You're absolutely right, Jean. Thanks for sharing that thought. I just wanted to point out how difficult this sort of situation can be for both parties -- how life-and-personality- changing a serious long-term illness can be, through nobody's fault. It struck me that some posts didn't acknowledge the compassion that might be called for in thinking about both people in such a situation. Warmly, Rosemary
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60+ women
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: 60+ women
Trying to treat someone who doesn't want to be there, yuk... That's
why, with both my husband and my friend's, it worked better for the
wife to report and describe *for* the husband. Frankly, she and I are
better at both describing and "analyzing" them than they are at
describing or analyzing themselves!
Shannon
why, with both my husband and my friend's, it worked better for the
wife to report and describe *for* the husband. Frankly, she and I are
better at both describing and "analyzing" them than they are at
describing or analyzing themselves!
Shannon
Re: 60+ women
Dear Shannon,
Oh yeah - so how did you get the Rx down your husband. Basically when mine complains of something I say "Do you want a Rx".
He always replies "No" and I always retort "Suffer then"!!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Oh yeah - so how did you get the Rx down your husband. Basically when mine complains of something I say "Do you want a Rx".
He always replies "No" and I always retort "Suffer then"!!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: 60+ women
) Mine is not philosophically averse, he's just... er, let's say "stoic". Now and then something comes up where he'll actually trouble
himself to open his mouth for me. A couple of times I just figured I'd
save myself the trouble, and put a pellet into the water I put out for
his morning vitamins. (He'll take those if there aren't too many, and
he isn't in too much of a rush, and there aren't any of the
funny-looking oil-based ones that make him burp 'cause he never can
remember to take them *before* breakfast--if he bothers to eat that.
Sigh...)
Shannon
Re: 60+ women
Jean, your memory amazes me. Links 1996 did have a series of Cochlearia cases, and here is what Scholten had to say about the remedy [from my notes]:
SCHOLTEN: (re Cochlearia officinalis): The picture that emerges is of a woman who has to take care of her sick, difficult, nagging husband. The first characteristic is a SENSE OF DUTY, just like the Kaliums have. They have the feeling that it is their duty to take on this task of caring. They have pledged to stand by their partner in sickness and in health. So they can't evade this responsibility.
The second characteristic is the fact that they really don't want to do it, they don't feel like taking care of a nagging old man. In this respect they are different from the Kaliums, who feel it is their duty, so they simply do it. It looks a bit like Cimicifuga in the sense of feeling bound and restricted in their relationships. Cochlearia often has dreams of being bound too, of being stuck and not being able to get out. But in Cimicifuga the sensation of being restricted is caused by social relations, they feel encaged by their family, neighbors, etc. In Cochlearia it is their own sense of duty that is restricting them. They often feel angry and dissatisfied about their task. But they DON'T EXPRESS THEIR ANGER, they suffer in silence. Here we find a likeness with the Magnesiums: there is anger, but they are not allowed to express it. The liver complaints and the aggravation at 7 AM is also similar to the Magnesiums. The difference is that the Magnesiums don't express their anger out of fear of loosing someone, while Cochlearia feels that their duty forbids them to make a fuss or get angry. And so they develop a kind of BITTERNESS, they feel disappointed in life. In this respect they look like the Ammoniums, particularly Ammonium sulphuricum, because the disappointment and bitterness are linked to the partner. The difference seems to be that Cochlearia has the feeling that he has to care for, while this is not a main factor in the Ammoniums. The sour expression can clearly be seen on their face, there is little joy left.
The DD with Cocculus needs to be made too, because of the element of caring for others. But Cocculus does this more lovingly and based on a feeling of love, while Cochlearia does it reluctantly and with bitterness. This is partly because the partner is rather grumpy when ill. The patient is often awkward, demanding, aggressive, demented, helpless or oversexed. This makes their task of looking after their patient even less attractive, the patient is extremely ungrateful.
Cochlearia is SENSITIVE TO CRITICISM, particularly with respect to their task of looking after husband and children. They'll try and prevent the outside world from getting to know that it isn't all as rosy inside the family as it looks. This reminds us of the Calciums, especially Calcium sulphuricum. But in Calc-s the sensitivity to criticism is the main theme, while in Cochlearia it is only part of the picture.
Rochelle, I hope this helps, even though it wasn't quite what you requested. You might take a look at others in the Brassicaceae family, too.
Peace,
Dale
SCHOLTEN: (re Cochlearia officinalis): The picture that emerges is of a woman who has to take care of her sick, difficult, nagging husband. The first characteristic is a SENSE OF DUTY, just like the Kaliums have. They have the feeling that it is their duty to take on this task of caring. They have pledged to stand by their partner in sickness and in health. So they can't evade this responsibility.
The second characteristic is the fact that they really don't want to do it, they don't feel like taking care of a nagging old man. In this respect they are different from the Kaliums, who feel it is their duty, so they simply do it. It looks a bit like Cimicifuga in the sense of feeling bound and restricted in their relationships. Cochlearia often has dreams of being bound too, of being stuck and not being able to get out. But in Cimicifuga the sensation of being restricted is caused by social relations, they feel encaged by their family, neighbors, etc. In Cochlearia it is their own sense of duty that is restricting them. They often feel angry and dissatisfied about their task. But they DON'T EXPRESS THEIR ANGER, they suffer in silence. Here we find a likeness with the Magnesiums: there is anger, but they are not allowed to express it. The liver complaints and the aggravation at 7 AM is also similar to the Magnesiums. The difference is that the Magnesiums don't express their anger out of fear of loosing someone, while Cochlearia feels that their duty forbids them to make a fuss or get angry. And so they develop a kind of BITTERNESS, they feel disappointed in life. In this respect they look like the Ammoniums, particularly Ammonium sulphuricum, because the disappointment and bitterness are linked to the partner. The difference seems to be that Cochlearia has the feeling that he has to care for, while this is not a main factor in the Ammoniums. The sour expression can clearly be seen on their face, there is little joy left.
The DD with Cocculus needs to be made too, because of the element of caring for others. But Cocculus does this more lovingly and based on a feeling of love, while Cochlearia does it reluctantly and with bitterness. This is partly because the partner is rather grumpy when ill. The patient is often awkward, demanding, aggressive, demented, helpless or oversexed. This makes their task of looking after their patient even less attractive, the patient is extremely ungrateful.
Cochlearia is SENSITIVE TO CRITICISM, particularly with respect to their task of looking after husband and children. They'll try and prevent the outside world from getting to know that it isn't all as rosy inside the family as it looks. This reminds us of the Calciums, especially Calcium sulphuricum. But in Calc-s the sensitivity to criticism is the main theme, while in Cochlearia it is only part of the picture.
Rochelle, I hope this helps, even though it wasn't quite what you requested. You might take a look at others in the Brassicaceae family, too.
Peace,
Dale
Re: 60+ women
Dale - thanks for those notes. I will put them with the Rx in Isis as the only MM I have is the Links Article.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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Pauline Ashford
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Re: 60+ women
HI Rochelle – is it possible to post the links article on Cochlearia?? I would love to have a read of it. Regards Pauline