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saroes25
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by saroes25 »

Hello,
I am new to this group.
My husband was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes two weeks ago. He's an
active 28 year old and we were shocked with the diagnoses.
A naturopath/homeopath has told us that we could use natural medicine
to treat the diabetes and possibly 'cure' it. Has anyone have any info
on treatment of diabetes?
thanks in advance!


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Saroes,
The first thing I would look at is diet (since you say he is
active--exercise is also very important!). If he eats refined foods
such as white bread and baked goods, white sugar, soft drinks, fast
foods, processed foods, these would seem like the most likely suspects.
Refining removes the trace minerals and fibers which are needed for
many functions, including blood sugar regulation.

In that case the starting point would be switch to a diet of
(preferably organic) whole grains and tons more veggies (make the
change in stages, not all at once!). Supplementing chromium (a trace
mineral) and herbs to support the pancreas might be useful initially.
(Gymnema sylvestre is one, but a stroll thru the health food store
would yield others, as would googling something like "diabetes herbs".

He should get a home blood sugar monitor (not very expensive, and easy
to use) and monitor frequently enough to find his patterns. In
particular, a food that a person is allergic too may shoot the blood
sugar up quite a bit, and it would be important to avoid those foods.
That would be easily checked by monitoring before and after meals for a
while, and in *some* cases that might be the only treatment
needed--depending, of course, of what *is* causing his trouble!

Homeopathic care could of course be very useful too, *but* if poor diet
is a factor, it should be addressed in any case! If he's already
eating whole grains and etc., then I'd fall back on "see a good
homeopath!"

Hope some of this is useful--good luck!
Shannon


srinivasan venkatesan
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by srinivasan venkatesan »

Homoeopathy cures a diabetic patient.
Two steps ae involved
1. Homoeopathic medicine
2. Diet

My practice regarding diet:
[a] I let the patient take the food that is compatible to his four senses[except to that of hearing] , mind and stomach.
If the patient can carefully watch his / her craving, aversions, and those dietary articles that definitely disagree, the choice of right remedy is facilitated. Also the quantity and associated variants need not be restricted, rather that can be used as sign posts for the finding of right remedy.
[c] I don't impose any specific supplementation / restriction / dietary pattern. In my understanding, there can't be general guidelines, but only individualization.
Dr.Srinivas

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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Dear Saroes
Welcome to Minutus
Please check whether your husband takes ASPARTAME. This is the sweetener that is in more than 6000 foods and drink including DIET, SUGAR FREE and often reduced sugar products. Also marketed under Canderel, Equal, Nutrasweet etc.
He should avoid all such products and sugarefree gum too.
We have had cases of people who consumed aspartame and had been diagnosed as diabetic. Then once they stopped taking aspartame, the diabetes symptoms disappeared and their blood sugar normalised.
If you need more info contact Betty Martini (bettym19@mindspring.com )
or see www.mpwhi.com or

www.holisticmed.com/aspartame

Best wishes
Soroush

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Hello,
I am new to this group.
My husband was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes two weeks ago. He's an
active 28 year old and we were shocked with the diagnoses.
A naturopath/homeopath has told us that we could use natural medicine
to treat the diabetes and possibly 'cure' it. Has anyone have any info
on treatment of diabetes?
thanks in advance!
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by Tanya Marquette »

diet is absolutely critical. many cases of diabetes 2 are easily controlled
and reversed with dietary changes. all the standard villains need to be
eliminated: ALL refined grains and sugars and even organic whole grains
should be taken in very small amounts if at all. Vegetables need to have
larger amounts of dark green leafy ones and less of the starchy root veggies.
fruit juices should not be drunk for the high sugar concentration in them.
there are many good books on dealing with diabetes naturally and some
good articles online.
homeopathy would be a very good avenue to pursue. he needs to get
a proper case taken by a good professional classical homepath.
tanya


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Dr. Srinivas,
While it may be that proper remedy(s) will remove the need to be
careful about diet, this question was asked about someone who is *not*
currently under homeopathic care, and in that situation it would be
quite important to realize which foods are doing harm (raising the
blood sugar), and avoid them, wouldn't you agree?

In a state of health, the cravings and aversions will play a role in
guiding the patient toward what s/he needs; but in a state of chronic
dis-ease (such as is the case here), the desires and aversions are
*not* giving the patient accurate (healthy) advise. (Tho as you say,
they are useful for choosing the needed homeopathic remedy.)
Best wishes,
Shannon


medmidas
Posts: 111
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:00 pm

Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by medmidas »

Hi,
There is no sensible logic in using Arnica at all.
But I find following working very well in Diabetes type 2.
1. Insulinum 6
2. Arnica 6
Sorry for triggering opposition.
===========================

srinivasan venkatesan wrote:

Homoeopathy cures a diabetic patient.
Two steps ae involved
1. Homoeopathic medicine
2. Diet

My practice regarding diet:
[a] I let the patient take the food that is compatible to his four
senses[except to that of hearing] , mind and stomach.
If the patient can carefully watch his / her craving, aversions, and
those dietary articles that definitely disagree, the choice of right
remedy is facilitated. Also the quantity and associated variants need
not be restricted, rather that can be used as sign posts for the finding
of right remedy.
[c] I don't impose any specific supplementation / restriction / dietary
pattern. In my understanding, there can't be general guidelines, but
only individualization.
Dr.Srinivas


srinivasan venkatesan
Posts: 43
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:00 pm

Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by srinivasan venkatesan »

Altering the diet has produced two changes

1. False sense of health - a premature sense of well being, thereby masking the symptoms and beclouding the further management.

2.Change of diet often has an emotional impact.

The mail was aimed at both the patient / the applicant, as well as the practicing homoeopathic fraternity. Even if the patient is not under homoeopthic hand, i wish i communicate to them what exactly we [ I ] do as homoeopath[s].

My understanding about the role of desires / aversions/ aggravations of food articles is related to disease and not in health. A careful scrutiny of our vast literature says this, which is further confirmed by careful clinical observation and impartial judgement.

Dr.Srinivas
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by Tanya Marquette »

so how did you arrive at using arnica?


Shannon Nelson
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:00 pm

Re: Type 2 diabetes

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Dr. Srinivas,
I do understand and appreciate those points.
I think our two answers to the questioner would making two different
sets of assumptions, so let me ask this:

For someone who is *not* under homeopathic care, would you agree that
managing the diet is important and that my advice was sound? Or do you
feel that *no one* with Type II diabetes (or other chronic metabolic
disease) needs / ought to be altering their diet away from wherever
their desires and aversions take them?

Thanks,
Shannon


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