cat problem with back and stool
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
hi all,
once again i need some advice on my poor furball.
she had some episodes of seizure last friday and apparently
twisted her spine badly. she has not been able to move since.
at first there was such sensitivitiy all over her body. any place
on her back sent pain radiating if touched. she chose to just
lie pretty motionless.
i had to slightly lift her upper body so she could drink or eat.
her eating was minimal as it seemed to exhaust her to make
this effort. it was the same with water. she would drink but it
was clear that the effort was tiring.
with a bit of encouragement; ie, massage over the bladder
and ureter area she could pass urine. stool has been a
problem. yesterday she passed 3 little pieces over a few
hours of time. she is obviously needing to do this but cant
muster the muscle power to push.
i spoke with an animal communicator on saturday who confirmed
my perceptions that she had injured her back and was sufferring
from burning, electric like pain that radiated down her limbs. further,
she had pain from the occiput to mastoids, which also impacted
her comfort in eating.
i started her on hyper 200c on saturday. it definitely calmed the
nerve pain but seemed to work paliatively--up to 5-6 hours and then
she began to show pain/discomfort. after a couple of days with the
hyper 200c i added a dose of ars 30c since this remedy has a long
list of pain in different parts of the back as well as the burning pain.
she was beginning to get irritable when touched.
by tuesday afternoon she was much calmer and not as reactive
when being touched. however, it was clear that she was in discomfort
due to not being able to pass stool and i think that was impacting her
ability to pass urine. obviously this becomes a great concern.
i also actually used a bit of essential oil on the tips of her ears to
keep her relaxed.
i was able to get an appointment yesterday with a vet who does chiropractic work
on animals. i am just beginning to calm down from that experience. my cat
was very stressed by the trip over there--almost an hour in the car. he took
one look at the cat and said she had turned blue and wanted to immediately
euthanize her. so that was the first screw up on his part. he was looking at her
eye which is missing the lens and is an opaque bluish/white. she is blind and her
other eye's pupil is always dilated. if he had read his record on her from last
january, he would have noted that she was blind then. and if he stopped his
aggressive prejudgements, he would not have made that mistake. when i pushed back on him
about his perceptions he made an excuse about how he cares for animals. then
he jumped on the idea that this cat had failing organs. i told him i only wanted him
to check her back and do an adjustment. he actually refused unless i spent money
on a blood work up. he just had to have control. i finally agreed although i knew this
was useless. but she really needed an adjustment. when he came back with the
results, he was very surprised telling me that her organs were in good shape but
she had some infection in her system--someplace, maybe from a bad molar but
he still refused to adjust her back. he only wanted her on antibiotics and hospitalization
for several days. was he absolutely nuts? yes. i told him my finances were very
minimal right now but he didn't listen to anything i said. i was so angry. he would not
even examine her back to confirm the areas of problem he refused to talk with me
about problems to deal with due to this; ie, how to help her eliminate when she
couldn't hold herself up and push. he wanted me to give antibiotics at random.
to get him off the topic and try to get him focused on the back problem, i agreed to
take a written prescription that i would think about getting filled. he made up a bottle
and wanted to charge me $31 for it and i refused to take it. i am so angry that i
could drive back over there and tear up his arrogant face!!!!! i had to make an
issue about even getting a copy of the blood test results. his whole focus was so
classically allopathic--infection, drugs, hospitalization and big dollars for him. he
was absolutely demanding to be the sole authority. he must have called me
'dear' at least 3x before i told him i wasn't. pure classic patriarchal, sexist manipulation
designed to belittle me so he could be the only authority. sorry about the rant.
so here i am this morning looking at my poor furball. she is very calm. i am able
to pick her up without her reacting with great pain (there is still some pain, particularly
around the lower part of the spine. i can manipulate her front legs without pain and
if i put her in position she can hold her upper body in place to eat a bit before it gets
too tiring for her to hold herself up. i think the arsenicum has had a big effect on her
but am not sure about its long term healing effect on the spine. the hypericum seems
paliative but may have long term healing of any nerve damage from the seizures.
what i need is to figure out how to help unlock the twist in her cervical bones and
lower spine. the coccyx area seems tender. i think she also damaged the muscles
or ligaments in the legs close to the spine since there is pain when touched with
some pressure. she is able to contract her legs if i hold her up when she tries to
eliminate. so there does not seem to be paralysis, but just pain if she tries to
put pressure on them.
is it reasonable to create a loose stool to help clean her bowels? are there other
remedies or processes i can try to help straighten her spine. i do know homeopathy
is capable of correcting bone misalignments as this has happened to me and i have
been able to effect this with one other person. however, this situation seems more
extreme. advice/opinions definitely appreciated.
tanya
tamarque@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
once again i need some advice on my poor furball.
she had some episodes of seizure last friday and apparently
twisted her spine badly. she has not been able to move since.
at first there was such sensitivitiy all over her body. any place
on her back sent pain radiating if touched. she chose to just
lie pretty motionless.
i had to slightly lift her upper body so she could drink or eat.
her eating was minimal as it seemed to exhaust her to make
this effort. it was the same with water. she would drink but it
was clear that the effort was tiring.
with a bit of encouragement; ie, massage over the bladder
and ureter area she could pass urine. stool has been a
problem. yesterday she passed 3 little pieces over a few
hours of time. she is obviously needing to do this but cant
muster the muscle power to push.
i spoke with an animal communicator on saturday who confirmed
my perceptions that she had injured her back and was sufferring
from burning, electric like pain that radiated down her limbs. further,
she had pain from the occiput to mastoids, which also impacted
her comfort in eating.
i started her on hyper 200c on saturday. it definitely calmed the
nerve pain but seemed to work paliatively--up to 5-6 hours and then
she began to show pain/discomfort. after a couple of days with the
hyper 200c i added a dose of ars 30c since this remedy has a long
list of pain in different parts of the back as well as the burning pain.
she was beginning to get irritable when touched.
by tuesday afternoon she was much calmer and not as reactive
when being touched. however, it was clear that she was in discomfort
due to not being able to pass stool and i think that was impacting her
ability to pass urine. obviously this becomes a great concern.
i also actually used a bit of essential oil on the tips of her ears to
keep her relaxed.
i was able to get an appointment yesterday with a vet who does chiropractic work
on animals. i am just beginning to calm down from that experience. my cat
was very stressed by the trip over there--almost an hour in the car. he took
one look at the cat and said she had turned blue and wanted to immediately
euthanize her. so that was the first screw up on his part. he was looking at her
eye which is missing the lens and is an opaque bluish/white. she is blind and her
other eye's pupil is always dilated. if he had read his record on her from last
january, he would have noted that she was blind then. and if he stopped his
aggressive prejudgements, he would not have made that mistake. when i pushed back on him
about his perceptions he made an excuse about how he cares for animals. then
he jumped on the idea that this cat had failing organs. i told him i only wanted him
to check her back and do an adjustment. he actually refused unless i spent money
on a blood work up. he just had to have control. i finally agreed although i knew this
was useless. but she really needed an adjustment. when he came back with the
results, he was very surprised telling me that her organs were in good shape but
she had some infection in her system--someplace, maybe from a bad molar but
he still refused to adjust her back. he only wanted her on antibiotics and hospitalization
for several days. was he absolutely nuts? yes. i told him my finances were very
minimal right now but he didn't listen to anything i said. i was so angry. he would not
even examine her back to confirm the areas of problem he refused to talk with me
about problems to deal with due to this; ie, how to help her eliminate when she
couldn't hold herself up and push. he wanted me to give antibiotics at random.
to get him off the topic and try to get him focused on the back problem, i agreed to
take a written prescription that i would think about getting filled. he made up a bottle
and wanted to charge me $31 for it and i refused to take it. i am so angry that i
could drive back over there and tear up his arrogant face!!!!! i had to make an
issue about even getting a copy of the blood test results. his whole focus was so
classically allopathic--infection, drugs, hospitalization and big dollars for him. he
was absolutely demanding to be the sole authority. he must have called me
'dear' at least 3x before i told him i wasn't. pure classic patriarchal, sexist manipulation
designed to belittle me so he could be the only authority. sorry about the rant.
so here i am this morning looking at my poor furball. she is very calm. i am able
to pick her up without her reacting with great pain (there is still some pain, particularly
around the lower part of the spine. i can manipulate her front legs without pain and
if i put her in position she can hold her upper body in place to eat a bit before it gets
too tiring for her to hold herself up. i think the arsenicum has had a big effect on her
but am not sure about its long term healing effect on the spine. the hypericum seems
paliative but may have long term healing of any nerve damage from the seizures.
what i need is to figure out how to help unlock the twist in her cervical bones and
lower spine. the coccyx area seems tender. i think she also damaged the muscles
or ligaments in the legs close to the spine since there is pain when touched with
some pressure. she is able to contract her legs if i hold her up when she tries to
eliminate. so there does not seem to be paralysis, but just pain if she tries to
put pressure on them.
is it reasonable to create a loose stool to help clean her bowels? are there other
remedies or processes i can try to help straighten her spine. i do know homeopathy
is capable of correcting bone misalignments as this has happened to me and i have
been able to effect this with one other person. however, this situation seems more
extreme. advice/opinions definitely appreciated.
tanya
tamarque@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
Hi Tanya,
Here's a rubric which possibly adds another level of support to your
arsenicum. Looking thru sub-rubrics of torticollis (re the "twist in
her cervical bones") I found:
Neck; TORTICOLLIS; CONVULSIONS or paralysis, from (3) : ars., Caust.,
Hyos.
So maybe you're on a more curative track than you think you are (time
will tell)??
Rats, now it occurs to me to wonder, does that mean "torticollis from
convulsions" or "convulsions from torticollis"... Well--
Good luck!
Shannon
Here's a rubric which possibly adds another level of support to your
arsenicum. Looking thru sub-rubrics of torticollis (re the "twist in
her cervical bones") I found:
Neck; TORTICOLLIS; CONVULSIONS or paralysis, from (3) : ars., Caust.,
Hyos.
So maybe you're on a more curative track than you think you are (time
will tell)??
Rats, now it occurs to me to wonder, does that mean "torticollis from
convulsions" or "convulsions from torticollis"... Well--
Good luck!
Shannon
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
shannon
what book was this in? i can't find the rubric
looks interesting what you found.
i must let you know that i have been saying my good byes to her.
you know this cat transitioned about 13 months ago and returned to me
when i called her back. so i have been given a great gift.
it was interesting with the arsenicum. although it was only
a 30c, i think it may have given her the impetus to let go.
i am getting a different response from her and have been
making peace with myself that i may not be able to effect
the kind of healing i would like. but i am still trying--such
a never say die person.
tanya
what book was this in? i can't find the rubric
looks interesting what you found.
i must let you know that i have been saying my good byes to her.
you know this cat transitioned about 13 months ago and returned to me
when i called her back. so i have been given a great gift.
it was interesting with the arsenicum. although it was only
a 30c, i think it may have given her the impetus to let go.
i am getting a different response from her and have been
making peace with myself that i may not be able to effect
the kind of healing i would like. but i am still trying--such
a never say die person.
tanya
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
Tanya --
If there is no paralysis, what you are describing throughout is pain <<<< motion, which makes me wonder about Bryonia. Worth a try??
If the Hyper palliated for a while, obviously it's not right on, but it means that healing, at least to the extent shown with the Hyper, is possible -- hopefully curatively rather than palliatively. Do you have the option of changing vets? That doesn't sound like an experience I'd want to tolerate from a so-called health provider with whom I was working!
Rosemary
If there is no paralysis, what you are describing throughout is pain <<<< motion, which makes me wonder about Bryonia. Worth a try??
If the Hyper palliated for a while, obviously it's not right on, but it means that healing, at least to the extent shown with the Hyper, is possible -- hopefully curatively rather than palliatively. Do you have the option of changing vets? That doesn't sound like an experience I'd want to tolerate from a so-called health provider with whom I was working!
Rosemary
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
Ah, tough spot...
The rubric is in Complete 2008, ascribed to Boenninghausen. (Caust and
Hyos are the only other two in that rubric, also ascribed to him.)
Hugs!!
The rubric is in Complete 2008, ascribed to Boenninghausen. (Caust and
Hyos are the only other two in that rubric, also ascribed to him.)
Hugs!!
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
hi rosemary,
that vet experience was horrid, but so typical that while i can
find another vet, i don't expect anything different. it took a very
long time to find a chiropractic vet in the region. there is another
one about 35 miles away but i am so reluctant to travel the cat
again. i think it was very stressful to her. as i wrote back to
shannon, the arsenicum may have given my cat permission to
begin to leave. if that is her choice, i wouldn't want to stress her
any more.
i did think about bryonia, quite a bit ,but it doesnt show up high on
the reporatorization. she is not sensitive at all to touch right now.
so it was either the hyper or the arsenicum that facilitated that.
but she is not able to really effect her own motion now and is
limp. i am considering giving her more arsenicum give her a high
potency. i do have some ars 200c on hand. although i
am also considering carbo veg considering her 'wiped out
state.' she is lying here, pretty quietly. every once in awhile
there is some muscular movement, like a mini-stretch or an
abreviated twitch (which she was wont to do prior to this epidode).
there is some effort in her throat. i think she may have a laryngitis
now (since yesterday) and aconite shows up strongly for early
onset. there has been a slight gasp on occasion which is
typical of laryngitis in cats according to McCleod.
but i am thinking about bryonia still and a couple of others. it is
so hard to know exactly what to go for first.
tanya
that vet experience was horrid, but so typical that while i can
find another vet, i don't expect anything different. it took a very
long time to find a chiropractic vet in the region. there is another
one about 35 miles away but i am so reluctant to travel the cat
again. i think it was very stressful to her. as i wrote back to
shannon, the arsenicum may have given my cat permission to
begin to leave. if that is her choice, i wouldn't want to stress her
any more.
i did think about bryonia, quite a bit ,but it doesnt show up high on
the reporatorization. she is not sensitive at all to touch right now.
so it was either the hyper or the arsenicum that facilitated that.
but she is not able to really effect her own motion now and is
limp. i am considering giving her more arsenicum give her a high
potency. i do have some ars 200c on hand. although i
am also considering carbo veg considering her 'wiped out
state.' she is lying here, pretty quietly. every once in awhile
there is some muscular movement, like a mini-stretch or an
abreviated twitch (which she was wont to do prior to this epidode).
there is some effort in her throat. i think she may have a laryngitis
now (since yesterday) and aconite shows up strongly for early
onset. there has been a slight gasp on occasion which is
typical of laryngitis in cats according to McCleod.
but i am thinking about bryonia still and a couple of others. it is
so hard to know exactly what to go for first.
tanya
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
i would read this as torticollis from convulsions or paralysis
tanya
tanya
Re: cat problem with back and stool
Tanya,
I would try Ruta (200c wet dose preferred), if the cat still has some
vital force left.
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Re: cat problem with back and stool
Tanya,
Some years ago I treated my Lab for an SCI with developing bowel and bladder paralysis, which is what seems to be happening to your cat. Following Dr. Ramakrishnan's protocol, I gave him Causticum 200c in hourly doses (up to six doses a day). I started in the evening and managed to get in 4-5 doses before I had to go to bed. In the middle of the night, I could hear him scratching at his bedding, and then I knew he'd be all right. The next day I gave him a few more doses of Caust. He urinated and defecated that morning and recovered uneventfully.
He'd been unable to poop or pee for 48 hours when I started treatment.
Peace,
Dale
Some years ago I treated my Lab for an SCI with developing bowel and bladder paralysis, which is what seems to be happening to your cat. Following Dr. Ramakrishnan's protocol, I gave him Causticum 200c in hourly doses (up to six doses a day). I started in the evening and managed to get in 4-5 doses before I had to go to bed. In the middle of the night, I could hear him scratching at his bedding, and then I knew he'd be all right. The next day I gave him a few more doses of Caust. He urinated and defecated that morning and recovered uneventfully.
He'd been unable to poop or pee for 48 hours when I started treatment.
Peace,
Dale