How to Get Intravenous Vitamin C Given to a Hospitalized Patient

[Sheri Nakken]

I don't know.........good luck.........I've
worked in them thar places and they are like a fascist empire.
Sheri
Following is a superb check list extracted from
the information dense Doctor Yourself site . It
is becoming abundantly clear that the so called
experts will continue to subject us to mostly
profitable toxic drugs and medical procedure when
so many simple and safe alternatives are
continually ignored. Dr. Saul's check list is an
indispensable practical guide for dealing with
these self serving authorities. All should read
and use. It is clear that we will have to force
the medical system kicking, screaming and
shouting to do what they will not do on their own...

Chris Gupta
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2 ... atient.htm
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How to Get Intravenous Vitamin C Given to a Hospitalized Patient

Intravenous Vitamin C Checklist

1) Know before you go. It is immeasurably easier
to get what you want if you contract for it
beforehand. Prenuptial agreements, new car deals,
roofing and siding estimates, and hospital care
need to be negotiated in advance. When the tow
truck comes, it is too late to complain about
who’s driving. Same with an ambulance, or a hasty
hospital admission. You have to pre-plan, and here’s how:

2) Get a letter. Yes, a “note from the doctor”
still carries clout. Have you general
practitioner, today if possible, sign a letter
stating that he backs your request for a vitamin
C I.V. drip, 10 grams per 12 hours, should you
(or your designated loved one) require
hospitalization. Have copies made and keep them
handy. Update the letter annually. You now have
your G.P.’s permission. Good start, but not enough.

3) Get some more letters. Obtain a similar letter
form every specialist that you have used, are
using, or may use in the foreseeable future. This
sounds cumbersome, but is no more unmanageable
than most people’s grocery lists. Keep it in
perspective: this is just as important as wearing
a medical alert bracelet or keeping a fresh battery in Grandpa’s pacemaker.

4) Make some calls. Telephone a representative or
two from every hospital within one hundred miles
of your home. Find out which wants your business
the most. When you find a “live one” on the
phone, write down their name and title, and follow up with a letter.

5) Write for your rights. In your letter, ask for
the hospital’s permission to have a vitamin C IV
drip, infusion, push or injection, as well as
oral vitamin C, should you or your designated
family member(s) come in to that hospital. YOU
MUST GET THIS IN WRITING. Now, do NOT say, “I
want that in writing,” because people do not like
that. But if you WRITE to them by US Mail, they
will naturally write back to you. Bingo.

Helpful hint: do NOT correspond by email; you
want a real signature on hospital letterhead.
(And no, don’t ask for that either! It will
happen automatically if you write first.)

You might be wondering, What if they write back,
“No, we won’t.” Hold onto that letter. You can
make a real stink with it should you need to play
hardball in court, and I do NOT mean a handball court.

These actions are much more likely, however:

a) They simply will not write back. OK, so ask
yourself this: What if your credit card company
didn’t respond to your letters? So would you
entrust your life to a hospital that refuses to
even answer their mail? Make a point to go
someplace else. If you live in a rural community
or smaller city, you might be thinking that you
do not have a choice of hospitals. Maybe not for
the first 24 hours in an unexpected circumstance.
But people can be moved. That’s what modern
transportation is for. Famous hospitals get
people from all over. How many people do you know
that live within walking distance of
Sloan-Ketterling, Roswell, the Brigham, or the Mayo Clinic?

b) What is most likely is that the hospital’s
representative will send you a garbage answer,
with a response so noncommittal as to be
unusable. This may mean that your wrote the wrong
person, or wrote the wrong letter. Try this: have
your doctor “write” the letter. The doctor’s
letterhead and signature; your composition. Go
ahead; you can give a professional a rough draft
of what you want said. I had lawyer ask me to do
exactly that when I sought (and succeeded in
getting) a vitamin C IV into my hospitalized
father. I wrote it and faxed it to the attorney;
his staff rewrote it on his stationery and he signed it. It saves time.

Helpful hint: Be sure your (doctor’s) letter clearly REQUESTS A REPLY.

Another Helpful hint: FAX wherever you can to
save time. Always send a back-up copy of the
letter by postal mail. Then, write again to confirm that they received it.

c) It is also quite possible that they will ask
for more information. This could be a genuine
interest, but it is more likely a stall. If you
think Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned, you should
see what medical bureaucrats can do. To cut
through the treacle, you need to understand the
nature of the beast. The first rule of lion
taming is, You have to know more than the lions. Therefore:

6. Know the law. Many states have enacted
legislation that makes it possible for a
physician to provide any natural therapy that a
patient requests without fear of losing his or
her license. If your state has such a law, it
will make it somewhat easier to get a doctor to prescribe a vitamin C IV.

7. Know the power structure. Find out who is in charge.

I have heard doctors say that they’d be happy to
start a megavitamin C IV but the hospital will
not let them. Then, when asked, I have heard the
hospital say that they allow vitamin C IV’s but
the doctors won't do them. To avoid an endless
Catch-22 situation, you have to know the ropes and where everybody stands.

On the doctor side:
Which physician (as opposed to witch doctor) is
in charge? It could be the attending surgeon; it
could be your general practitioner; it could be
the chief resident. One thing is for sure:
someone has the power to prescribe. Go to the
person that can do you the most good (or harm)
and start your negotiations there. If you can
persuade the king, the castle is yours.

On the hospital side:
Which of the administrators has the clout? Talk
to their secretaries (they are the people who
really run things anyway) and you will find out.
It could be that the most influential person for
you may be the hospital’s patient rights advocate
or V. P. for customer service. It might even be
the public relations director. Who knows? You
sure don’t, so remove the veil of anonymity and find out.

On the patient side:
The patient, if conscious, has all the power
because it is his/her body. If a patient insists
loud and long enough, s/he can get almost
anything. Since patients tend to be sick, and
therefore easily slip into becoming
non-combatants, a family member has to get in
there and pitch for them. A highly experienced
nurse told me that she would never leave a family
member in a hospital without a 24-hour-a-day
guard in the form of a friend or family member or
other advocate. That is sound advice from a lady who’s seen it.

Next to the patient, the most powerful family
member is the spouse. After that, it would be
children. You do not have to have power of
attorney to have power, but it helps. If the
patient is unable to speak, act, or think, it may
be essential. Do not wait until the patient is
incapacitated to plan this. Your family needs to
come together (difficult though this may be) and
present a preplanned, unified front to the
medical and administrative people. You may think
I am overstating the case, but I have seen
patients die simply because NO ONE TOOK THE REINS
AND GOT THE VITAMIN C IN THE VEINS. I have seen
vitamin C IV’s halted simply because the patient
was moved to (or from) intensive care. Think that
one over. I have seen vitamin C prescriptions
over-ridden by a nurse or a pharmacist. You would
not think that possible, would you. Well, it is.
There is no nice way to phrase this. Stay on top
of the situation or you will have a premature burial on your hands.

8. Know your recourse. If you are rich, get your
lawyer on the phone. Better yet, bring your
lawyer into the hospital. If you are like the
rest of us, you may simply have to bluff if you
threaten to call your attorney. The purpose here
is to save the life of your loved one, not to
make a buck from a malpractice suit. Personally,
I think malpractice suits are a sign of the most
abject failure on the part of the family, as well
as the medical profession. In the same way that
accident insurance does not prevent accidents but
only pays the costs, so do malpractice
settlements fail to resuscitate a dead family
member. “Death control” is somewhat like birth
control in that you have to act before the event
takes place. But if we push the analogy, we
realize a grim truth: there is no such thing as a
“morning after” pill for rigor mortis, nor can you abort a funeral.

9. Know the facts about vitamin C IV’s. For this,
there is absolutely no alternative to reading up
on the subject. Here is what you will want to begin with:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html
http://www.doctoryourself.com/vitaminc.html
http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html
http://www.doctoryourself.com/biblio_cathcart.html
http://www.doctoryourself.com/naturedoc.html
http://www.doctoryourself.com/hospitals.html

Professionally speaking, I am not really all that
interested in vitamins. I am, however, extremely
interested in saving life. The reading I
referenced above may make all the difference in your case.

10. Know how to settle controversy and avoid the run-around.

Doctors and hospitals are quick to offer rather
bogus reasons why they would deny your request
for a vitamin C IV. Each of these arguments is a
lot of bull, and easily refuted.

Their argument: “We do not have Vitamin C for
intravenous infusion in our pharmacy”
Your response: “So get some. From another
hospital; by Fed Ex, by medevac helicopter. Or,
just make it yourselves. Look: here’s
instructions on how to prepare it, written by a highly experienced physician.

Their argument: “We have never done this before.”
Your response: “Then this is a wonderful
opportunity to learn. I’ve never lost a (insert
family member’s position here) before.”

Their Argument: “The patient is too ill.”
Your response: “That’s why we want the vitamin C IV.”

Their argument: “We might get into trouble if we do this.”
Your response: “You will be in legal trouble for sure if you don’t.”

Their argument: “There is no scientific evidence
that this is safe, effective, appropriate for this case, blah, blah, blah…”

Your response: “Read this.” (This short phrase is
to be spoken as you produce a large stack of
actual medical studies written by medical doctors
who have successfully used vitamin C IV’s. See references mentioned above.)

Their argument: “But we do not have time to read all those papers.”
Your response: “That’s OK. I already have, and
it’s my body (or my father’s, or my mother’s).
Run the vitamin C IV. Start with 10 grams every
12 hours and do not stop it without my written authorization.”

Their argument: “This hospital operates under our
authority, these are our rules, and this is the way it is done.”
Your response: “This is my mother. If you deny
her the treatment the family requests, you will
be sued, and we will win. Do you really want to go to the wall on this one?”

Confrontational? Admittedly, yes. But I have seen
too many people die too soon. Dr. Frederick
Robert Klenner was right when he said, “Some
physicians would stand by and see their patient
die rather than use ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
because in their finite minds it exists only as a vitamin."

Don’t let it happen to your family.

Reprinted from the book DOCTOR YOURSELF,
copyright 2004 and prior years by Andrew Saul,
Number 8 Van Buren Street, Holley, New York 14470 USA Telephone (585) 638-5357

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[JULIE GRIFFITHS]

I very often get Vitamin C IV (over 2 hours) when I go to my doctor on
his suggestion. He's in Germany. They also give me something to make
sure it doesn't breakdown too fast. Must ask what it is next time I am
there. Also it's not uncommon to get a magnesium 'infusion' from a
mainstream doc there if you are feeling under the weather. This I have
heard from many people. One more thing, I had prescribed probiotics on
my bedside table when on an IV antibiotic drip after surgery several
years ago.

Julie

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