Hello Minutus,
Now the positive aspects of Predictive Homoeopathy are mentioned on this
list, I also want to share some points of concern.
First of all, why again another system?
We already have 'Revolutionised Homeopathy', 'Systematic Homoeopathy',
'Inspiring Homeopathy and now also 'Predictive Homoeopathy'.
All the founders of new systems claim they have seen the light, and their
system is superior.
For me it is all very simple, when someone claims good results with their
method, it must somehow be something that can be integrated, and fits in our
theory founded by Hahnemann.
Truth in real healing is in my opinion universal.
But I always have much respect for those 'thinker', who are critical to the
bad results of Homoepathy as practised by many nowadays, and when we are
wise we can learn from their solutions.
What I don't like Is that Dr. Vijayakar claims to have found a new way of
selecting the simillimum, his 'Constitutional genetic simillimum'
This is the remedy that covers the symptoms, the innate features and
dominating miasm of the patient.
He says:"The Constitutional genetic simillimum was indirectly advocated by
Dr. Hahnemann for eliciting ideal cures, through series of aphorism." (9, 7,
15).
Indirectly?
What about Aphorisme 5?!
For the selection of the 'Constitutional genetic simillimum' also fixed
characteristics (colour of hair etc) are used.
Dr. Vijayakar says: "Never aspect a "Thuja, Calc c or Bar c to have thick
hair" He uses this kind of things to differentiate between remedies.
I have a problem with that, I see those kind of characteristics only at the
best, as confirmations of the chosen remedy (since they don't always have a
direct connection with the disease).
The constitutional remedy of course very important in homoeopathic
treatment, but there are more possible strategies.
Dr. Vijayakar gives the impression that all other kind of prescriptions
always lead to suppression.
I don't see how a correct miasmatic layer prescription (where the innate
individual features to a lesser degree have influence) can lead to
suppression.
The use of the miasms in his system is not very clear to me, it seem only to
be used as a confirmation for the constitutional remedy.
Dr. Vijayakar has no list of miasmatic remedies.
I asked Dr. Pravin Jain about this and he replied:
"Each remedy has all the three miasms, and it depends on the dominant miasm
which is important for a remedy."
Dr. Vijayakar rejects other miasm than psora, sycose and syphilis.
Dr. Vijayakar also has his own system of prescribing acute remedies, (there
is nothing wrong with his method, but the number of remedies is very
limited). This is in contradiction to the rest, because this shows an
acceptation of '(acute) layers'.
Further Dr. Vijayakar thinks his method is superior to the 'Mind only
method' because this in his opinion ignores the body. Here he demonstrates
he does not understand, that this method also includes the constitutional
base of disease.
Just like what I said in a previous mail about the method of Sehgal, is also
true for this method.
Be open and try to understand the new techniques en insights offered, (keep
the good parts) but be critical to the 'explanations' and limitations by
those new methods.
Kind regards, Piet
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Dear Piet
I am grateful to the members of this group for bringing Predictive
Homoeopathy to my attention. I have perused the contents of Volume One in
spare moments.
I am glad that Dr Vijayakar is trying to make further sense of the direction
of cure. For instance, let us say a young patient comes with a mild arthritic
knee and the homoeopath prescribes...What if the arthritis is much better but
our poor patient develops considerable psoriasis? Hering's so-called Law
would be very unclear on this. It would probably indicate cure is on the way.
However, any experienced homoeopath would know that psoriasis is a
tri-miasmatic condition and would be very uneasy indeed. He/She would be VERY
worried. Dr Vijayakar's scheme explains the situation to some extent.
However, I am suspicious of Dr Vijayakar. I only have Volume One to hand at
present. But why no cured cases?? We only have his ignorant admitted earlier
disasters at the front. As you say Piet, there is absolutely NO evidence of
any proper knowledge of Materia Medica! The book is 80 pages, poorly bound
and the first 16 pages are just acknowledgements. There is a lot of wasted
space. And to add insult to injury the book sells to westerners for 30 US
Dollars! Is this guy pulling a fast one? Has anybody met him? What are his
cases like? How busy is he? I must say that I am intrigued......Does anybody
know anybody that has sat in on his clinic? Wish I hadn't sold out of Volume
2!
Best regards,
Stewart McOwan
Stewart McOwan MARH
Minerva Homoeopathic Centre
173 Fulham Palace Road
Hammersmith
London
W6 8QT
Tel 0207 385 3512
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I am grateful to the members of this group for bringing Predictive
Homoeopathy to my attention. I have perused the contents of Volume One in
spare moments.
I am glad that Dr Vijayakar is trying to make further sense of the direction
of cure. For instance, let us say a young patient comes with a mild arthritic
knee and the homoeopath prescribes...What if the arthritis is much better but
our poor patient develops considerable psoriasis? Hering's so-called Law
would be very unclear on this. It would probably indicate cure is on the way.
However, any experienced homoeopath would know that psoriasis is a
tri-miasmatic condition and would be very uneasy indeed. He/She would be VERY
worried. Dr Vijayakar's scheme explains the situation to some extent.
However, I am suspicious of Dr Vijayakar. I only have Volume One to hand at
present. But why no cured cases?? We only have his ignorant admitted earlier
disasters at the front. As you say Piet, there is absolutely NO evidence of
any proper knowledge of Materia Medica! The book is 80 pages, poorly bound
and the first 16 pages are just acknowledgements. There is a lot of wasted
space. And to add insult to injury the book sells to westerners for 30 US
Dollars! Is this guy pulling a fast one? Has anybody met him? What are his
cases like? How busy is he? I must say that I am intrigued......Does anybody
know anybody that has sat in on his clinic? Wish I hadn't sold out of Volume
2!
Best regards,
Stewart McOwan
Stewart McOwan MARH
Minerva Homoeopathic Centre
173 Fulham Palace Road
Hammersmith
London
W6 8QT
Tel 0207 385 3512
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Re: Predictive homoeopathy- points of concern
Dear Stewart,
I am somewhat confused by your post. I have Parts one and two of Dr.
Vijayakar's books and Part One, Theory of Suppression has a chapter of cured
cases (chapter 7). According to Dr. V's work, the homeopath would realize
that if a psoric or sycotic arthritis that improves and moves to a
syco/syphilitic deep dermal condition e.g. psoriasis that the disease is
moving to a more destructive miasm thus the wrong direction. However, not
all psoriasis is trimiasmatic. Each case must be understood on its own.
As to your other concerns, I have met Dr. Vijayaker, studied with his school
and faculty and sat in his clinic. He sees around 150 patients per 12 hour
day. Most, of course, are follow ups. I saw many severe pathologies in the
process of cure. All of his faculty members, many of which had followed
other "gurus" of homeopathy, delusionists, etc. have said explicitly that
they were unsuccessful with any of those techniques in curing cancer, etc.
Since working with Dr. V's approach, they have had much greater success.
The main reason Dr. V. is a relatively unknown quantity is that he chooses
not to be a "Guru" as many other Indian homeopaths. He is not traveling the
world charging lots of money for conferences to make people ooh and aah at
his brilliance. He teaches mostly in India so that his patients and clinic
are not left hanging. Those that have attended his workshops consider his
cures "miraculous". He show many cured cases of serious pathology from
psoriasis universalis, to coma, to cancer, to vitiligo. I have never seen
other homeopaths present so many successes in severe pathology. His
knowledge of physiology and life sciences is better than probably any living
homeopath.
Dr. Vijayakar is humble and he is not into making money. The information in
his books is worth more than the cost. It is certainly more important
information than another bunch of delusions or pseudo provings and those
books are much more expensive.
The school has just finalized their curriculum for the three week workshop
they give in January. The first week is seven full days of classroom work.
The subsequent two weeks are rotating through several clinics in Mumbai. The
tuition, when I attended in 2001 which included the first week stay in a
resort hotel with meals was only $750 US. Imagine 3 weeks of education, one
week in a hotel including meals for so little cost. I can't attend a
conference by any of the "leading" homeopaths for less than $100 per day,
typically. Most of whom I think are not as good at prescribing as their
reputation would lead you to believe.
If anyone is interested in the course or other information on the school and
to see some cured cases, the web site is www.predictivehomeopathy.com. The
director of the school is Dr. Anita Salunkhe (anita_salunkhe@hotmail.com)
She is always willing to communicate with homeopaths and I am sure would
answer your questions.
In closing, I would let you know that Dr. V is working on a book containing
just cured cases of severe pathology. Unfortunately, between his clinic, his
family and his teaching, there is little time to work on it. I have been
waiting anxiously to see it and I can let you know when it arrives.
be well
Russell Swift, dvm
ps I have a few copies of the books and I will happily sell them for $25 for
the set.
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I am somewhat confused by your post. I have Parts one and two of Dr.
Vijayakar's books and Part One, Theory of Suppression has a chapter of cured
cases (chapter 7). According to Dr. V's work, the homeopath would realize
that if a psoric or sycotic arthritis that improves and moves to a
syco/syphilitic deep dermal condition e.g. psoriasis that the disease is
moving to a more destructive miasm thus the wrong direction. However, not
all psoriasis is trimiasmatic. Each case must be understood on its own.
As to your other concerns, I have met Dr. Vijayaker, studied with his school
and faculty and sat in his clinic. He sees around 150 patients per 12 hour
day. Most, of course, are follow ups. I saw many severe pathologies in the
process of cure. All of his faculty members, many of which had followed
other "gurus" of homeopathy, delusionists, etc. have said explicitly that
they were unsuccessful with any of those techniques in curing cancer, etc.
Since working with Dr. V's approach, they have had much greater success.
The main reason Dr. V. is a relatively unknown quantity is that he chooses
not to be a "Guru" as many other Indian homeopaths. He is not traveling the
world charging lots of money for conferences to make people ooh and aah at
his brilliance. He teaches mostly in India so that his patients and clinic
are not left hanging. Those that have attended his workshops consider his
cures "miraculous". He show many cured cases of serious pathology from
psoriasis universalis, to coma, to cancer, to vitiligo. I have never seen
other homeopaths present so many successes in severe pathology. His
knowledge of physiology and life sciences is better than probably any living
homeopath.
Dr. Vijayakar is humble and he is not into making money. The information in
his books is worth more than the cost. It is certainly more important
information than another bunch of delusions or pseudo provings and those
books are much more expensive.
The school has just finalized their curriculum for the three week workshop
they give in January. The first week is seven full days of classroom work.
The subsequent two weeks are rotating through several clinics in Mumbai. The
tuition, when I attended in 2001 which included the first week stay in a
resort hotel with meals was only $750 US. Imagine 3 weeks of education, one
week in a hotel including meals for so little cost. I can't attend a
conference by any of the "leading" homeopaths for less than $100 per day,
typically. Most of whom I think are not as good at prescribing as their
reputation would lead you to believe.
If anyone is interested in the course or other information on the school and
to see some cured cases, the web site is www.predictivehomeopathy.com. The
director of the school is Dr. Anita Salunkhe (anita_salunkhe@hotmail.com)
She is always willing to communicate with homeopaths and I am sure would
answer your questions.
In closing, I would let you know that Dr. V is working on a book containing
just cured cases of severe pathology. Unfortunately, between his clinic, his
family and his teaching, there is little time to work on it. I have been
waiting anxiously to see it and I can let you know when it arrives.
be well
Russell Swift, dvm
ps I have a few copies of the books and I will happily sell them for $25 for
the set.
and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations
regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any
document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this
website and/or email postings for any purpose. The entire risk arising out
of their use remains with the recipient. In no event shall the minutus site
or its individual members be liable for any direct, consequential,
incidental, special, punitive or other damages whatsoever and howsoever
caused.
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Dear Dr Swift,
Your copy of Predictive Homoeopathy may have cured cases but mine certainly
does not. My Chapter Seven is entitled 'Science of Genetic Constitutional
Similimum.' It comprises of three very ungrammatical pages and not a case in
sight. Which edition is yours? Mine is the Second Revised Edition of 2000.
I think I have every right to be sceptical of an author who states in his
conclusion that:
"The sequences occuring during 'cure' are a mathematical certainty. All
homoeopaths should leave their 'Extremism' which leads to 'Unsure' and
'Unpredictable' results and opt for 'Totalistic' homoeopathy, by which
results are Sure, Predictable and a Mathematical Certainty. This will be the
First Step Toward Perfection of Homoeopathy."
I am reiterating the very last lines of the book complete with ghastly
grammar, spelling mistakes, and inappropriate capital letters.
Cure a 'mathematical certainty'???????? Is this really a 'humble' man?
And what is he treating? Robots? Patients are human beings! They make their
own choices and mistakes!
I AM though VERY grateful though for your information. Thank you for taking
the time to give details. If I am a little critical please bear in mind that
I encounter many self-promotional people who exaggerate their successes. I am
not saying that such people are frauds as there are many such people who
still successfully treat cancers and severe pathologies but I am saying that
they make unduly extreme claims They massively overstate their success rates
and I find this irritating. I don't want to give names out in a public forum
for obvious reasons.
Homoeopaths are getting fed up with 'infallible' methods! Every year another
guy comes around. What encourages me is that every time fewer people turn up
for the seminars - People are getting more sceptical - At least in England.
Regards,
Stewart McOwan
Stewart McOwan MARH
Minerva Homoeopathic Centre
173 Fulham Palace Road
Hammersmith
London W6 8QT
Tel 020 7385 3512
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Your copy of Predictive Homoeopathy may have cured cases but mine certainly
does not. My Chapter Seven is entitled 'Science of Genetic Constitutional
Similimum.' It comprises of three very ungrammatical pages and not a case in
sight. Which edition is yours? Mine is the Second Revised Edition of 2000.
I think I have every right to be sceptical of an author who states in his
conclusion that:
"The sequences occuring during 'cure' are a mathematical certainty. All
homoeopaths should leave their 'Extremism' which leads to 'Unsure' and
'Unpredictable' results and opt for 'Totalistic' homoeopathy, by which
results are Sure, Predictable and a Mathematical Certainty. This will be the
First Step Toward Perfection of Homoeopathy."
I am reiterating the very last lines of the book complete with ghastly
grammar, spelling mistakes, and inappropriate capital letters.
Cure a 'mathematical certainty'???????? Is this really a 'humble' man?
And what is he treating? Robots? Patients are human beings! They make their
own choices and mistakes!
I AM though VERY grateful though for your information. Thank you for taking
the time to give details. If I am a little critical please bear in mind that
I encounter many self-promotional people who exaggerate their successes. I am
not saying that such people are frauds as there are many such people who
still successfully treat cancers and severe pathologies but I am saying that
they make unduly extreme claims They massively overstate their success rates
and I find this irritating. I don't want to give names out in a public forum
for obvious reasons.
Homoeopaths are getting fed up with 'infallible' methods! Every year another
guy comes around. What encourages me is that every time fewer people turn up
for the seminars - People are getting more sceptical - At least in England.
Regards,
Stewart McOwan
Stewart McOwan MARH
Minerva Homoeopathic Centre
173 Fulham Palace Road
Hammersmith
London W6 8QT
Tel 020 7385 3512
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Piet wrote:
our
Piet, I think your last statement is absolutely right.
And for me it is very simple too. The reason all these founders of new
systems claim to have seen the light is that they have! And, what's more,
their system *is* superior ... for them. They've found a way of practicing
homeopathy that is uniquely right for them: the approach that fits with
every other aspect of *who they are* and that effectively actualises their
healing abilities to the maximum. The "simillimum method", if you like! The
error is in mistaking what is individual for something that is common - that
what works for them will work for everyone (though interestingly, that error
seems to be more commonly made by both the supporters and detractors of the
methods than the founders of the methods themselves).
What I don't understand is how, as homeopaths, we can happily work with the
concept of what is common and what is individual in disease, and then
totally ignore what is individual in healing!! Hahnemann found a good few of
the real truths in healing, which is why his method alone can be emulated
with reasonable success. But he didn't find them all. This, IMO, is the most
important one he missed. He certainly practiced it, but he didn't succeed in
identifying it.
Regards
Wendy
our
Piet, I think your last statement is absolutely right.
And for me it is very simple too. The reason all these founders of new
systems claim to have seen the light is that they have! And, what's more,
their system *is* superior ... for them. They've found a way of practicing
homeopathy that is uniquely right for them: the approach that fits with
every other aspect of *who they are* and that effectively actualises their
healing abilities to the maximum. The "simillimum method", if you like! The
error is in mistaking what is individual for something that is common - that
what works for them will work for everyone (though interestingly, that error
seems to be more commonly made by both the supporters and detractors of the
methods than the founders of the methods themselves).
What I don't understand is how, as homeopaths, we can happily work with the
concept of what is common and what is individual in disease, and then
totally ignore what is individual in healing!! Hahnemann found a good few of
the real truths in healing, which is why his method alone can be emulated
with reasonable success. But he didn't find them all. This, IMO, is the most
important one he missed. He certainly practiced it, but he didn't succeed in
identifying it.
Regards
Wendy
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Stewart,
I have the 3rd edition. I, too, am not so excited about the grammar, etc. I
hope to have the opportunity to proof read future publications for the
school. Please remember, they do not speak English as a first tongue and it
is not a "Western" English, anyway. I think you are misunderstanding what
Dr. V. is saying about mathematical certainty (which by the way has been
said by other homeopaths including Andre Saine, I believe.) What he is
saying is that homeopathy is like mathematics in that if the correct remedy
is given, the outcome is predictable i.e. in which direction the disease
will move, etc. He does not claim to cure every case, although I know a
homeopath that has spent months sitting in his clinic and she estimates he
hits over 50% on the first consult. As a matter of fact, he talks about
compensatory cures (Chap. 4) in his book. Those are cases in which the
patient "settles" at a level of pathology less life threatening than the
original and cannot get any better. For example, a cancer patient being
cured of cancer but ending up with a less life threatening condition such as
mild diabetes.
While humans are not robots, there is a tremendous genetic constancy from
person to person and in general our physiology is essentially identical. The
relatively few genes that make us individuals account for the various
remedies we need. However, because of the basic similarity, the curative
process will move in a similar direction.
If he were as egotistical as many of the homeopaths teaching today (to
remain unnamed), he would be traveling, teaching and charging a lot of money
for consultations - which he does not. You and I know many "famous"
homeopaths charging hundreds of dollars (US) for a visit.
I am very skeptical recently of most teachers especially those with "new"
approaches. I think the proof of the pudding is in the eating and most of
the teachers I have seen make a pretty lousy pudding. I don't blame you for
raising the questions you have raised. I just hope I have been able to allay
your fears, at least a little.
I would suggest you contact the school or Dr. Anita and mention your
concerns about your edition of the book. I would not be surprised if they
would send you an updated edition.
be well and best regards
russell swift, dvm
I have the 3rd edition. I, too, am not so excited about the grammar, etc. I
hope to have the opportunity to proof read future publications for the
school. Please remember, they do not speak English as a first tongue and it
is not a "Western" English, anyway. I think you are misunderstanding what
Dr. V. is saying about mathematical certainty (which by the way has been
said by other homeopaths including Andre Saine, I believe.) What he is
saying is that homeopathy is like mathematics in that if the correct remedy
is given, the outcome is predictable i.e. in which direction the disease
will move, etc. He does not claim to cure every case, although I know a
homeopath that has spent months sitting in his clinic and she estimates he
hits over 50% on the first consult. As a matter of fact, he talks about
compensatory cures (Chap. 4) in his book. Those are cases in which the
patient "settles" at a level of pathology less life threatening than the
original and cannot get any better. For example, a cancer patient being
cured of cancer but ending up with a less life threatening condition such as
mild diabetes.
While humans are not robots, there is a tremendous genetic constancy from
person to person and in general our physiology is essentially identical. The
relatively few genes that make us individuals account for the various
remedies we need. However, because of the basic similarity, the curative
process will move in a similar direction.
If he were as egotistical as many of the homeopaths teaching today (to
remain unnamed), he would be traveling, teaching and charging a lot of money
for consultations - which he does not. You and I know many "famous"
homeopaths charging hundreds of dollars (US) for a visit.
I am very skeptical recently of most teachers especially those with "new"
approaches. I think the proof of the pudding is in the eating and most of
the teachers I have seen make a pretty lousy pudding. I don't blame you for
raising the questions you have raised. I just hope I have been able to allay
your fears, at least a little.
I would suggest you contact the school or Dr. Anita and mention your
concerns about your edition of the book. I would not be surprised if they
would send you an updated edition.
be well and best regards
russell swift, dvm