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Rudolph Leicester
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Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

Post by Rudolph Leicester »

Thanks Christine. How is your treatment developing, or is it too early to say?
RL


Rudolph Leicester
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Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

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Thanks very much indeed for your very informative reply. Very much appreciated indeed. Louise, my girlfriend, is still taking Thyroxine, but only one a day. Now that I'm starting to feel better, I'm going to read up in the MM the various remedies useful for thyroid issues, including thyroidinum, and take it from there. I'm still trying to persuade her to see a homeopath.
Thanks for all your help.
RL


mary hughes
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Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

Post by mary hughes »

It may be that the dog has worms, that is a direct
consequence of it having fleas usually, it could have
come first and weakened the immune system, or after
and added to the problem.

mary
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Hi Rudolph,

It might account for it but there are too may reasons for weight loss
to assume that is the case.
Fleas also carry flea tapeworm, which commonly infests the intestinal
tract of flea-bitten pets, stealing food. The tapeworm reproduces in
the gut, making egg packets at the end of the "tape", which then
break off and are eliminated. Some versions of flea tapeworm have
motile egg packets that look like little mobile rice grains at or
near the anus. Some are creamy color rather than white. But a better
test for worms is to take a small fecal sample from the dog to the vet.
They look at this under the microscope and compare eggs etc found in
there, with a color photo chart of which parasite eggs look how under
the microscope. This way you can get a positive diagnosis of which
parasites are present if any. It's non-invasive and leads you to what
you need to know. If you then eliminate parasites as a cause of
weight loss, you can go to the next elimination phase. And if you
find the parasite/s you can repertorize accordingly, and either way I
suggest you boost the food with more high protein meat, fish and egg;
and some carotene-containing pumpkin and spinach, well cooked, and
fish oil and extra virgin olive oil, plus rice bran and bifidus or
other dog-appropriate probiotic bacteria (not acidophilus).

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Hi RL,
It could be a cause, thanks to anemia - but so could other things.
Sorry you were laid low, and hope you are much recovered.
A suggestion: Set aside a few "first aid" remedies to try when you
are feeling too low to turn on a computer - though I hope there is
not a "next time". Carbo veg, gels, and some others come to mind -
also Aco 200C for nipping infection in the bud - the idea being
advance planning so as to hopefully not get laid low so badly you can
not help yourself.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Hi Rudolph,

There is lots of research, I'll suggest some places to look for good
research:
General web-searching will not get you good sources!
National Library of Medicine (in USA, which has a good search engine,
and collects research world-wide) has free abstracts of research on
line here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
You can also always find it by googling PubMed
Also for toxicity issues the USA's National Animal Poison Control
Center in Atlanta Georgia, has an inexpensive booklet that describes
toxic plants and in what way they are toxic. (This is the center in
USA for toxic incidents in pets, they have veterinary toxicity
specialists that help vets ion general to handle toxic cases - and
they collect data on cases and publish the results as a list of
toxic, versus slightly toxic versus nontoxic plants.)
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pro_apcc
You can also consult the Merck Veterinary Manual which is free on line:
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp
This too has a good search engine and if you put garlic in it or go
to the anemia area, you will find in the anemia section, a table of
toxic causes of anemia, including the Heinz body anemia caused by
garlic in dogs (and cats).

I suggest you collect together in a file or notebook, some places to
do valid searches for good (not just opinion) information, such as
these. General searches of the internet will give you any number of
invalid opinions instead:-)

You are also invited to join my vethom-friends list at Yahoogroups
which is a group for people studying to be veterinary homeopaths, and
where tutors like myself and others, are present to help students
learn. The archives contain lots of good information there, readily
searchable, and the garlic question for example is addressed (along
with alfalfa etc) in post number 1083 there.

One paragraph of it, as a taste, reads, pertaining to cats and dogs
(but not people):
"An alkaloid, N-propyl disulphide, present in both cultivated and wild
onions, chives, and garlic, affects the enzyme, glucose-6-phosphate
dehydrogenase, in red blood cells that interferes with the hexose
monophosphate pathway. Oxidation of hemoglobin results because there is
either insufficient phosphate dehydrogenase or glutathione to protect
the red blood cells from oxidative injury. The resulting formation of
Heinz bodies within erythrocytes is characteristic of onion poisoning.
(...)"
Marielle Gomez-Kaifer, PhD, Department of Chemistry, University of Miami

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Rudolph,
Just sharing some personal experience with dogs (and cats) and fleas,
what has worked well for all of our cats and dogs, over several
decades, has been simply putting some brewers (or nutritional) yeast on
top of the dry food, and letting them eat it as desired. If you forget
the yeast for more than a day or two the fleas may begin to return, but
other than that we've found it completely effective, and all of our
animals have eaten it happily--and ask for it if I don't replenish
enough, actually.
Best wishes,
Shannon


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Advice on Thyroid issue in people and giving garlic to dogs

Post by Irene de Villiers »

My computer is having mercury retrograde issues it seems..........
It just fed me a bunch of emails from October last year and other
long ago dates, which I mistakenly responded to as if they were current.

Please feel free to delete anything I wrote today!

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


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