Synthesis

[Irene de Villiers]

On Apr 6, 2008, at 1:59 AM,
wrote:

Dear Soroush,

What makes you say this?
Is there evidence of this?
(It would be nuts!)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Please see http://vaccinetruth.org/peanut_oil.htm

Regards

Soroush

[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

Hi, Rochelle.
I did find the rubric "Nuts agg" in Repertorium Universale:

GENERALITIES - phenomena - food and drinks - nuts - agg.

puls.k
There's a little "K" next to it, which I assume means the source is Kent.

Also, in the first version of Synthesis, Schroyens had that rubric, with one remedy, Bambusa. The rubric is no longer in the current version.

Rosemary
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[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

Rochelle,
can you find a remedy that works by looking at "allergic constitution" plus the actual symptoms? I think that the actual allergic trigger in most instances is not as important as the manifestation and modalities of the allergic symptoms.
Rosemary

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[Rochelle]

Thanks Dale . I have added this rubric to my rep.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Irene de Villiers]

On Apr 6, 2008, at 2:56 AM,
wrote:
Hi Soroush,

I've seen that website (not exactly an official research one) but
nowhere does it show peanut oil is used in current or recent (or any
other) vaccines.
It is a *potential* adjuvant, yes, per that site, as are many
substances. But that's misleading as most unofficial sites are.

However I did some further internet research and so far discovered:
Peanut oil has been researched in animals as an adjuvant
(guineapigs. monkeys, pigs for example) to determine its power as an
adjuvant -- and it is "hidden" in something called "Adjuvant 65"
which has a patent (United States Patent 3906092, Nov 1971, held by
Merck & Co).
Since then Merck used it at least in one specific *test* of human
influenza vaccine:
The ref in PubMed for the specific test referred to is here with
abstract from 1975 - but I can find nothing more recent:
"Response to influenza vaccine in adjuvant 65-4.
Smith JW, Fletcher WB, Peters M, Westwood M, Perkins FJ."
[The conclusion was that vaccine with adjuvant worked better than
vaccine without it]

The next reference in PubMed is a study in 1983 to compare efficacy
of three adjuvants, in which peanut oil (Adjuvant 65)
did nothing much at all, and the other two adjuvants (Freund's
complete and Freund's incomplete) were considered far superior.
"Responses were essentially similar in magnitude (for both versions
of Freunds) and response was distributed mainly among the IgGl, IgA
and IgM immunoglobulin classes. In contrast, there was a negligible
response in intestinal lymph following injection of antigen in
adjuvant 65."

So it looks like peanut oil was tried back in the 70s in research
only, and one human test showed it better than nothing, but
subsequent tests found it had negligible usefulness compared with
other adjuvants anyway.
Hence from an allopathic point of view, it would not make sense to
use it right?

Is there any CURRENT vaccine which has "peanut oil" or "Adjuvant 65"
as a specific ingredient ?

I do not find one.

I also find a provisional patent application dated Mar 17 2000 for a
new adjuvant (AMPHIPATHIC ALDEHYDES) where it states:
"BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION: The only vaccine adjuvant currently
licensed for human use in the United States is alum, (see, Arnon and
Regenmortel, FASEB J. 1992, 6 : 3265-3272) a group of aluminum salts
which enhance humoral (antibody) immunity to vaccine antigens (Arnon
and Regenmortel, 1992 ; Edelman, Rev. Infect. Dis. 1980, 2 : 370-383).

So it looks like peanut oil is NOT used as a vaccine adjuvant, at
least not for humans.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

But... How does that apply to someone who throws a violent and
immediate anaphylactic reaction to (in this case Brazil nut) the very
first time they are exposed--at l east as far as anyone can tell?
Thinking of my daughter. She's never reacted that way to anything else
(and had eaten nuts of other sorts), but her very first Brazil nut had
her screeching in alarm before she had nibbled as much as half the nut.

Doesn't it appear that certain "constitutions" are more prone to react
in one way rather than another, and to certain things more than others,
whether protein type or something else...?

Shannon

[Sheri Nakken]

and/or vaccines sensitizing us with the effect on the immune system and Th1 & Th2
Sheri

At 03:19 PM 4/6/2008, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm & http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases Reality

[Sheri Nakken]

that one they list is a swine vaccine

I keep hearing this but I don't know of any childhood vaccine that has an adjuvant related to peanuts
It is more the skewing of the immune system into hyper-reactivity
Sheri

At 04:56 PM 4/6/2008, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm & http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases Reality

[Irene de Villiers]

The anaphylactic response is an emergency first aid issue - but the
cause is the underlying chronic disease of allergic type.
Both need to be addressed.
I used to be atopic (allergic type) myself though I no longer have
that problem. Before I became a homeopath, research in allergy was my
field. I do sympathise with the life threatening nature of any
anaphylactic response and did not mean to suggest it was not relevant.
I controlled my own anaphylactic responses (for example if someone
used a knife on a banana and then cut something I ate, I'd have
anaphylactic response to the banana) with huge amounts of crystalline
ascorbic acid. I'd have to take at least a heaping teaspoon within a
minute or so, plus another one after 5 minutes, another after 20 mins
and so on till the response stopped.
My older son had similar response to yellowjacket stings (as do
I) and they would not let him carry an adrenalin syringe in preschool
(even though he knew exactly how to use it - and it would be too slow
to go get it from the nurse's office) so he also carried a 35mm film
container of crystal ascorbic acid and a bottle of water and some
sugar everywhere he went, and knew how to use it. Ideally the
ascorbic acid can be used in a glass of very warm water (to absorb
fast), with 4 times the sugar, so as to taste like lemonaid, but when
anaphylaxis is too fast, there's no time for that. By the 2nd dose
it can usually be arranged to taste better.
I once had an accidental banana episode without my kit. It was
at my aunt's house and she knew about my allergy. But a friend of
hers had brought desert which I did not realize and I had a taste and
realized some banana was in there. I grabbed the car, and drove like
a maniac to a nearby pharmacy, fully ready to break a window to get
in if needed, ran in and started swallowing vit C. It worked and I
did manage to tell the store I was having an emergency and would pay
for it later.
It's all very well if one one prepared, it is so scary when it
happens the first time. My son's first time with yellowjackets was
when we were camping in the middle of nowhere and the kids
inadvertently "found" a nest. It was a fellow camper who knew the
ascorbic acid trick and supplied it.
I'm sure several factors all play a part - constitutional type
predelictions, actual exposures to "foreign" protein that gets into
the blood, immune system damage from vaccines, dietary trends.
In my case, the yellowjacket issue is strange in that my father (who
had no other known allergies at all) was badly allergic to them as he
found out by accident, I am and my older son is. That seems a bit
much for coincidence.
My banana allergy is far easier to explain in that my mother told
me I could not get enough of it as a baby. (I have a kidney defect
that pumps out the potassium and I wonder if I wanted banana to
supply it.) Anyway I do not remember liking it as a baby. I do
remember telling my mother it made me sick when I was about 7, and
she did not believe me. We were staying at a hotel on vacation and
she hid some banana under the gravy (to prove to me I could eat it
and was making a fuss about nothing). I was lucky to survive the
incident and had to be rushed to hospital. She did not disbelieve my
allergy after that. In THIS case I have to presume that the
vaccinations I had (lots and lots of them) predisposed my immune
system to Th-2 side then somehow banana got past the gut wall and
into the blood.

So I am sure that all the different things that can contribute to a
person becoming badly allergic to something, can do so in different
ratios in different situations. However in ALL cases, I am convincer
that a h-2 skewed immune system is a prerequisite and that the atopy
is reversed if that can be remedied.
Doing so will not necessarily remove the allergic response to
something the body already has antibody for and "sees" as "foreign",
but no new allergies will develop - so previous bad allergies may
need to be avoided for a long time if not indefinitely.

It may be that homeopathy can individually also overcome specific
allergic responses. I say this because I made a remedy to
yellowjacket, from a local one, and used it at 9C as a deterrent to
the local nasty yellowjackets, spraying it around me or at them, to
chase them (which it did). During the making of the remedy, I got
powder on me at various lower concentrations (sloppy technique when
triturating) and for months after that got "stung" now and then, in
random places, gradually tapering. I suspect that aggravation due to
remedy making actually may have removed my allergy - but I have not
done the ultimate test and got stung. I can say I no longer have the
fear I used to have when just seeing one of the critters. And that
also leads me to think the allergy may be gone.

Not sure if any of that discussion is useful in some way:-)?

Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."