online case GP/Feb.01
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online case GP/Feb.01
hi everybody,
here is my first discription of a online case:
he is 37 years old and with age of 10 years he gets allergic against trees animal hairs, with 32 years he gets asthma in addition. Basic therapy: inhalative cortison spray by his doctor.
He says, the situation on works gets in this time difficulty and he were dayly stressed (work time 10 to 14 hours per day). In the last 3 years he gots 5-6 times grippal infects, especially lung and nose were affected. While antibiotic therapie takes in the last time no more longtime affect he cames to me before 1 year.
Additional he has on this time a 'stable' chronic sinusitis with acut phases in approx. monthly rythm. Breathing throw nose is more and more unavailible. Cold weather and rain is bad on lung and nose; hot smooth also on nose.
I try to stable vegetative nervouse system and the acut sinusitis and bronchitis situation with complex mixtures on low potentials.
After trying different mixtures the situation gets for the next time better and then he turns back to the old body symptoms, but they are 'smaller'. So he can reduce the dose of cortison, but the whole symptome status is clamping.
Also 'candita mycose' were found in excrements by laboratority test, probiotic therapy of 10 weeks is finished in last november and we get better lab-results with temporarly subjective better symptome-situation. Now he goes step by step back to the old symptomes..
Add. remark:
I saw to him, change your working enviroment and we win, he did, but we are on the same place as before.
(He changed the company at the half of last year to get out the big stress.)
Now he is afraid, that he can't successfully work in his job, but he is often ill and his working-performance goes slightly down.
He dreams bad and has start sleeping problems in evening, but is tired on first half day. Often he wakes up from 2:30 to 4:30 and then he sleeps deep to 9:00 if he can do it.
I don't know no more, what I can do.
help,
gunter
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here is my first discription of a online case:
he is 37 years old and with age of 10 years he gets allergic against trees animal hairs, with 32 years he gets asthma in addition. Basic therapy: inhalative cortison spray by his doctor.
He says, the situation on works gets in this time difficulty and he were dayly stressed (work time 10 to 14 hours per day). In the last 3 years he gots 5-6 times grippal infects, especially lung and nose were affected. While antibiotic therapie takes in the last time no more longtime affect he cames to me before 1 year.
Additional he has on this time a 'stable' chronic sinusitis with acut phases in approx. monthly rythm. Breathing throw nose is more and more unavailible. Cold weather and rain is bad on lung and nose; hot smooth also on nose.
I try to stable vegetative nervouse system and the acut sinusitis and bronchitis situation with complex mixtures on low potentials.
After trying different mixtures the situation gets for the next time better and then he turns back to the old body symptoms, but they are 'smaller'. So he can reduce the dose of cortison, but the whole symptome status is clamping.
Also 'candita mycose' were found in excrements by laboratority test, probiotic therapy of 10 weeks is finished in last november and we get better lab-results with temporarly subjective better symptome-situation. Now he goes step by step back to the old symptomes..
Add. remark:
I saw to him, change your working enviroment and we win, he did, but we are on the same place as before.
(He changed the company at the half of last year to get out the big stress.)
Now he is afraid, that he can't successfully work in his job, but he is often ill and his working-performance goes slightly down.
He dreams bad and has start sleeping problems in evening, but is tired on first half day. Often he wakes up from 2:30 to 4:30 and then he sleeps deep to 9:00 if he can do it.
I don't know no more, what I can do.
help,
gunter
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Re: online case GP/Feb.01
Hi Gunter,
Can you describe your patient in more detail please. What is he like as a
person? How would his family and friends describe him? What makes him angry
and what makes him sad? What are his fears? How does he react to the
weather. I take it that you work by prescribing on the physical symptoms. I
normally prescribe on the mental and emotional symptoms. The generalities
can also be important. Can you find out his food desires and aversions? Have
you ever read Sankaran? This is the sort of thing I would like to know about
your patient.
Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Can you describe your patient in more detail please. What is he like as a
person? How would his family and friends describe him? What makes him angry
and what makes him sad? What are his fears? How does he react to the
weather. I take it that you work by prescribing on the physical symptoms. I
normally prescribe on the mental and emotional symptoms. The generalities
can also be important. Can you find out his food desires and aversions? Have
you ever read Sankaran? This is the sort of thing I would like to know about
your patient.
Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Re: online case GP/Feb.01
Hello Gunter,
Two things I would recommend.
First, remember that Samuel Hahnemann adjures us in Organon, Aphorism 260:
"..the careful investigation into such OBSTACLES to CURE is so much the more
necessary in the case of patients affected by chronic disease, as their
disease is usually agravated by such noxious influences and other disease
causing errors in the diet and regimen, which often pass unnoticed."
I consider Candida overgrowth to be a such an "obstacle to cure" which can
be removed by a rather simple program of intestinal hygiene as described at
www.holisticmed.com/detox/dtx-gastro.txt
The particular cleanse program I have used and suggested to clients with
good result is the "Cleanse and Purify Thyself" program.. described at the
website above, along with some others. The results of this program, if
followed for 10 days, are incredibly dramatic; in terms of the elimination
of vast amounts of "fecal mucoid placque" .. which adheres to the inner
surface of the intestine, providing a perfect *anaerobic* growth medium for
Candida.
Next, I'd recommend you read up on Bowel Nosodes, and see if one may
recommend itself in your case. If you don't have any text on Bowel Nosodes,
please find one here:
www.localcomputermart.com/homeopathy/Paterson-bowel.txt
(copy the whole thing into your word-processor for better readability; also
allows you to save it permanently onto your computer.)
If you DO choose to read up on the Bowel Nosodes and wish to discuss the
case further along those lines, PLEASE do so! I have some additional
references which could be helpful.
Oh... also a third thing... similia minimus
(complex cannot be minimum, eh?)
regards,
Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284
Tri-Cities Computer (TN) |Asheville Computer (NC)
423-952-0983 or 877-245-3362 |(828)285-0240
$9.95 internet http://www.federalisp.com/?page=ispsignup
Two things I would recommend.
First, remember that Samuel Hahnemann adjures us in Organon, Aphorism 260:
"..the careful investigation into such OBSTACLES to CURE is so much the more
necessary in the case of patients affected by chronic disease, as their
disease is usually agravated by such noxious influences and other disease
causing errors in the diet and regimen, which often pass unnoticed."
I consider Candida overgrowth to be a such an "obstacle to cure" which can
be removed by a rather simple program of intestinal hygiene as described at
www.holisticmed.com/detox/dtx-gastro.txt
The particular cleanse program I have used and suggested to clients with
good result is the "Cleanse and Purify Thyself" program.. described at the
website above, along with some others. The results of this program, if
followed for 10 days, are incredibly dramatic; in terms of the elimination
of vast amounts of "fecal mucoid placque" .. which adheres to the inner
surface of the intestine, providing a perfect *anaerobic* growth medium for
Candida.
Next, I'd recommend you read up on Bowel Nosodes, and see if one may
recommend itself in your case. If you don't have any text on Bowel Nosodes,
please find one here:
www.localcomputermart.com/homeopathy/Paterson-bowel.txt
(copy the whole thing into your word-processor for better readability; also
allows you to save it permanently onto your computer.)
If you DO choose to read up on the Bowel Nosodes and wish to discuss the
case further along those lines, PLEASE do so! I have some additional
references which could be helpful.
Oh... also a third thing... similia minimus

(complex cannot be minimum, eh?)
regards,
Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284
Tri-Cities Computer (TN) |Asheville Computer (NC)
423-952-0983 or 877-245-3362 |(828)285-0240
$9.95 internet http://www.federalisp.com/?page=ispsignup
Re: online case GP/Feb.01
Dear Dave
Any idea what is in the Triphala on this site and if it is available in UK?
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
Any idea what is in the Triphala on this site and if it is available in UK?
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Re: online case GP/Feb.01
Hi all,
I have to caution people on the readiness to attribute any vaginal discharge
to Candida.
The best thing to do is to send the patient to her medical doctor for a
test--in order to try and determine what is really going on to produce the
discharge.
The usual test rules out chlamydia, gonorrhea, trichomonas, and candida.
What we often readily attribute to candida (white discharge, itchiness and
discomfort in the local area, accompanied by redness, etc. etc. is often NOT
candida but something else--sometimes something more serious, such as the
other illnesses listed above. Sometimes, it is something as simple as
atopic vaginitis, which should alert you to a problem with hormonal
imbalance. It usually occurs just before menopause in some women--but when
it occurs in women years before menopause is expected, it should put you on
alert!
In my case, this test really helped me get to the bottom of what had been
repeatedly (mis)diagnosed as Candida (which led to a series of remedies (and
crazy things like "cleanses" and anti-candida diets) focused on handling
fungal infections...all rather painful and useless, I'm afraid) and helped
to focus my homeopath on the hormonal issues which were really influencing
the case.
Regards,
Nancy
I have to caution people on the readiness to attribute any vaginal discharge
to Candida.
The best thing to do is to send the patient to her medical doctor for a
test--in order to try and determine what is really going on to produce the
discharge.
The usual test rules out chlamydia, gonorrhea, trichomonas, and candida.
What we often readily attribute to candida (white discharge, itchiness and
discomfort in the local area, accompanied by redness, etc. etc. is often NOT
candida but something else--sometimes something more serious, such as the
other illnesses listed above. Sometimes, it is something as simple as
atopic vaginitis, which should alert you to a problem with hormonal
imbalance. It usually occurs just before menopause in some women--but when
it occurs in women years before menopause is expected, it should put you on
alert!
In my case, this test really helped me get to the bottom of what had been
repeatedly (mis)diagnosed as Candida (which led to a series of remedies (and
crazy things like "cleanses" and anti-candida diets) focused on handling
fungal infections...all rather painful and useless, I'm afraid) and helped
to focus my homeopath on the hormonal issues which were really influencing
the case.
Regards,
Nancy
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Re: online case GP/Feb.01
Hi Rochelle, hi Dave, hi other minutus members,
at first thanks for your answer.
Rochelle, you are right, I've disscribed primary his body symptomes,
Sankaran I haven't read. Say me more about that.
Dave, thanks for your links, this is usefull for me.
So now I say, what I know about mental and general symptomes.
generalities:
He is guardedly, shy and friendly to anybody. (I think this is a interior
conflict with his working role as team leader, but I'm not sure.)
Has problems to represent his boundary to somebody, because he don't like to
misdoing something to somebody.
He knows about this and talk about this to me, but he can't correct this.
In order to this, he like to be perfect in some things, in another things
(especially his OWN) he is carelessly.
Sometimes he is easyly exitable (as an self protection reaction?!).
I think there is a lack of self esteem in background.
He can't see, if somebody is underlaying in competitive situations of life
or if somebody (also animals) suffers (i.e. illness).
I think, fairness ist for him an important property.
He is married and sometimes there are conflicts with his (perfectly
housekeeping) wife on little problems, he says.
for friends is no time, because work occupied all time of the day, he says.
weather:
bad: cold, smoothy
food:
prefered: meet, sausage, sweet baked goods
sleeping&dreams:
wakes up at 3:00 to 5:00 with fright emotions, in this case sometimes he
dreamed with sequences of fighting or often escaping from something,
transpiration
dreaming situations often reflecting problems with peoples on work or
something else (in order to his above discribed
dozy on morning, sleepless on evening
In the past I don't see a good simile, thats because i give mixtures of 3 to
5 substances for acut problems and general refreshment for immune and
vegetative system.
And of course acut illness should be down before looking for chronic
desease, this is a problem of this instable situation of periodic sinusitis
and bronchitis infects.
Question: Do you use (or would like in future) electronical case study tools
or remedy finder? (repertory, i.e. kent, synthesis)
I'm not sure, that I get a better result in using this. Your opinion, your
expirience ?
Do you prefere a practice checked structure for doing repertorisations ?
Regards,
Gunter
at first thanks for your answer.
Rochelle, you are right, I've disscribed primary his body symptomes,
Sankaran I haven't read. Say me more about that.
Dave, thanks for your links, this is usefull for me.
So now I say, what I know about mental and general symptomes.
generalities:
He is guardedly, shy and friendly to anybody. (I think this is a interior
conflict with his working role as team leader, but I'm not sure.)
Has problems to represent his boundary to somebody, because he don't like to
misdoing something to somebody.
He knows about this and talk about this to me, but he can't correct this.
In order to this, he like to be perfect in some things, in another things
(especially his OWN) he is carelessly.
Sometimes he is easyly exitable (as an self protection reaction?!).
I think there is a lack of self esteem in background.
He can't see, if somebody is underlaying in competitive situations of life
or if somebody (also animals) suffers (i.e. illness).
I think, fairness ist for him an important property.
He is married and sometimes there are conflicts with his (perfectly
housekeeping) wife on little problems, he says.
for friends is no time, because work occupied all time of the day, he says.
weather:
bad: cold, smoothy
food:
prefered: meet, sausage, sweet baked goods
sleeping&dreams:
wakes up at 3:00 to 5:00 with fright emotions, in this case sometimes he
dreamed with sequences of fighting or often escaping from something,
transpiration
dreaming situations often reflecting problems with peoples on work or
something else (in order to his above discribed
dozy on morning, sleepless on evening
In the past I don't see a good simile, thats because i give mixtures of 3 to
5 substances for acut problems and general refreshment for immune and
vegetative system.
And of course acut illness should be down before looking for chronic
desease, this is a problem of this instable situation of periodic sinusitis
and bronchitis infects.
Question: Do you use (or would like in future) electronical case study tools
or remedy finder? (repertory, i.e. kent, synthesis)
I'm not sure, that I get a better result in using this. Your opinion, your
expirience ?
Do you prefere a practice checked structure for doing repertorisations ?
Regards,
Gunter
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Re: online case GP/Feb.01
hi joy, (and other minutus members)
as appendix my first mail.
Thank you for your response, my english is poorly, but you have understood, what I mean in the first part.
Your comparison with doormat is very good.
Your text says, what is happening:
emotionally but friendly, he presents an image of himself in public but at
home/in private he is different?
On work he shows oneself powerfull and friendly and at home he is gravely and often unhappily or sadly.
He has also inhibition in speaking in front of a group of persons. Sometimes he must do it (situations from workgroup to congresses), today he helps oneself with soothing pills to repress the excitement and worry/anxiety. It'ts the same, that he don't like to accomplish his own interests against person(s).
Your next sentence expresses, what is also shining on me:
I think it's his lack of self confidence (He have had a stringently childhood, I think there is a correlation).
He was thinking, he is only good and lovable, if he gives all and his performance (at school i.e.) is top.
I talk about this with him and say him, he is loveable as a person, not only his performance ist it.
He understood, but for him is it very difficult to realise it in life.
leck
I can't say: He is self centered. But I think, he is feeling alone deep inside and there is a "black leakage". I feel in his words, he is longing to close this lack.
Example to illustrate "The little things" at home, he told me: A conflict begins, if he takes something outside from fridge and stand this on the board in the kitchen, becaue it is to cold for drinking. After 10 Minutes he come back and the milk i.e. is away. What is happen? His wife put the milk back in fridge. This repeats. He converse his request to his wife, but next time the same repeats. He will be agressive in words and close the door with great force and let stay his wife alone. And then she says he is a bad husband. He focused his reaction to the event, that was happened, but she won't here this at this moment.
The circle is complete for escalating a conflict situation.
He like competiveness, as a child he was an active sportsman: in this time the consequence of losing or winning is a competition is a game, but the consequence in real live is, that somebody lose the job or it is something else hard for the loser. This ist that he can't support with his conscience.
"He can't misdoing to somebody - I wrote."
In addition to my first mail: He can't also see in news and drive crazy, in case somebody (i.e. Afghanisthan in this days) suffers. Here he would like to help everybody, but he know, it doesn't work. This makes him sadly. In order he likely avoid to look news. (caused on faint facing the problem and hurting his feeling of fairness)
Sadness and anxiety is probably fundamentally feeling of his live.
I hope you understand this, please query, if it isn't so.
Best regards
Gunter
as appendix my first mail.
Thank you for your response, my english is poorly, but you have understood, what I mean in the first part.
Your comparison with doormat is very good.
Your text says, what is happening:
emotionally but friendly, he presents an image of himself in public but at
home/in private he is different?
On work he shows oneself powerfull and friendly and at home he is gravely and often unhappily or sadly.
He has also inhibition in speaking in front of a group of persons. Sometimes he must do it (situations from workgroup to congresses), today he helps oneself with soothing pills to repress the excitement and worry/anxiety. It'ts the same, that he don't like to accomplish his own interests against person(s).
Your next sentence expresses, what is also shining on me:
I think it's his lack of self confidence (He have had a stringently childhood, I think there is a correlation).
He was thinking, he is only good and lovable, if he gives all and his performance (at school i.e.) is top.
I talk about this with him and say him, he is loveable as a person, not only his performance ist it.
He understood, but for him is it very difficult to realise it in life.
leck
I can't say: He is self centered. But I think, he is feeling alone deep inside and there is a "black leakage". I feel in his words, he is longing to close this lack.
Example to illustrate "The little things" at home, he told me: A conflict begins, if he takes something outside from fridge and stand this on the board in the kitchen, becaue it is to cold for drinking. After 10 Minutes he come back and the milk i.e. is away. What is happen? His wife put the milk back in fridge. This repeats. He converse his request to his wife, but next time the same repeats. He will be agressive in words and close the door with great force and let stay his wife alone. And then she says he is a bad husband. He focused his reaction to the event, that was happened, but she won't here this at this moment.
The circle is complete for escalating a conflict situation.
He like competiveness, as a child he was an active sportsman: in this time the consequence of losing or winning is a competition is a game, but the consequence in real live is, that somebody lose the job or it is something else hard for the loser. This ist that he can't support with his conscience.
"He can't misdoing to somebody - I wrote."
In addition to my first mail: He can't also see in news and drive crazy, in case somebody (i.e. Afghanisthan in this days) suffers. Here he would like to help everybody, but he know, it doesn't work. This makes him sadly. In order he likely avoid to look news. (caused on faint facing the problem and hurting his feeling of fairness)
Sadness and anxiety is probably fundamentally feeling of his live.
I hope you understand this, please query, if it isn't so.
Best regards
Gunter
Re: online case GP/Feb.01
Hi Joy and Gunter,
My initial reaction but I have to admit I haven't had time to rep it, is
that maybe Lycopodium may help this patient. Do look into the remedy Gunter
and see if it suits.
Regards, Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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My initial reaction but I have to admit I haven't had time to rep it, is
that maybe Lycopodium may help this patient. Do look into the remedy Gunter
and see if it suits.
Regards, Rochelle
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Re: online case GP/Feb.01
Hi Joy and Gunter,
My initial reaction but I have to admit I haven't had time to rep it, is
that maybe Lycopodium may help this patient. Do look into the remedy Gunter
and see if it suits.
Regards, Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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My initial reaction but I have to admit I haven't had time to rep it, is
that maybe Lycopodium may help this patient. Do look into the remedy Gunter
and see if it suits.
Regards, Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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