Can a Naturopathic be a homeopath?

[Elizabeth Brandegee]

You're very right Shannon. I am in WA also and know many good
homeopaths who are also ND's. The nice thing is people can get it
covered under many insurance policies. However, ND's that choose to
do classical homeopathy have had a lot of extra training & study
beyond their ND and end up doing much less naturopathy, as there is
simply not enough time in proportion to the constitutional work being
done.
It is sadly very confused here, as we are home to a large naturopathic
school with 'not great' homeopathic training and the general public
believes they have had homeopathy treatment when it was an acute or
altered version.
You can ask that naturopath how many hours they have had in classical
study. A minimum of 400 hours, plus clinical experience and further
seminar training would be appropriate. I don't know if anyone else
already said this, but also check whether they do the standard
homeopathic interview, prescribing, and follow-up management.
Otherwise, the naturopathic 'homeopathy' will be quite a different
experience than with a classical homeopath.
Best wishes,
Liz
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[sunny sunny]

(And it's a very common observation that when one is "on a good remedy" one very often *doesn't* need the vitamins etc. that had been needed before. What a treat!)

Shannon

I wish that is what I have found in practice. I have mostly a geriatric practice currently. Even when on a good diet and consitutional care over several years, a good number of my patients have lab work that shows vitamin deficiencies.

I personally believe probiotics and good gut flora and daily bowel movements are also required for the body to absorb nutrients from foods and or vitamins.

I also believe one should only take vitamins and supplements Monday - Friday and take the weekends off or no more than 2 months daily and take a couple of weeks off.

I have joined the staff of a pediatric wellness center with MD's, Acupuncturists, Homeopath (me) Chiropractors, Nutritionist, Midwife, Doula, Lactation coach, school for learning development, school psychologist, massage, cranial sacral therapist, color, sound, aromatherapy, Tai Chi, Reki and Qi Gong. It is the only one of it's kind that we know of in Florida if not the US.

A few years from now I might be able to evaluate if children who are NOT on vitamins and on constitutional homeopathic care really needed to take supplements.

It really is fun to work with those who don't have years of suppression and layers to peel off. They are responding in a short time what has taken many months to clear in the geriatric population.

Cheers,

Sunny
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[Shannon Nelson]

Wow, the clinic sounds *amazing*!!!
Re the need-or-not for vitamins, I did not mean to say that *no one*
would need them if on a good remedy; I've made the observation re
myself and my kids, but I simply decide on "need" according to the
observable symptoms that I'm familiar with for basic nutrients. I
didn't mean to generalize too broadly...
Shannon

[Didi Ananda Rucira]

Hi all,

Personally I don't see the conflict. I believe Hahnemann recognized the power of Naturopathy and endorsed it.

Hahnemann on Naturopathic therapies from the Organon

286 Sixth Edition
The dynamic force of minerals magnets, electricity and galvanism act no less powerfully upon our life principle and they are not less homoeopathic than the properly so-called medicines which neutralize disease by taking them through the mouth, or by rubbing them on the skin or by olfaction.

287 Sixth Edition
The powers of the magnet for healing purposes can be employed with more certainty according to the positive effects detailed in the Materia Medica Pura under north and south pole of a powerful magnetic bar.

288 Sixth Edition
I find it yet necessary to allude here to animal magnetism, as it is termed, or rather Mesmerism (as it should be called in deference to Mesmer, its first founder) which differs so much in its nature from all other therapeutic agents. This curative force, often so stupidly denied and disdained for a century, acts in different ways. It is a marvellous, priceless gift of God to mankind by means of which the strong will of a well intentioned person upon a sick one by contact and even without this and even at some distance, can bring the vital energy of the healthy mesmerizer endowed with this power into another person dynamically

290 Sixth Edition
Here belongs also the so-called massage of vigorous good-natured person given to a chronic invalid, who, though cured, still suffers from loss of flesh, weakness of digestion and lack of sleep due to slow convalescence.
291 Sixth Edition
Baths of pure water prove themselves partly palliative, partly as homoeopathic serviceable aids in restoring health in acute diseases as well as in convalescence of cured chronic patients with proper consideration of the conditions of the convalescent and the temperature of the bath, its duration and repetition.
Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Ruchira
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[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Didi,
I don't think anyone's been suggesting that there's a *conflict*, only
that naturapathy schools do not teach homeopathy to any depth,
presumably simply due to limitations of time.
Shannon

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Didi,
Well, the quotes below cover just one tiny aspect of naturopathy.

Generally speaking: To-day's naturopathy is mostly what was allopathy
in Hahnemann's days!

Regards

Luise
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[Tanya Marquette]

where is this clinic in florida? what is its name?
sound very exciting
tanya
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[Shannon Nelson]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 5:08 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:
?? Now that I doubt!!! Can you explain your thought?
The allopaths did not (so far as I know) use vitamins, minerals or
herbs (in fact the US's AMA was specifically begun in order to protect
them from the "herbalists and homeopaths."); the naturapaths do not use
mercurials or the other drugs (nor bloodletting nor some of the other
more "colorful" methods).
??

[Tanya Marquette]

i think the issue is total paradigm. many 'holisitic' healers work
out of the allopathic paradigm. symptoms=disease. if this
sx, then give that supplement, herb, etc.

even acupuncture can be applied that way. i had a very specific
experience of this a few yrs ago when i had increasingly severe
arthritic pains. the guy i saw, who was so highly recommended
only treated sx and never constitution. after 2 tx he wanted to
send me to an md for drugs! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

i also was in close friendship with an acupuncturist a number of
years ago. she would discuss her frustration at people refusing
to let her work constitutionally and would only accept tx on the
sx level.

tanya

[Shannon Nelson]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 9:22 AM, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Well, I think it is in part a matter of degree (at least naturapaths
are using substances that are more or less *natural* to human bodies!).
And have a broader understanding of "health" and "healing".

Presumably because constitutional approach would be slower and far more
expensive, yes?
Shannon