone labeled him (even a neutral word like tired) he would angrilly say
"Im not YOU are!" Then, almost 2 years ago, the cough began. It wanes at
stretches, but at its worse, you just want to put him out to pasture
Presently , he has the cough alot, worse at times of excitement or
nervousness, and the compulsive sounds like "ooouuut ooouuut ooouuut" then
a quick fluttering of his fingers like hes playing the piano on an imaginary
one. He stomps and whines when work is asked of him. No probs in school
though.
Is
your son taking any other medication?
Never any meds. He also has stomach pain for years before gastro.
discovered severe constipation.(last year) I do believe there is a gut-
brain connection to this.
Has he ever had an incident when he
was terribly frightened by something or bitten by a dog for example?
YES At age 4 we were in a terrible high speed auto collision during a
downpour.... he was severely traumatized... wouldn't take his seat belt off
even after the paramedics came... got a bad seat belt burn on tummy. Also,
after this, he became a very low talker...also had extreme anxiety for a
while whenever we drove in the rain. I was 1 month pregnant at the time, and
he has gone steadily downhill since then, but not starting then.
I summarised your notes as this.
sensation in the throat as if there is something there to expel
barking and rattling cough
eats little
unassertive but strong opinion
not shy
confused
dizzy especially in am
friendly and agreeable
thin, weak, sickly,
sensitive
wakes tired
+ carbs, eggs, meat, cold drinks
- bananas
tired and malnourished
hates school
socially immature
addicted to stimulants (electronic)
terrified of needles
SILICEA affects the nerves increasing their susceptibility and causing
exaggerated reflexes (tics). Keenly sensitive to noise, pain and cold. Wants
plenty of warmth. Has spasms and epilepsy. Tendency to easy exhaustion.
Malnutrition and arrested development. Want of grit. Restless and fidgety,
starts at the least noise. Ill affects of vaccination!!! >> warmth, magnetism
and electricity!!!, lying down, being rubbed.
Great fear of pointed things such as pins and needles. Very headstrong and
self willed, obstinate but won't push their thoughts on people - yielding -
intelligent but won't assert. Friendly and agreeable as you say. Mentally
alert but physically weak. But also brainfag, cannot express themselves
properly.
Sensation of a splinter or feather in the throat and coughs to expel this.
Silicea is well know for expelling foreign substances.
Loves ice water. Doesn't like meat though. Averse to cooked food, warm food,
milk.
Gagging cough with rattling in the chest.
Sleep unrefreshed, wakes tired.
I suggested this to the homeo.... the picture of the silicea child in my
homeo. book actually LOOKS like my son!! He prescribed agaricus. What
do you think of that?
And then there is CALC. CARB. Coincidentally this is the Rx that cured in
the other presented case.
Improper assimilation of calcium gives rise to defective nutrition.
Therefore there is a sluggish habit. Can be emaciated or fat and flabby.
Malnutrition and muscular atrophy. Tired and malnourished. Jaded mentally
and physically. Forgetful and learns poorly. Gets confused. Inability to
apply himself. Fear of pain (the needles?) Hates to be watched (fear of
criticism?). Obstinate and self willed. Very chilly but also usually very
sweaty. Dull lethargic children who do not want to play. Pituitary and
thyroid dysfunction. Has a tickling cough as though a feather or dust were
in the throat. Loves cold drinks. >>> being rubbed, lying down on back.
Loves eggs but also averse to meat. Loss of appetite. Related to Silicea.
MY 5 yo is definately a calc. carb... that isn't as accurate as the silicea
you ;suggested.
These are the 2 remedies I have been thinking about re: your son but I
wouldn't really want to suggest a remedy at this stage. But some ideas,
maybe.
Hope this helps, and perhaps you could supply a bit more information.
Thank you so much . I appreciate your interest and advice. Sincerely
Heide
please feel free to post this on the site.......
she then sent more answers to my questions....
what is it about the bananas that he dislikes so much and is it to do with
his general stomach discomfort?
The strong awful banana smell... and the thought of it touching him or
ending up in his food....NOT due to stomach reaction. he used to eat them,
as well as banana bread.
does he have any fears or phobias?
None major.... he ALWAYS has to ask "is this mine?" when he prepares to eat
or drink something (afraid of other's germs?) not debilitating though
(doesn't do it at school) Refuses to eat over friend's house now (dinner)
used to. Very afraid of intrusive treatments...x rays (says they hurt)
needles, any anticipation of pain. (nails clipped, cut washed, hair washed,
teeth flossed) he has mouth sores frequently. He is very defensive to
criticism...so maybe a fear of ridicule?
can you say more about his sleep patterns, + any dreams, nightmares etc?
NEVER mentions dreams, don'tknow if he does. (I always wake him up, too)
wakes up tired. Has trouble falling asleep on his own unless he has an
audiotape story to listen to.
you say he is definitely a calc carb but also looks like a silicea
Im sorry....let me clarify. My 5yo is DEF. a calc. carb, so I know what one
behaves like.... JOHN (10) the child I'm most concerned about looks like the
picture of the Silicea. He does fit some of the calc. carb const. but not
closely matched.
can you say a bit more about this. I don't know if you are a homeopath
yourself
Funny, I AM NOT but am seriously thinking I may as well as I have the need,
interest, and seem to have a hell of alot more common homeopathic sense than
our homeopath!! I've read EVERYTHING on earth regarding Homeopathy that is
available to me.
but you obviously know quite a bit about the remedies - which does he most
resemble?
Definately Silicea, your thought.
re: his first prescription of Hyos. it would appear that this rx did a lot
but the case was spoilt by further unnecessary remedies - is that how it
was?
yes, although I am unsure about annetdoting (sp?) by things. I know he is
highly sensitive to alot, it did initially help.
Sorry to bother you again with so many questions but it would be interesting
to know a bit more and especially if the group can help in some way.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
information regarding her son. If anyone has any ideas or advice perhaps
they would mail to the list for us all to read. Heide would certainly
appreciate it. I have included my earlier notes as she has inserted her
notes as answers to my questions.
Best wishes, Joy Lucas
----------
From: Heide Strauss wrote:
Hi, we had a cured case presented recently which had some similarities to
your son's case. However each case should be taken on its own merits and I
thought I would offer the following:-
Thank you I would be grateful for ;any help.
Someone suggested changing your homeopath - I definitely agree with that.
I most definately plan to.
But if you would like some suggestions re: a remedy anyway I have some
questions - is the cough part of the compulsive behaviour?
Neurologist thought so, He does have the "urge" to do it, but I'm not sure
if it is part of it, because he DOES make little singsongy sounds (not with
cough) which I would consider Obsessive compulsive Disorder. The fact that
he's trying to expel something makes me think it;s different than an
involuntary tic, also not the ocd factor of feeling like something bad will
happen if the tic is not performed.
When and how did
this behaviour begin?
Strangely, I brought him to an NAET practioner (allergy elimination through
accupressure on spine while holding allergin) for food allergies and fatigue
around age 7.... After the first treatment (eggs), he seemed like a
different child, OUTGOING. After the calcium tx THIS IS WHEN THE OCD KICKED
IN (coincidence??). New naet practitioner said he wasn't emotionally cleared
for calcium, so she treated him again, (promised ocd would go away) didn't
help. He's been through all ;kinds of ;different compulsive
tendencies....none obscene or disruptive like classical tourrettes.
Can you describe this behaviour in more detail?
Originally, he would do a little skipping motion, quickly stepping in a spot
a few times, then twirl around. Next he would make squeaking repetive
noises in an ocd fashion (until he got it "right") then a sort of neck
twitch (he said he felt like he had to stretch) while he did the sounds.
Neurologist questioned this being a seizure.....I am certain they are not.
Had to "get someone back" that hit him even accidentally, obsessively. If
someone labeled him (even a neutral word like tired) he would angrilly say
"Im not YOU are!" Then, almost 2 years ago, the cough began. It wanes at
stretches, but at its worse, you just want to put him out to pasture
Presently , he has the cough alot, worse at times of excitement or
nervousness, and the compulsive sounds like "ooouuut ooouuut ooouuut" then
a quick fluttering of his fingers like hes playing the piano on an imaginary
one. He stomps and whines when work is asked of him. No probs in school
though.
Is
your son taking any other medication?
Never any meds. He also has stomach pain for years before gastro.
discovered severe constipation.(last year) I do believe there is a gut-
brain connection to this.
Has he ever had an incident when he
was terribly frightened by something or bitten by a dog for example?
YES At age 4 we were in a terrible high speed auto collision during a
downpour.... he was severely traumatized... wouldn't take his seat belt off
even after the paramedics came... got a bad seat belt burn on tummy. Also,
after this, he became a very low talker...also had extreme anxiety for a
while whenever we drove in the rain. I was 1 month pregnant at the time, and
he has gone steadily downhill since then, but not starting then.
I summarised your notes as this.
sensation in the throat as if there is something there to expel
barking and rattling cough
eats little
unassertive but strong opinion
not shy
confused
dizzy especially in am
friendly and agreeable
thin, weak, sickly,
sensitive
wakes tired
+ carbs, eggs, meat, cold drinks
- bananas
tired and malnourished
hates school
socially immature
addicted to stimulants (electronic)
terrified of needles
SILICEA affects the nerves increasing their susceptibility and causing
exaggerated reflexes (tics). Keenly sensitive to noise, pain and cold. Wants
plenty of warmth. Has spasms and epilepsy. Tendency to easy exhaustion.
Malnutrition and arrested development. Want of grit. Restless and fidgety,
starts at the least noise. Ill affects of vaccination!!! >> warmth, magnetism
and electricity!!!, lying down, being rubbed.
Great fear of pointed things such as pins and needles. Very headstrong and
self willed, obstinate but won't push their thoughts on people - yielding -
intelligent but won't assert. Friendly and agreeable as you say. Mentally
alert but physically weak. But also brainfag, cannot express themselves
properly.
Sensation of a splinter or feather in the throat and coughs to expel this.
Silicea is well know for expelling foreign substances.
Loves ice water. Doesn't like meat though. Averse to cooked food, warm food,
milk.
Gagging cough with rattling in the chest.
Sleep unrefreshed, wakes tired.
I suggested this to the homeo.... the picture of the silicea child in my
homeo. book actually LOOKS like my son!! He prescribed agaricus. What
do you think of that?
And then there is CALC. CARB. Coincidentally this is the Rx that cured in
the other presented case.
Improper assimilation of calcium gives rise to defective nutrition.
Therefore there is a sluggish habit. Can be emaciated or fat and flabby.
Malnutrition and muscular atrophy. Tired and malnourished. Jaded mentally
and physically. Forgetful and learns poorly. Gets confused. Inability to
apply himself. Fear of pain (the needles?) Hates to be watched (fear of
criticism?). Obstinate and self willed. Very chilly but also usually very
sweaty. Dull lethargic children who do not want to play. Pituitary and
thyroid dysfunction. Has a tickling cough as though a feather or dust were
in the throat. Loves cold drinks. >>> being rubbed, lying down on back.
Loves eggs but also averse to meat. Loss of appetite. Related to Silicea.
MY 5 yo is definately a calc. carb... that isn't as accurate as the silicea
you ;suggested.
These are the 2 remedies I have been thinking about re: your son but I
wouldn't really want to suggest a remedy at this stage. But some ideas,
maybe.
Hope this helps, and perhaps you could supply a bit more information.
Thank you so much . I appreciate your interest and advice. Sincerely
Heide
please feel free to post this on the site.......
she then sent more answers to my questions....
what is it about the bananas that he dislikes so much and is it to do with
his general stomach discomfort?
The strong awful banana smell... and the thought of it touching him or
ending up in his food....NOT due to stomach reaction. he used to eat them,
as well as banana bread.
does he have any fears or phobias?
None major.... he ALWAYS has to ask "is this mine?" when he prepares to eat
or drink something (afraid of other's germs?) not debilitating though
(doesn't do it at school) Refuses to eat over friend's house now (dinner)
used to. Very afraid of intrusive treatments...x rays (says they hurt)
needles, any anticipation of pain. (nails clipped, cut washed, hair washed,
teeth flossed) he has mouth sores frequently. He is very defensive to
criticism...so maybe a fear of ridicule?
can you say more about his sleep patterns, + any dreams, nightmares etc?
NEVER mentions dreams, don'tknow if he does. (I always wake him up, too)
wakes up tired. Has trouble falling asleep on his own unless he has an
audiotape story to listen to.
you say he is definitely a calc carb but also looks like a silicea
Im sorry....let me clarify. My 5yo is DEF. a calc. carb, so I know what one
behaves like.... JOHN (10) the child I'm most concerned about looks like the
picture of the Silicea. He does fit some of the calc. carb const. but not
closely matched.
can you say a bit more about this. I don't know if you are a homeopath
yourself
Funny, I AM NOT but am seriously thinking I may as well as I have the need,
interest, and seem to have a hell of alot more common homeopathic sense than
our homeopath!! I've read EVERYTHING on earth regarding Homeopathy that is
available to me.
but you obviously know quite a bit about the remedies - which does he most
resemble?
Definately Silicea, your thought.
re: his first prescription of Hyos. it would appear that this rx did a lot
but the case was spoilt by further unnecessary remedies - is that how it
was?
yes, although I am unsure about annetdoting (sp?) by things. I know he is
highly sensitive to alot, it did initially help.
Sorry to bother you again with so many questions but it would be interesting
to know a bit more and especially if the group can help in some way.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: remedy ideas
Dear Heide,
Can you say what exactly was the aetiology of your son's illness? Was it the
suppressed skin condition or something else. If it was a number of rx come
into play here - Calc, cuprum, silicea (amongst others). These three
remedies also have a connection between the stomach and the brain as in the
epileptic aura begins in the stomach.
Also am I right in remembering that you said there was a strange noise to
the cough - is it a bellowing type of noise?
I hope the posts have been interesting for you regarding your son. It
certainly is interesting for us and I hope you will share his future
progress with us.
Best wishes, Joy Lucas.
Can you say what exactly was the aetiology of your son's illness? Was it the
suppressed skin condition or something else. If it was a number of rx come
into play here - Calc, cuprum, silicea (amongst others). These three
remedies also have a connection between the stomach and the brain as in the
epileptic aura begins in the stomach.
Also am I right in remembering that you said there was a strange noise to
the cough - is it a bellowing type of noise?
I hope the posts have been interesting for you regarding your son. It
certainly is interesting for us and I hope you will share his future
progress with us.
Best wishes, Joy Lucas.
Re: remedy ideas
--
Dear Joy
- In minutus@y..., Joy Lucas wrote:
The original reason I sought alt. treatments was his severe allergies
(mostly environmental, also food sens.)hay fever in spring, His only
physical symptoms were constant lethargy, bloated stomach (despite
being thin...yeast?) and unbearably itch legs, usually at night
worse, (bad exzema age 1-2WHICH He took CORTIZONE FOR!!! Ugh, that
IS supressive, isn't it? Perhaps it all began then.....
Was it the
The reason bringing me to the homeopathic MD was a chronic cough
(without and now with vocal tics) also severe constipation (diagnosed
with xray) and obsessive compuls. disorder. (diag with tourrettes)ocd
began after a naet treatment for calcium. (2? yrs ago)
If it was a number of rx come
as in the
noise to
The cough sounds dry and sawing, but harsh.... exaccerbated with
excitement or fear, nervousness. Hi IS making a singsongy repetitive
sound preceding the cough (uh,uh,uh, eeeeh, uh, uh...cough)
It
They have been very helpful. I appreciate all the considerate
responses I have received. I welcome them.
Dear Joy
- In minutus@y..., Joy Lucas wrote:
The original reason I sought alt. treatments was his severe allergies
(mostly environmental, also food sens.)hay fever in spring, His only
physical symptoms were constant lethargy, bloated stomach (despite
being thin...yeast?) and unbearably itch legs, usually at night
worse, (bad exzema age 1-2WHICH He took CORTIZONE FOR!!! Ugh, that
IS supressive, isn't it? Perhaps it all began then.....
Was it the
The reason bringing me to the homeopathic MD was a chronic cough
(without and now with vocal tics) also severe constipation (diagnosed
with xray) and obsessive compuls. disorder. (diag with tourrettes)ocd
began after a naet treatment for calcium. (2? yrs ago)
If it was a number of rx come
as in the
noise to
The cough sounds dry and sawing, but harsh.... exaccerbated with
excitement or fear, nervousness. Hi IS making a singsongy repetitive
sound preceding the cough (uh,uh,uh, eeeeh, uh, uh...cough)
It
They have been very helpful. I appreciate all the considerate
responses I have received. I welcome them.