psoric conifer?

[Shannon Nelson]

What would be (if there is) a psoric member of the conifer family?
Thanks,
Shannon

[Gail]

Hi Shannon,

I've got Sankaran's Insight into plants - no Psoric conifer listed, for
that matter no Syphilitic or Leprous either:

Acute - Agathis aust
Typhoid - Terebintha
Ringworm - Pseudotsuga
Malaria - Abies Nigra
Sycosis - Thuja
Cancer - Sabina
Tubercular - Pix-liquida

Other conifers not classified are Abies Can, Sequoia-g, Taxus baccata,
the cyprusses, and junipers.
Family comparisons - Legumes, Scrophulariaceae and Malvales.

Gail.
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[Dale Moss]

Perhaps because of the sense of emptiness and over-eating you could make a case for Abies-can. as a psoric conifer.
Peace,
Dale

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks, Gail!
Do you (or anyone) happen to see a miasm assigned to Kauri? (Which I
think is also a conifer, isn't it?) But--this is a great list, thanks
for it!
Shannon

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks, Dale! I'll look at it.
Shannon

[Gail Allen]

Yes I started thinking that way too about Abies Can - but it seems that sense of emptiness is a strong conifer theme in general, the stomach emptiness is also in Abies nigra, Taxus b, and Sabina, Thuja has emptiness and fullness in almost every system, Sequoia has emotional emptiness. Don't know whether there is over-eating in them generally? - maybe that does belong more to Abies-can.
Kauri is Agathis Australis
Gail
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:45:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: psoric conifer?
Perhaps because of the sense of emptiness and over-eating you could make a case for Abies-can. as a psoric conifer.
Peace,
Dale
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[Shannon Nelson]

Does anyone have information on abies can that goes beyond e.g. this
from Phatak? I find the same small bit copied over and over, but so
far haven't found anything going beyond it.
Thanks!
Shannon

Phatak:
It affects the Mucous Membranes and Nerves. In stomach, it causes
a catarrhal condition, which increases the patient's hunger and craving
for coarse food, such as pickles, radishes, turnips, etc. Patient wants
to lie down, all the time, on account of nervous weakness and feels
faint. In women, it causes uterine displacement, due to defective
nutrition and debility. Peculiar sensations are- right lung and liver,
feel hard and small; uterus feels soft. Lies with the legs drawn up.

Mind.
Easily fretful or quiet and careless.

Head.
Feels, as if it is light or there is swimming in the head.

Stomach.
Ravenous appetite. Tendency to eat, far beyond the capacity of
digestion. Distension of abdomen and stomach, with palpitation.

Female.
Sore feeling at the uterus better pressure. Uterus soft and feeble
as if.

Fever.
Cold shivering, as if blood were ice-water.

Skin.
Clammy and sticky.

[Gail]

Hi Shannon,

I've found a bit, but not much more in Clarke: I'll add the extra symptoms in blue below

Clinical: Indigestion. Liver disorder. Uterine displacement.

Characteristics: Great appetite, tendency to overeat....Hale say it has cured "A lightheaded feeling, attended with a gnawing hungry faint feeling at epigastrium, craving hunger which if satisfied causes distension of the stomach and hard beating of the heart". Peculiar sensations: as if the right lung and liver were small and hard; pain beneath right scapular. Pt lies with legs drawn up. Shivering as if the blood turned to cold water.
Eyes; as if a styein outer canthus of left

Mouth: dry

Stool and Anus: Burning in Rectum. Constipation

Urine: Frequent day and night, straw colour.
Resp: Labored

Neck and back: weak feeling in sacral area. feeling like cold water between shoulders

General: Hands cold, shrunken. Prostration, wants to lie down all the time. Twitching muscles.

Sleep: Restless and tossing at night. Gaping and drowsy

[Dale Moss]

Shannon:
Here are some notes of mine, compiled from various sources. There is also a 2006 Interhomeopathy case involving Abies-can.

CHARACTERISTICS: Affects mucous membranes; marked gastric sxs. Treatment of chronic gastric affections and uterine disorders; catarrhal condition of stomach. Particularly useful for women with uterine displacement, associated with a faint sinking sensation in the pelvis, and the characteristic indigestion. Abies-canadensis is indicated in cases where you have probably failed with such remedies as Nux-v, Sepia, Chelidonium and Lyc. The problems of these patients are focused mainly in the digestive system with the first target being the mucous membranes of the stomach. We see an increase of gastric juices that have as a result a tremendous gnawing hunger. The person has the feeling that he cannot stand it, that it is eating up his stomach and that he has to eat something immediately to relieve this gnawing pain. There is an empty feeling in the stomach that cannot be satisfied with any amount of food. As a result he may be eating much more than he can digest and eventually feels that he has overloaded the stomach. Duodenal ulcers, gastritis, liver and gall bladder affections, hypoglycemia, etc.

SANKARAN: Conifers + ? MIASM = emptiness, brittleness, lack of connection with self or others; dissociatated, feels cut off. Sensation: Brittle, broken, fragile; connected/disconnected; EMPTY/FULL; cut off, fragmented. Passive reaction: indolent, fearful, weak. Active reaction: rigid, hard. Compensation: strong and protective of others who are brittle and fragile.

HERON: Inner EMPTINESS felt in their stomach. Several members in the conifer family share this sensation. Thuja, Sabina, Taxus, Abies canadensis and Abies nigra are listed in the rubrics 'emptiness' in the stomach or abdomen. Every tree has a large core of dead wood at its center, some becoming hollow once the tree is afflicted by disease. Between the cambium, which lies just inside the bark, and the pithy center of the tree, is the sapwood, which contains tracheids. These tracheids draw up massive amounts of water - up to 500 gallons each day - in order to fulfill the nutritional needs of the tree. At other times the trees exist in drought-like conditions. I wondered if there was any relationship between these facts and the symptoms "emptiness," "ravenous" and "wanting appetite" so common to the Conifer remedies.

OLSEN: Many of the conifers (cone-bearing trees) have a very strong effect on the APPETITE. For example, Pseudotsuga people often have bulimia, they can feel very alone, then sit at home and eat too much. The Shore Pine or Pinus contorta has at times a voracious appetite and then goes for months with no appetite at all. Abies balsam (Abies canadensis) also has a propensity to eat too much and Picea mariana (Abies nigra) has no hunger until the afternoon, but then they are hungry even at night and often have to wake up to eat. Sequoia in its proving showed a strong desire for food...for whatever was available. Hunger or the lack of it does not seem to play a major role in Thuja, Arbutus menziesii or Taxus brevifolia (Yew).

People that need one of the tree remedies have a PROFOUND FEELING OF BEING ISOLATED AND DISCONNECTED from other people. Thuja and Camphora are good examples, but in unique ways the other trees have this feeling also. For example, in two cases of Abies balsam (Abies can.) there was the idea of being alone and waiting to be rescued. They would follow anyone that paid attention to them. Despite this, there was still the continuous sense of isolation from others.
Peace,

Dale

[Shannon Nelson]

Dale, this is just wonderful!! Thank you so much!
Shannon