homeopathy -- dilution?

[Ardavan Shahrdar]

I absolutely agree with you!!
Ardavan
Fran Sheffield wrote:

[Christine Wyndham-Thomas]

Then all we are left with is "similar cure similars", and that would cover very nicely the self help groups.
Reminds me of recurring horrible dreams I had when I was younger. They were becoming more frequent and I was getting afraid to go to sleep. Then one day I read a book by Dennis Wheatley, an horror book. I never had another bad dream after that.
Christine
www.dogsonholiday-uk.com
www.homoeopathyclassical.com

Homeopathy in the UK is at risk, right now.
If you want freedom to choose, do something here:
www.homeopathyworkedforme

[Irene de Villiers]

Yes. And how did what I said, diminish that?

I think you misread. I was EXPANDING to include energy, which was
missing from the proposal, and to not exclude potentized remedies
which were also missing.
So I broadened the definition significantly:-)
Yes but a definition of "like helps like" is NOT sufficient to
explain what homeopathy is, to someone who does not know. Only a
homeopath truly understands that concept AFTER having studied it and
its ramifications.
We need to get to the ramifications - not to ONE example of them -
so that someone new to the concept, gets the picture.
There is far more to homeopathy than like helps like. There are vast
ways to use it.

If you exclude the main applications Hahnemann developed, you ar not
defining homeopathy.
After all, Hippocrates knew like cures lke a few hundred years BC.
Hahnemann coined the word not to support Hippocrates but to represent
the ENTIRE system he developed from that principle, over a lifetime.

My point is to NOT diminish that by going back to the Hippocrates
times:-)
It's now 2008, not 400BC.
We need MORE than "like cures like".

Namaste,
Irene
--
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

But if you stipulate that homeopathy is (by definition) practiced via
potentized remedies, then you remove usage of crude substance (as per
e.g. the case that Close(?) describes), magnets (as described in
Organon), heat (as applied to a burn), or tinctures (however
"homeopathically" chosen).
Of course not. Including another (which they will not understand to be
"non-binding") stipulation of "potentized remedies" does not change
that!

If potentized remedies are our "telescopes" (central but *not defining*
tools), then our "stars" would be "like cures like", and our vision of
cure.
And that was just the argument Ardavan used to support *not* making
potentization part of the definition--there are other applications of
it as well, including homeopathic usage of non-potentized substances.
But it's "interesting" to have a definition that excludes the whole
chunk of what Hahnemann called "homeopathy" in its first couple of
decades--homeopathic application of *crude substances*...

[Leilanae]

Hi,

Does anyone know the origin of the word homeopathic, not the
definition, the origin of the word?
Who coined it?

Thanks,

Leilanae

[Shannon Nelson]

My understanding has always been that Hahnemann coined it, to describe
the system that he was developing. He also coined the term
"allopathy", in contradistinction to homeopathy (allopathy = "different
suffering", i.e. treatment with drugs that produce symptoms *different*
from any the patient has had before).
Shannon

[Fran Sheffield]

What about the following for a definition?

Homeopathy: a therapy that treats, or prevents, mental and physical disease (ill-health) with agents capable of producing similar symptoms in those unaffected.

(Could also add in that it exploits the relationship between similar agents or energy? according to Law of Similars phenomena.)

Further definitions could then be developed or clarified for:
1. The Law of Similars
2. Disease
3. Symptoms
4. Homeopath - this is where it could be said, a person who does the above usually with potentised substances
5. Homeopathic
6. Potentisation and Potentised
--

Kind regards,

Fran Sheffield
Homeopathy Plus! (Information - Education - Treatment)
http://www.homeopathyplus.com.au
Do No Harm Initiative (Homeopathic Immunisation)
http://www.d-n-h.org

[Fran Sheffield]

Better still would be:

A process that exploits Law of Similars phenomena to treat or prevent mental and physical disease by agents capable of producing similar symptoms in those unaffected.

Fran Sheffield wrote:

[Leilanae]

Hi Shannon,

This is what I was thinking too.

Homeo= like, similiar
pathy/pathos=suffering

to describe a system with three principles:
law of similars
single remedy
minimum dose?

There must be something I'm missing.
Didn't know this, thanks!

Leilanae

[Shannon Nelson]

On Apr 10, 2008, at 8:48 PM, leilanae wrote:
? Why do you feel you're missing something?