Okoubaka

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks, Donna!

[Rochelle Marsden]

Anyone else used it and can report back. Sounds like a great remedy.
Rochelle Marsden Msc, RSHom, MNWCH, AAMET

Registered with the Society of Homeopaths

EFT(Advanced) Practitioner

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of D C Rona
Sent: 03 June 2012 17:56
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Okoubaka
I've used it very successfully in the case of poisoning of a dog several years ago. I've also used it more recently when a dog was thought to be exposed to toxins and began to show neurologic symptoms – totally well 10 minutes after one dry dose. Seems to be a brilliant first aid remedy in anyone's modern kit.
Donna
D C Rona PhD, ND, DHM

www.NaturopathOnTheWeb.com

www.ModernHolisticHealth.com

Rona@consultant.com
From: Dale Moss >
Reply-To: >
Date: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:20 AM
To: Minutus >
Subject: [Minutus] Okoubaka
A few days ago I had a call from a patient about her cat, a good eater (raw diet) who'd lost interest in food over a period of ten days, then abruptly stopped eating entirely. She reported that the cat was hiding out, his eyes had started to glaze over, and his breathing was shallow and rapid. It sounded as if the animal was dying.
She feared that the cat might have been poisoned (no reason for this deduction) and gave him a couple of doses of Okoubaka. The next day he was in much better shape, even eating a bit, though still not back to his old self. She had called to see if I'd be available in case he relapsed, which does not appear to have happened.
I thought Okoubaka a relatively obscure remedy usually used for gluten intolerance. But this member of the Sandalwood family has other interesting uses:
"The dried bark is used medicinally. Okoubaka is used in the prevention and treatment of poisoning. In studies, okoubaka has shown the ability to stimulate the body's defense mechanisms against poisonings. Effectiveness has been seen with food-poisoning, pesticide poisoning, and many self-poisoning (auto toxic) diseases. An allergy inhibits the ability of the body's defense mechanism, or the immune system; Okoubaka helps the body regain control and normalizes the immune system to fight off other potential aggressors.

Derived from the bark of a West African tree, OKOUBAKA drops (2x) treat acute gastrointestinal tract infections, especially those accompanied by diarrhea caused by contaminated food. It also stimulates the excretion of mycotic toxins and speeds detoxification of the intestines and other organs. OKOUBAKA drops help patients deal with chronic infestations of Candida albicans and Mucor racemosus, both of which can rapidly multiply and cause acute infections."
In addition to food poisoning, another promising use is in treating side effects of chemo.
Peace,

Dale

[Rochelle Marsden]

Brilliant Leilanae. This will be what was in that blank word.doc I reckon!!
Thanks
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leilanae
Sent: 03 June 2012 18:44
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [Minutus] Okoubaka
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , "rochelle Marsden" > wrote:

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Hi Rochelle:

Here is a copy of an email you sent to Minutes on 18 Dec 08

Leilanae

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Stuff I have collected on this Rx

Rochelle

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Nausea
Worse: smell of food - especially oil, standing
Better: ice cream, open air, lying, mental exertion

Occasional stomach cramps with shooting pain down the bowels to anus
causing contractions of the anus
When the nausea is bad there is diarrhoea
"Sickly" headache, feeling woozy, vacant, "feeling not there"
Like a permanent ache in the forehead and vertex
Hot face and head
Headache - Worse: heat, smell of food, mental exertion
Headache - Better: open air, drinking cold water
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Okoubaka aubrevillei Pelleg:

A tree growing in West-Africa. In former times only medicine-men had access
to this tree. When one was invited by another tribe to a festivity with
plenty of meals, one took Okoubaka to avoid being poisened.

In Germany often used in lower X-potencies. Recommended during voyages to
tropical regions, to avoid gastro-intestinal disturbances.

Clinical:
alimentary intoxications; intoxications from insecticides; toxic states
after infections; in tropical diseases;

Said also to be useful after symptoms of suppression after antibiotics.

Generalities
Troubles, consecutive to food poisoning.
Allergic troubles with pancreatic reflexes following intoxication by
insecticides.
Troubles of intoxication following different infections.
Nicotine intoxication, with gastric uneasiness.
General weakness.

Neuro-endocrino-psychic system
Repeated headache.
Vertigo.
Weakness of memory, difficulty to concentrate.
School difficulties (difficulties of students).

Digestive apparatus
Anorexia.
Distension and fullness of the stomach.
Eructations, nauseas, sometimes vomiting and vertigo.
Borborygmes often accompanied by colic and/or diarrhoea.
Flatulent dyspepsia.
Heaviness and tension in the gastric region.
Aerocolia.

Metabolic troubles
Unstability of glycemia.

Cardio-hemo-vascular apparatus
Precordial pains of angina pectoris type.
Pricking in the precordial region.
Venous troubles of the lower limbs.

Clinical diagnosis
Asthenia. School's boys headache.
Retardation of boys in the school.
Allergic syndromes.
Gastro-enteritis.
Cardiospasm.
Diabetes.
Food poisoning.
Residual symptoms of enterocolitis, infectious, of influenza, of
toxoplasmosis, of infantile and tropical diseases, of intoxication from
tobacco.

The Complete Repertory lists the following rubrics:

MIND; MEMORY; weakness, loss of*
MIND; LEARNING; poorly*
GENERALITIES; CONVALESCENCE, ailments during*
GENERALITIES; CONVALESCENCE, ailments during; post-influenzal*
GENERALITIES; INTOXICATION, after***
GENERALITIES; PSORA*
GENERALITIES; TOBACCO; agg.*
GENERALITIES; TOBACCO; nicotinism*
GENERALITIES; WEAKNESS, enervation*
GENERALITIES; WEAKNESS, enervation; mental; exertion, from*

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From clinical experience add to this remedy in cases of chemotherapy:
All the above symptoms have been relieved with Okoubaka with a 50% reduction in nausea.

This rubric lists three black type remedies `Nux-v, Okou, Op.
The initial main remedy I have seen is Okoubaka, although often the acute remedy has changed during the course of the allopathic treatment.
per
Paul Tassie

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Okoubaka
I have used this remedy several times in cases for the side-effects of chemotherapy.
Having treated a number of cases of cancer who have also undergone allopathic treatment, I `played with MacRep' to research possible remedies for the side-effects of allopathic treatments, such as chemotherapy and radiotherapy, to use as intercurrent remedies.
In the process I was intrigued by Okoubaka, being such a small remedy, and yet being graded in the Complete Repertory as a 3 in the rubric `Generalities, Intoxication, after'.

One of the major side-effects of chemotherapy which gives discomfort to the patient (besides hair loss, low blood cell counts, etc.), is nausea.

There was a case I had of nausea from chemotherapy that appeared to present the symptoms of Tabacum yet did not really fit the proving symptoms. I prescribed Okoubaka by analogy based on the rubrics:

Generalities; Tobacco; agg. and Generalities; Tobacco; nicotinism. I saw this as Okoubaka having a relationship to Tabacum, and saw the poisoning effects of chemotherapy in the rubric Generalities; Intoxication, after.
The following is a composite case for the nausea from chemotherapy which I put together from cured symptoms from several cases.
Nausea
Worse: smell of food - especially oil, standing
Better: ice cream, open air, lying, mental exertion

Occasional stomach cramps them shooting pain down to bowel and anus causing contractions of anus
When the nausea was bad there was diarrhea
Headache - sickly headache, feeling woozy, vacant, not there feeling
Like a permanent ache - forehead and vertex
Hot head and face
Headache - Worse: heat, smell of food, mental exertion
- Better: open air, drinking cold water
per
Dr. Jeffrey Levine

[healthinfo6]

Wonder how liver beneficial this bark/remedy is since poisons, etc. are detoxified by the liver. It was just mentioned on the news, but not new news, that taking too much Tylenol/acetominophen is liver damiaging and sometimes fatal. I remember reading certain mushrooms and milk thistle are able to treat this.
I live near health stores that cater to an African clientele and carry various African and Jamaican health "elixirs". I'll look for Okoubaka.
It does seem to be liver related...
http://forums.hpathy.com/forum_posts.as ... c-okoubaka
Susan

[wench57]

I am a lurker as I don't have much time to post but I learn from all of you, many thanks! I would like to add Okoubaka to my kit as I think this would come in extremely handy. Besides having a dog poisoned once I suffer from Celiac Disease. rarely do I encounter gluten but when I do it is extremely painful and incapacitates me for a few days. I have been looking to buy this here in the US but haven't found a reliable source, any suggestions? I appreciate all the information that I am getting from this group
Nancy
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi~
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[Sarah]

Interesting discussion. Has anyone used this with 'c diff' (c
difficile), either with or without good results?

Sarah

[Dale Moss]

I haven't used Okoubaka with C. diff., but I used the C. diff. nosode with good results in a paralyzed patient some years ago.
Peace,
Dale

[D C Rona]

The last time I purchased Okoubaka I had to order it from England. It was either Ainsworth or Helios – not sure which. The shipping fee is hefty – but if it saves your dog's life one time – it was well worth it.
Donna

D C Rona PhD, ND, DHM
www.NaturopathOnTheWeb.com

Rona@consultant.com
From: wench57 >
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Date: Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:01 PM
To: >
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Okoubaka
I am a lurker as I don't have much time to post but I learn from all of you, many thanks! I would like to add Okoubaka to my kit as I think this would come in extremely handy. Besides having a dog poisoned once I suffer from Celiac Disease. rarely do I encounter gluten but when I do it is extremely painful and incapacitates me for a few days. I have been looking to buy this here in the US but haven't found a reliable source, any suggestions? I appreciate all the information that I am getting from this group
Nancy
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi~
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[Tanya Marquette]

Donna,
FYI, you web address is not working
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From: D C Rona
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:28 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
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The last time I purchased Okoubaka I had to order it from England. It was either Ainsworth or Helios – not sure which. The shipping fee is hefty – but if it saves your dog's life one time – it was well worth it.
Donna
D C Rona PhD, ND, DHM
www.NaturopathOnTheWeb.com
Rona@consultant.com
From: wench57 >
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Date: Sunday, June 3, 2012 7:01 PM
To: >
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Okoubaka

I am a lurker as I don't have much time to post but I learn from all of you, many thanks! I would like to add Okoubaka to my kit as I think this would come in extremely handy. Besides having a dog poisoned once I suffer from Celiac Disease. rarely do I encounter gluten but when I do it is extremely painful and incapacitates me for a few days. I have been looking to buy this here in the US but haven't found a reliable source, any suggestions? I appreciate all the information that I am getting from this group
Nancy
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi~
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[Shannon Nelson]

? I haven't found Helios expensive, or has my poor memory blocked something?
Somewhere in the past I got it either from Hahnemann (US) or Helios, can't remember.