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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Thanks Grace, that's a higher potency than I've used, so maybe we'll
try that... Where do you get them from? (In the past I wasn't able to
find the specific ones she was on, so a couple of times she made her
own, so was happy to stop about about 6!)
Shannon


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

I have done exactly what you describe, many times,..........no result........used my whole bunch of theoretical assumptions, then gave the same remedy, same potency, this time perfect result.
Now how do you explain that?
To be fair, other times I did have results without the bunch of theoretical assumptions too.....
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Rochelle
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Seroxat

Post by Rochelle »

Dear Joe,
You've lost me here.
To what post are you referring and what do you mean by the same remedy , same potency?
Thanks
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Like Chris described, took the full case(S), found a good remedy, gave it without any result.
Did then give my Isotherapic "bunch of assumption". Then repeated the first remedy that did not act, in the same potency, this time with success.........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Rochelle
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Rochelle »

Oh right!!! Now I understand. Thanks. What potency do you give your isotherapic remedy and how many do you give?
Rochelle
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

It depended how long the patient did take the drug and how long ago it was stopped, but I used to start with a low 6C then walk my way to 12, 24, 30, 200, 1M up to 10M if needed and if available.
As of now I plan to use my Fibonacci series next time I need to do that.
BTW, while on that subject, does anyone have even a quarter of a tablet of chlorpromazine aka Largactil they could send me, to make a F series please???????
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Rochelle
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Rochelle »

I have friends who work as pharmacists but are also homeopaths that can always get hold of a tablet of anything for me :-) In UK - it is often a case of "not giving up the main profession" and working part time.
Rochelle
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

That would be beautiful if you could send it directly to the Simillimum Pharmacy, 20 Panama Street, PO Box 10889, Wellington, New Zealand, with a few words mentioning to contact me as soon as they receive it.
Thanks a lot!
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
Visit http://drjoesnaturalmedicine.blogspot.com for some articles and comments.


Rochelle
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Re: Seroxat

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I have sent her an email. I don;t know if this exists in UK .
Rochelle
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Chris_Gillen
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Re: Seroxat

Post by Chris_Gillen »

Hello Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.,
As a medical *system* I have not found isopathy to be particularly
effective. As a medical *system* homoeopathy produces sustainable results
more readily when the treatment is not interfered with by non-homoeopathic
and non-supportive therapeutics. I base this on my own experience of
prescribing some isopathics years ago (fresh out of Homoeopathy college
where it had been taught, Murphy-style, as a popular and effective "first
line of attack" strategy). My views are also based on a significant number
of patient reports in which isopathic remedies have already been used by
other practitioners before the patient consults me. It appears to be a very
popular practice in Brisbane, or at least it is being presented as an easily
digestible form of "popular homoeopathy" to the public. However, those
patients and I could see no discernible change in their disease states after
isopathy, let alone positive outcomes! I suspect there was no actual
homoeopathic similitude between the drug effects and the patient's current
symptom-complex, and to be frank, I doubt those practitioners would have
even bothered to search out a drug proving apriori - even if there was a
proving for those drugs. It appears to have been routinist isopathic
prescribing rather than anything remotely homoeopathic. I have no idea why
homoeopathy gives you "no result", so "many times", and isopathy in turn
produces a "perfect result".

To be sure, I have seen isolated incidences where it has produced reasonable
results or at least brought a cessation to worrying symptoms and that alone
has impressed the patient - but they might also say the same about double
mastectomies if they have an overriding fear of cancer, BP medications if
they have a fear of heart attacks, aspirins if they have a low pain
threshhold, electroconvulsive therapy if they have recurring psychotic fears
etc etc. I don't pretend to know how non-homoeopathic therapies produce
those outcomes, nor do I need to! It should be obvious to all and sundry who
frequent Homoeopathy Lists, that the beauty and simplicity of the Law of
Similia means that we don't have to speculate or make assumptions about
hidden causations or hidden interior energetic pathways of the Lifeforce
mechanisms. (And yes, to be sure, it is fun speculating anyway, isn't it...)
We just need to make clear and concise homoeopathic clinical observations
based on the symptomatology expressed by the patient, and then homoeopathy
works at its best. This is what I consider my practical duty of care towards
patients, so that I can assure them that I have their best interests at
heart, and I am delivering good quality homoeopathic treatment.

My cursory view of Rochelle's case description is that since this patient
has abstained from allopathic interference for 3 years and is producing both
strong objective and subjective symptoms, the road should be pretty clear to
make good homoeopathic progress. My experience is that depression states can
moreoften be lifted permanently within 3 to 6 months, or less, using the
basic homoeopathic analytical tools, some counselling and willingness on the
part of the patient to face specific life issues, any necessary dietary
changes, and reliable well-proven remedies - which is a darn sight better
than 8 years on a useless and harmful (now banned) anti-depressant
medication. So, I think it would be a shame if time was wasted prescribing
potentized Seroxat with this patient. She has suffered enough.
That's my opinion. Okay?
Chris Gillen


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